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6/16/2012 6:25:11 PM EDT
I'm thinking of putting up a 45G.  Was out measuring today, and I've got a question about the guy lines.  Two of the three will meet the ground at a spot that's about 10' in elevation lower than the base of the tower, and the third about 3' higher (it's not a perfectly flat spot).  Is that a big deal?
 
6/16/2012 6:30:37 PM EDT
[#1]
I don't see how it could be a problem, but perhaps someone who really knows what he is talking about will jump in here.
6/16/2012 8:26:23 PM EDT
[#2]
I believe the angle that the lines leave the tower is the important part.  How long they are before they terminate doesn't matter, within reason.

I've often wondered about this myself since my yard isn't flat either, but my yard isn't really large so I decided on a self-supporting tower for when I can afford it.

I don't know the math to say exactly where to place the end of the guys on an uneven yard, but I'm sure it's simple geometry..  A flat yard would be way too easy.  
6/17/2012 10:02:16 AM EDT
[#3]
For guys that are at a lower elevation I have seen a pole or steel beam use to elevate the guy end point. The pole or beam is then back guyed.

Higher elevation I haven't seen a solution for this unless maybe a dug out type culvert to reach a lower point.
6/17/2012 10:56:51 AM EDT
[#4]
If there is a reason guyline end points need to be level with the tower base I can't see it.   BUT going into sloping soil, the anchors will probably need special consideration.
6/17/2012 12:28:50 PM EDT
[#5]
Quoted:
I believe the angle that the lines leave the tower is the important part.  How long they are before they terminate doesn't matter, within reason.



That would be correct, within reason.  The important issue with guys is that the magnitude of axial force - and angle -  be equal at the point of attachment at the tower.  What happens at the bottom of the guys is of lessor importance.  In extreme cases you can have more flex and cable weight to manage on a very long guy, in relation to the others.  but, 10 ft is not an issue and the angles being the same is the only critial factor.  Properly tensioned guys and the correct angles and 10 ft is no problem...
6/18/2012 3:56:13 PM EDT
[#6]
needs 3D mspaint.
6/18/2012 7:40:59 PM EDT
[#7]



Quoted:


needs 3D mspaint.


No artist here, but does this help?







 
6/20/2012 9:26:57 AM EDT
[#8]
The angles are important. The elevation is not.

Old lineman here and the elevation of the anchors never entered into the figuring. The angle was the only thing we ever considered.