Posted: 1/23/2011 6:50:53 PM EDT
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Is anyone interesting in one of these? I have read up on them, but wondered if anyone had an opinion. I know they are not for sale yet, but have they announced a price point?
I am open to any input. I liked the 746 pro and it seems that this is the "replacement" for it in their product line. I am not in the market for a "competition" rig, but would like to be able to dabble in most anything. If this is better served with multiple units and not an all in one please say so... I would be glad to listen. Scott |
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It's a very interesting radio. I detest that display color scheme though, it's incredibly annoying.
It's been "awaiting FCC approval" for about a year and a half now. Prior to Dayton 2010 the rumored price point was $3500 
Icom has a brand new "midrange" HF+6m radio (IC-7410) that looks almost identical to the 9100, I wonder if they didn't want to scare the market with the 9100 price. For $3500 the 9100 needs to be a competition-grade HF/VHF/UHF radio with more capability than what it has, really. Or else something more price-competitive while being easier to use, essentially a full size version of the ever popular "all in one" mobile radios like the IC7000, FT857 and IC706. What they should really do for a satellite/VHF/UHF radio is just make a radio "mainframe" that can accept various band modules, and just sell the band modules (6m, 4m, 2m, 1.25m, 70cm, 33cm, 23cm) separately. |
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thanks for the replies. i thought it looked like it might fill the hole in their line up that the 746 pro made when they d/c-ed it.
i know that when you get an all in one, it is usually a "jack of all trades, master of none" sort of deal. but you don't know if you don't ask. with them having it up for approval for that long and at that price point it makes me not interested in it anymore.... so the search goes on. i can't and don't want to afford a "competition" rig. but would like to be able to dabble in most if not all of what ham radio has to offer. i think my best course of action is to get two units and let each of them do what they do best. please chime in and add more if you like, i would like to hear what anyone else has to say.... Scott Edit: It looks like I was wrong and the 7410 is the unit supposed to replace the 746 pro. so i will give that a look when it comes out... thanks for the suggestion! |
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I am in the same situation.
I was looking at the 9100 and the Kenwood TS-2000 for a all in one radio. I have looked at buying separate rigs vs. an all in one. The cost is higher for separate rigs but the performance will be higher as well. It would be nice for a good all in one rig to save cost and desk space. |
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The cost is higher for separate rigs but the performance will be higher as well. Let me know where you're finding separate higher performance all-modes for 2m, 70cm, & 23cm. Quoted:
At that price point I'd consider a Flex-5000. Which is useless to the target market for the 9100 as it only does HF+6m. |
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At that price point I'd consider a Flex-5000. Which is useless to the target market for the 9100 as it only does HF+6m. Not if you get this option http://www.flexradio.com/Products.aspx?topic=F5K_upgrades#FLEX-VU5K |
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At that price point I'd consider a Flex-5000. Which is useless to the target market for the 9100 as it only does HF+6m. Not if you get this option http://www.flexradio.com/Products.aspx?topic=F5K_upgrades#FLEX-VU5K Which is $4743 for a similar configuration to the 9100, plus the cost/complexity of needing a computer just to operate it. And frankly I find computer screen operated radios to be a real PITA (for which there is an obvious solution). Quoted:
Looks like Icom is positioning themselves to begin selling these at Dayton. Did I get the 4K pricepoint correct? Damn.... 
This radio is better than their IC-7000...how again? Dual frequency receive and full duplex, 1.2GHz module, more TX power, full size controls and display. It really needs capability like the old FT736, of accepting 2 or 3 additional band modules. Then again with more modern design it's probably almost as cheap to just build in the extra bands instead of building the radio to use them as options. |
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Looks like Icom is positioning themselves to begin selling these at Dayton. Did I get the 4K pricepoint correct? Damn....
This radio is better than their IC-7000...how again? Above someone said the price point was/is being tested at $3500 which makes it too rich for my blood. No big deal, I am planning on starting small and moving up. I don't mind spending a few more bucks on something that is good quality, or for a few more bucks buy this one and you will not upgrade it soon... that sort of thing. S |
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Looks like Icom is positioning themselves to begin selling these at Dayton. Did I get the 4K pricepoint correct? Damn....
This radio is better than their IC-7000...how again? Above someone said the price point was/is being tested at $3500 which makes it too rich for my blood. No big deal, I am planning on starting small and moving up. I don't mind spending a few more bucks on something that is good quality, or for a few more bucks buy this one and you will not upgrade it soon... that sort of thing. The TS-2000 is ~$1500, the 9100 I can see going for a bit higher but certainly not over 2x the price. If they want more than $2k for it it needs to have some serious tricks up it's sleeve, or some mind boggling performance. If all you're looking for is a quality HF/HF+6 radio there are likely going to be far better values for the $. If you want the capability to do satellite, EME, or terrestrial weak signal VHF/UHF, then this is something to watch. Although, if it wasn't for the number of people who buy these kinds of radios just to have a "big", high power repeater kerchunker there probably wouldn't be enough of them sold to support the more serious users. It's too bad one can't just do a "build" with an amateur radio like you can with a custom AR. |
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Just checked Universal Radio's website....
This device was approved by the F.C.C. on 02/10/11.
so hopefully we'll get pricing sometime soon. Or else they'll wait to launch it at Dayton. The IC-7410 is listed though, at $2000 street price, so it's starting to look more like the rumored price might be not far off. |
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Quoted: Quoted: Looks like Icom is positioning themselves to begin selling these at Dayton. Did I get the 4K pricepoint correct? Damn.... This radio is better than their IC-7000...how again? Dual receivers. It can run full duplex for satellite mode operation. OK... So it's better than TWO IC-7000's how? That would still be just over 1/2 the price... I hope the $3500-4000 price point isn't true. -Slice ETA: I realize the technical difference, but the principle is bothersome. |
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I could possibly see it being in the 3500 range if it was fully loaded with the dstar board and the 1.2 module. They are seriously starting to price themselves out of the market again. One would think they would be trying to attract people (back) into the hobby. In the past the 1.2 modules have been ~$500 and the DStar probably $200 or so. If it had 75-100 watts on 220 in addition to the rest, they could probably get their $3k for it. That color scheme for the display still makes my eyes bleed though
Maybe when this comes out it will bring down the prices of the used 910 market. |
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Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: Looks like Icom is positioning themselves to begin selling these at Dayton. Did I get the 4K pricepoint correct? Damn.... This radio is better than their IC-7000...how again? Dual receivers. It can run full duplex for satellite mode operation. OK... So it's better than TWO IC-7000's how? That would still be just over 1/2 the price... I hope the $3500-4000 price point isn't true. -Slice ETA: I realize the technical difference, but the principle is bothersome. There it is. I have 2 IC-7000's. $2400.00 vs $3800.00 for this radio....and I have double redundancy if one of my IC-7000's take a dump....at that price I could have 3 7000's... 
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Looks like Icom is positioning themselves to begin selling these at Dayton. Did I get the 4K pricepoint correct? Damn....
This radio is better than their IC-7000...how again? Dual receivers. It can run full duplex for satellite mode operation. OK... So it's better than TWO IC-7000's how? That would still be just over 1/2 the price... I hope the $3500-4000 price point isn't true. -Slice ETA: I realize the technical difference, but the principle is bothersome. There it is. I have 2 IC-7000's. $2400.00 vs $3800.00 for this radio....and I have double redundancy if one of my IC-7000's take a dump....at that price I could have 3 7000's... I did read discussion on another board about how the $3500 figure was estimated as an MSRP based on the Japanese MSRP for the radio. By comparison, the Kenwood TS-2000 has a very similar Japanese MSRP, and TS-2000 street price in the US is about $1500. The 9100 will be higher than the 7410 street price of $2k.... so as a guess I'm thinking roughly $2500. It would be so much more appealing with an IC-7600ish display, or even an IC-7000ish display. The 7410 is priced too high for the market IMO, and it'll be a hard sell to convince most consumers that the 9100 is a thousand dollars better radio than a TS2000, or preferable to two IC-7000s for the majority of users. Probably shouldn't bring that up with Icom as their response might well be to raise the price of the 7000
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Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: Looks like Icom is positioning themselves to begin selling these at Dayton. Did I get the 4K pricepoint correct? Damn.... This radio is better than their IC-7000...how again? Dual receivers. It can run full duplex for satellite mode operation. OK... So it's better than TWO IC-7000's how? That would still be just over 1/2 the price... I hope the $3500-4000 price point isn't true. -Slice ETA: I realize the technical difference, but the principle is bothersome. There it is. I have 2 IC-7000's. $2400.00 vs $3800.00 for this radio....and I have double redundancy if one of my IC-7000's take a dump....at that price I could have 3 7000's... I did read discussion on another board about how the $3500 figure was estimated as an MSRP based on the Japanese MSRP for the radio. By comparison, the Kenwood TS-2000 has a very similar Japanese MSRP, and TS-2000 street price in the US is about $1500. The 9100 will be higher than the 7410 street price of $2k.... so as a guess I'm thinking roughly $2500. It would be so much more appealing with an IC-7600ish display, or even an IC-7000ish display. The 7410 is priced too high for the market IMO, and it'll be a hard sell to convince most consumers that the 9100 is a thousand dollars better radio than a TS2000, or preferable to two IC-7000s for the majority of users. Probably shouldn't bring that up with Icom as their response might well be to raise the price of the 7000 I see that HRO is now running a "SPECIAL" on the IC-9100 for $3,799.95 after rebates or promotions. Sorry... That's just too damn much! I sell high end electronic equipment made in Japan everyday. Prices in Japan and across the globe are higher than what the US Market will bare. When this radio comes down to $2,925.00 or less, then I will give it a serious look. And $650.00 TO ADD THE 1200mhz module?!!! FORGET IT! ETA: And for that money they could have done A LOT BETTER with the display. |
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I see that HRO is now running a "SPECIAL" on the IC-9100 for $3,799.95 after rebates or promotions. Sorry... That's just too damn much! I sell high end electronic equipment made in Japan everyday. Prices in Japan and across the globe are higher than what the US Market will bare. When this radio comes down to $2,925.00 or less, then I will give it a serious look. And $650.00 TO ADD THE 1200mhz module?!!! FORGET IT! ETA: And for that money they could have done A LOT BETTER with the display. Wow, am I guilty of "wishful thinking". This is fail on the level of ACR fail. I simply do not have enough face to palm to sufficiently express my opinion. I've contemplated how interesting it would be for Elecraft to take a stab at the VHF/UHF market, but considering their existing price/features on their HF products, thought there was no way it would be viable. I think they could compete with this though. |