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11/2/2013 6:46:20 PM EDT
How do you get the spacing right in CW?  Is there a speed adjustment that helps with this?  I use DM780 to practice CW, and I follow a QSO template to help keep me on track, but it looks like Hell when the words all run together.  

11/2/2013 7:11:49 PM EDT
[#1]
I really need to start practicing with some type of code reader, to see if my spacing is correct, also.

I suspect you already know this, but just in case:

One dah is equal to three dits
The space between parts of the letter is equal to one dit
The space between two letters is equal to three dits
The space between two words is equal to seven dits.

It's really just up to the operator to get a feel for the spacing.  I practice my sending by putting just a "little extra delay" between words, to ensure I'm not running them together.  And hopefully,  I'll develop a better feel for the spacing simply through practice.

11/2/2013 8:05:52 PM EDT
[#2]
not sure what your doing here ?

Is that you sending and DM-780 decoding it ? ? ? ?


If you're sending with one rig and decoding with another, I'd say it looks pretty dammed good.

I'm guessing DM-780 can't figure out the spacing because, unlike digital modes, it's not getting a "space bar" type signal




Playing CW with DM-780,... you should go into the waterfall options and select 800hz as your center frequency  ( instead of 1000 or 1500)

then click on a received frequency in the waterfall, and then click the green square

this will ( shift your VFO ) zero-beat the received signal and allow you to narrow your bandpass so you only hear him.
11/2/2013 8:19:59 PM EDT
[#3]
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Is that you sending and DM-780 decoding it ? ? ? ?
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Yeah, that's pretty much it.  Just using one radio for this.  I have the break-in turned OFF on the radio, and DM780 decodes whatever I pound out on the paddles, without actually TXing.  I click on 600Hz on the waterfall to match the offset.  Pretty handy for practice.  
11/3/2013 3:52:12 AM EDT
[#4]
It's decoding the letters, so that's a good start. The rest is in your timing. However if you're sending Farnsworth style, it will trip up most decoders. The best way to practice is to use machine-sent code, either from a trainer or downloadable audio files from ARRL and try to make your sending sound as much like it as possible.

Search around the SKCC operating frequencies for contacts. If you don't hear anybody, give a call. Some members keep their receiver set to them when they're doing other things. HINT: After you call, give a few minutes for whoever might be monitoring to unplug the soldering iron or reach a stopping point in their bookkeeping so they can reply. 7.050, 7.144, and 7.120 MHz are especially popular frequencies.
11/3/2013 5:13:39 AM EDT
[#5]

Hi BD, I don't know if it is anything you can do for the spacing on the computer. It won't advance the spacing when you pause between words or characters. i.e. If you wait the computer will still put one character right after another. I suppose you could hit the space bar between words but that seems like a lot of trouble.
73,
Rob
11/3/2013 6:55:23 AM EDT
[#6]
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I really need to start practicing with some type of code reader, to see if my spacing is correct, also.

I suspect you already know this, but just in case:

One dah is equal to three dits
The space between parts of the letter is equal to one dit
The space between two letters is equal to three dits
The space between two words is equal to seven dits.

It's really just up to the operator to get a feel for the spacing.  I practice my sending by putting just a "little extra delay" between words, to ensure I'm not running them together.  And hopefully,  I'll develop a better feel for the spacing simply through practice.

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11/3/2013 7:11:09 AM EDT
[#7]
I just tried to do this on my setup           ( win-7, dm780=5.24.0.28, TS-590, KENT Iambic )

I can't seem to get DM-780 to decode my sending.



I'm still tweaking a fresh new Windows-7 install

Are you sending on a different radio than the one tied to DM-780 ????




( I can recieve/decode CW stations,  I can send macros, but 780 doesnt decode my paddle )

11/3/2013 7:54:30 AM EDT
[#8]
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I just tried to do this on my setup           ( win-7, dm780=5.24.0.28, TS-590, KENT Iambic )

I can't seem to get DM-780 to decode my sending.



I'm still tweaking a fresh new Windows-7 install

Are you sending on a different radio than the one tied to DM-780 ????




( I can recieve/decode CW stations,  I can send macros, but 780 doesnt decode my paddle )
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I'm just using the radio that's connected with DM780.  You have to click on 600Hz (your offset) on the waterfall to decode what you're sending.

11/3/2013 9:05:55 AM EDT
[#9]
Yeah....I'm all setup the same,  but DM-780 doesn't decode my sending

must be a setting somewhere....I need more coffee


too many margarita's last night        
11/3/2013 3:10:08 PM EDT
[#10]
I use the IZ2UUF ap on my droid phone.    Put it anywhere near the radio, find your stream on the waterfall and it does a good job of decoding.  Also handy for mobile in case someone is going faster than you can head copy.

I'm headed downstairs to see if I can get 780 to decode my own sending.

ETA:   I can't get it to either.   BD, how do you get the little green square at the top of the waterfall?   Mine is only yellow.
11/3/2013 4:07:28 PM EDT
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BD, how do you get the little green square at the top of the waterfall?   Mine is only yellow.
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On the Waterfall tab, check the Center Freq Marker box.