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6/4/2015 6:25:19 PM EDT
I just built a 2m J Pole and I cannot get the SWR's below 3:1.  Any suggestions?

for 147mhz
Long arm - 57.528"
Short arm - 19.094"
Spacing - 1.795"
Feed point - 1.877"
Stub below J - 24"
6/4/2015 6:46:30 PM EDT
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How did you do the feed point? I have seen some that are slideable and make tuning a breeze. Also what are you using to check SWR?
6/4/2015 6:53:51 PM EDT
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How are you checking SWRs, antenna analyzer or other?  If an analyzer, is there not a dip anywhere?
6/4/2015 7:28:34 PM EDT
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Using an analyzer, lowest SWR is at 130 MHz. I am going to redo the feed point using clamps so I can move them up and down
6/4/2015 7:31:54 PM EDT
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If the center is at 130, the main stub sounds tall
6/4/2015 7:41:46 PM EDT
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That's what was coming to mind. I'll chop off little by little and see what happens.mi got enough pipe to build another if I want

Making it for 147mhz cuz that the repeater I use this radio with 99.999% of the time. 147.060 so Imam trying to get it good on 147.5-147.6. The radio will rarely be moved from that freq
6/4/2015 9:41:38 PM EDT
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1/4 wave ground plane is a whole lot easier.
6/4/2015 9:45:05 PM EDT
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I know lol, I just wanted to see if I could build a j-pole
6/5/2015 9:03:49 AM EDT
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For reference, my J-pole has the long arm at 60-3/8", the short arm at 21", the spacing at 2-1/4", and the coax connection at 3-7/8".

The material is 1/2" Schedule 40 hard copper tubing with sweat fittings and all dimensions are measured centerline-to-centerline.

The SWR is 1:1.2 @ 144 MHz and 1:1.3 @ 148 MHz. It took a lot of fiddling to get it there, but I wanted to see just how flat I could get it. I kind of cheated by using end caps on the two arms and worked them up and down until the match was achieved. The coax was held in place by  copper pipe straps. Everything was finally soldered together after I was satisfied.
6/5/2015 9:55:09 AM EDT
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One of these days I should test my J-poles other than if they get out.
One is spray painted copper and the other is the Dual-band Arrow two piece J-pole.

6/5/2015 10:58:44 AM EDT
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 Yes - and has a bit higher gain 99% of the time as well as a cleaner radiation pattern!


(Curse The Devil that unleashed antenna designs with common mode coax currents upon the poor unsuspecting ham community!!!)

6/5/2015 11:26:52 AM EDT
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You say this so often I went and did a little research and interestingly, it appears to be pretty simple to tune these for 75 Ohms.

I use 75 Ohm hardline cable to my 2m antenna, so I will definitely be making a 1/4 wave and checking it's performance vs the j-pole.
6/5/2015 12:31:23 PM EDT
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I don't know how narrow banded the J-poles are but it might make a difference to cut the radiating element for the transmit freq. Granted on 2-meters that's only 600kc difference but it might change things.
6/5/2015 7:36:48 PM EDT
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Another DIY base antenna with some potential for gain is the W7LPN vertical collinear.  I built a 15' version a while back, about $25 for parts including the ferrites for the feedline choke.  You can make them from various alternative materials copper tube, hardware cloth, pvc & aluminum foil etc   Can make for a fun project..

Nick
6/6/2015 8:49:56 PM EDT
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All done but the Hakko tip took a dump and won't hold solder...so defrayed til tomorrow at least.

Almost had the 75 Ohm cable done and kaput.