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3/28/2013 4:52:13 AM EDT
Sorry for the possible newb question but here it is. I've been playing with Echolink on my phone the last couple nights. Talked to a couple really cool guys in Northern Ireland. Do you guys consider these as DX contacts? Seems to me like its kinda "cheating" when all you have to do is click a button on your phone.  Just curious. Regardless it's been entertaining while I wait for my new antenna to show up.
3/28/2013 5:08:52 AM EDT
[#1]
Nope. I don't.

You're chatting with someone on the internet. They just happen to also be a ham. Totally different than firing up the HF rig and working DX.
3/28/2013 5:31:15 AM EDT
[#2]



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Nope. I don't.



You're chatting with someone on the internet. They just happen to also be a ham. Totally different than firing up the HF rig and working DX.


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no different than logging a Google hangout as a DX contact - even RF -> internet -> RF
3/28/2013 6:26:35 AM EDT
[#3]
Ok this is exactly my thinking too.
3/28/2013 6:34:59 AM EDT
[#4]
The contact has to receive the same RF you transmit in one hop.
Must be infrastructureless except for natural atmospheric conditions.

But then, do you consider Satellite comms DX? hmmm.
Moonbounce, since the moon is natural, I would consider DX.
3/28/2013 7:01:35 AM EDT
[#5]
Never used it, it's not really a real DX contact, but that doesn't mean it's not fun!
3/28/2013 7:17:45 AM EDT
[#6]
I have used it to check into my local VHF net while I was out of town or way out of range for RF. I wouldn't consider it a DX contact, but it is another hammer in the toolbox that I use when needed.


Redman
3/28/2013 12:17:26 PM EDT
[#7]
I consider it to be the same thing as using a VOIP telephone. I don't care for it. Ham radio is infrastructureless communication (other than repeaters) and echolink adds dependency on infrastructure outside of your control.
3/28/2013 12:20:36 PM EDT
[#8]
Quoted:
The contact has to receive the same RF you transmit in one hop.
Must be infrastructureless except for natural atmospheric conditions.

But then, do you consider Satellite comms DX? hmmm.
Moonbounce, since the moon is natural, I would consider DX.


Nope, I consider it working a repeater that happens to be in space Most satellites give you a footprint that will only let you reliably talk a few hundred miles at most anyway, so it's not really DX. Most contests that disallow repeater contacts will allow satellite contacts, but it's a special case.

Moonbounce is DX. Same with meteor scatter. Your RF is leaving your antenna and going to someone else's without being retransmitted by a third party.