Posted: 3/5/2015 2:08:54 PM EDT
| You'll say it isn't a stoopid question because i asked but i can't find it anywhere else. When looking at the arrl band plan i find it difficult to sort out the various licence classes. I mean, were advanced And extra combined or was advanced split between extra And general? And i asked myself why they are all still on there to no avail. So why haven't they revised it yet, which classes were smooshed together and does anyone know somewhere i can find a revised one? I just don't want to accidentally trample on extra space by accident before i earn those privileges. (Which im going to shoot for hopefully in a month or so at the next hamfest) |
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I like this one better than the ARRL handout. http://www.w9dup.org/images/icom_band_plan_1.png Yep, I got this printed out and laminated High Res link: http://www.icomamerica.com/en/amateur/amateurtools/2013_BandPlan.pdf |
Okay, I like that Icom band plan better myself. But where do the Advanced privileges come into play? I know you can't get an advanced license anymore. So, did Advanced privileges go to general, extra or get divided up between the two? Or am I just reading into it too much and the General and extra portions that are listed are correct and I should just ignore the advanced listings? And are people that still have advanced and novice licenses just stuck until they upgrade yet still held to their privileges?... Does anyone else see where this could be confusing for someone just starting out?! 
BTW... I WILL be printing and laminating myself a copy of the Icom one... it's spiffy and easier to understand! |
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Okay, I like that Icom band plan better myself. But where do the Advanced privileges come into play? I know you can't get an advanced license anymore. So, did Advanced privileges go to general, extra or get divided up between the two? Or am I just reading into it too much and the General and extra portions that are listed are correct and I should just ignore the advanced listings? And are people that still have advanced and novice licenses just stuck until they upgrade yet still held to their privileges?... Does anyone else see where this could be confusing for someone just starting out?!
BTW... I WILL be printing and laminating myself a copy of the Icom one... it's spiffy and easier to understand! The Advanced and Novice class license holders have the same privilages as they always had. I doubt that there are very many novices that are active on the air. I know at least two people who are novices. One is the wife of a ham friend of mine. I am guessing that she got licensed because her husband talked her into it even though she never really had any interest in ham radio. I am also guessing that he keeps getting it renewed even though she isn't on the air. The other guy I know is sort of the same story. His dad was very active in ham radio and talked his son into getting licensed as a father/son thing. The son was never active on the air and I don't think he ever had any real interest in ham radio, and his dad kept getting his license renewed. There are advanced class people that are active however. One of my best friends is an advanced and he doesn't want to upgrade because he sees it as something unusual to be an advanced class license holder. I also knew a guy who was an advanced, and he wouldn't take the extra from a volunteer examiner who didn't have the knowledge or experience in ham radio that he did. This all goes back to the incentive licensing thing I have tried to discuss previously. He held the highest class license available at one time. The FCC changed the license classes and he lost privilages that he previously had. It pissed him off and he never upgraded. He considered it after a few years but then the volunteer examiner thing came along and he refused to take part. FWIW: he was a super nice guy (now SK) and was one of the best known hams around here. He single handedly had by far the best repeater around here and paid for it all out of his own pocket, and did all the work on it himself. He didn't look down on newly licensed hams or any of the stereotype shit I often see posted on here. He just felt that the FCC did things that he did not like and chose not to go along with it. Like the Novice Class, the FCC discontinued issuing new Advanced Class operator licenses on April 15, 2000. But those amateurs who held that license class prior to that date may still renew or modify (that is, change their address, station call sign or name) their Advanced Class license indefinitely. The privileges of an Advanced Operator Class license includes 275 kHz of additional spectrum in the 80, 40, 20 and 15 meter high frequency bands Novice class operators are restricted to a maximum of 200 Watts PEP on HF Bands. All operators are required however, to use the minimum amount neccessary to maintain effective communications. 80 Meters: 3.525-3.600 MHz: CW Only. 40 Meters: 7.025-7.125 MHz : CW only. 15 Meters: 21.025-21.200 MHz: CW Only. 10 Meters: 28.000-28.300 MHz: CW, RTTY/Data -- Maximum power 200 Watts PEP. 28.300-28.500 MHz: CW, Phone -- Maximum power 200 Watts PEP. |
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People who held an Advanced class ticket when the changes happened can retain that license and privileges. They still have exist, they just won't issue any more Advanced licenses. I stayed an advanced for a few years after the change. Okay! I think for some reason that made sense and it clicked. So the General class didn't GAIN anything from the change, they just took out the license privileges in between. For some reason my dumbass kept looking at it like there was missing bandwidth somewhere I couldn't find! I was seeing it as the advanced held turf that extra didn't. That's why I was asking what happened to the Advanced frequency privileges! ...That was the worst kind of "open-says-me" moment ever... (It took me many years...into my teens... to realize it was "open says me" instead of "open sesame") 
Thanks guys! That's why I asked the pros! EDIT: Not knowing the licenses before the change led me to see the advanced class as being superior to the extra instead of the other way around. |
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I started out in ham radio as a novice.
The novices have gained considerable frequency spectrum today from what I had back when I was a novice. And yes, the extra was the top class (over the advanced). But if you go back even further, there was at one time, a Class A license. FWIW: I have been a novice, a general, an advanced, and an extra. I was never a technician. Back when I upgraded from novice, the technician and general theory test were exactly the same. The difference was whether or not you passed the 13 wpm code test. If you did, you got a general. If you didn't, you were a tech. Of course all that is totally different today, but as I have said many times, I get a kick out of the history of ham radio. |
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Back when I upgraded from novice, the technician and general theory test were exactly the same. The difference was whether or not you passed the 13 wpm code test. If you did, you got a general. If you didn't, you were a tech. Of course all that is totally different today, but as I have said many times, I get a kick out of the history of ham radio. Since Tech and General tests were the same back then, only the code was different, and that now the code requirement has been eliminated, Tech licensees from back then may upgrade to General with no additional testing. It's just a matter of submitting some paperwork. I've done this with W5YI for a few hams. |
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GREAT!!! Thanks! |
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Since Tech and General tests were the same back then, only the code was different, and that now the code requirement has been eliminated, Tech licensees from back then may upgrade to General with no additional testing. It's just a matter of submitting some paperwork. I've done this with W5YI for a few hams. Quoted:
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Back when I upgraded from novice, the technician and general theory test were exactly the same. The difference was whether or not you passed the 13 wpm code test. If you did, you got a general. If you didn't, you were a tech. Of course all that is totally different today, but as I have said many times, I get a kick out of the history of ham radio. Since Tech and General tests were the same back then, only the code was different, and that now the code requirement has been eliminated, Tech licensees from back then may upgrade to General with no additional testing. It's just a matter of submitting some paperwork. I've done this with W5YI for a few hams. Actually the Technician was 5 wpm code and Part A of the General test to become a General you had to take Part B and a code test for 13wpm |
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Used to be tech ( vhf and above ) tech plus ( 5wmpCW) general (13wpm CW) advanced extra ( 20wmp CW) novice was there too, but IIRC, it required 5wpm, and nobody was going for novice I took my tech-plus in 1993 ( technician exam, plus 5wpm CW test) this gave me 10m SSB and some HF CW ( was issued a 1x3 call ) then passed my General, but failed the 13wpm CW test went home studied the Advanced, and forced myself to call CQ on 40m came back and passed the advanced and 13wpm CW test ( was issued a 2x2 call ) stayed advanced for many years |
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That IS an easier one to read at a glance. Thanks! |
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We just printed off a dozen of these. Found out that matte photo paper is much better than card stock. They are dry, in a big manila, off to be laminated in the morning. The photo paper, all was sharper, brighter, less "fuzzy". In comparison the sample printed on card stock looked slightly out of focus, which is the only way I can describe it. We'll put one by each HF rig in the club station, one with each of my and others' portable kits, and a few for general use on the tables at special event stations. Again, thanks, Rich! |
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Interesting chart. The problem I see is that it sort of mixes together the FCC mode allocations and the ARRL "band plan" (i.e. areas where certain modes are generally used vs. the "hard" FCC rules). But the band plan information is useful and (for some reason) not contained on the ARRL chart. |
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Done! Printed some of the Kenwood-W5YI bandplans on matte photo paper and
had them laminated. Buddy Jim just dropped them off. 
The seemingly bad focus is due to the camera and reflections off the glossy lamination material. I had problems like that at a museum. I had a chance to take photos of a WWII German Enigma Machine (encryption) and a "biscuit tin radio" (tiny radio tcvr used by spies) and they look out of focus, too. Anything behind glass was bad, anything taken straight on, no glass, was sharp and in focus. Same thing here. Just take my word for it, these are sharp and look great. |
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We just printed off a dozen of these. Found out that matte photo paper is much better than card stock. They are dry, in a big manila, off to be laminated in the morning. The photo paper, all was sharper, brighter, less "fuzzy". In comparison the sample printed on card stock looked slightly out of focus, which is the only way I can describe it. We'll put one by each HF rig in the club station, one with each of my and others' portable kits, and a few for general use on the tables at special event stations. Again, thanks, Rich! Quoted:
We just printed off a dozen of these. Found out that matte photo paper is much better than card stock. They are dry, in a big manila, off to be laminated in the morning. The photo paper, all was sharper, brighter, less "fuzzy". In comparison the sample printed on card stock looked slightly out of focus, which is the only way I can describe it. We'll put one by each HF rig in the club station, one with each of my and others' portable kits, and a few for general use on the tables at special event stations. Again, thanks, Rich! No problem. I need to make me some more of these just to have around Thanks for adding your process, the Matte photo paper is a genius idea |