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12/4/2009 7:04:25 AM EDT
Let me preface this with the disclaimer that this is in the HIGHLY PRELIMINARY stages. Actually, it was a thought that came to me and I'm foolish enough that I'm posting it here. I was talking to a friend this morning who is a Technician and I was remarking that he should've taken the General course I taught earlier this year. He said I should do a remote class. That got me thinking. There have been a lot of folks around here upgrading and I'm sure there are many that would like to upgrade but have found that most clubs host classes for getting your license but don't do much to help you upgrade after the fact.

So I'm contemplating trying to do an online course. At the moment I would see it being like a WebEx conference or something similar where I'd use the same presentations I'd use in the classroom but you'd be able to see it from your living room or wherever. There would need to be audio so you could ask questions and all. Whatever would happen in the classroom would need to happen in the virtual classroom. I have a Wacom tablet so that would greatly ease whiteboarding.

So the first order of business before I continue researching the viability of this is to see if there would be any interest. If not there's not much point in burning time looking for a way to make it happen. If you're interested leave me a post here and I'll keep a running tally. I'll let this run through Dec and I'll see where we're at near the end of the year. Using my regular classroom timing as an example I would foresee this being about a 10 or 11 week course. I actually used 13 but I incorporated hands-on exercises that may be difficult if not impossible in this format. If you have ideas or suggestions for doing this please feel free to post those as well.

I make no promises that this will happen. I have a full-time job, a family, I'm an ARES leader, etc. My plate is very full but I feel very strongly about helping people grown in this hobby. It's a huge time commitment for me but if there's interest I will do my best to bring it to fruition.
12/4/2009 8:10:09 AM EDT
[#1]
Very cool idea Jax.Thanks for even thinking about takinf on a taking on a task like this.



I am as far as I want to go so I would not be interested but hopefully there would be a good interest.



AWESOME!!!!!!!
12/4/2009 9:08:24 AM EDT
[#2]
Quoted:
My plate is very full but I feel very strongly about helping people grown in this hobby.

sign me up to help out in any way possible.

ar-jedi

12/4/2009 9:42:19 AM EDT
[#3]
I'd be very interested in something like that to help me jump to AG and maybe later AE.
12/4/2009 9:50:15 AM EDT
[#4]
I'd be interested since I'm seldom in one place long enough to find a local class that meets my schedule.
12/4/2009 10:12:46 AM EDT
[#5]
Any assistance I can provide, just ask.

AFM
12/4/2009 1:46:31 PM EDT
[#6]
Off to a good start!

jedi and AFM, most awesome. PM me your email addresses and I can send you the course outline. Then you can send me which topics you might feel most comfortable with assisting on.
12/4/2009 1:59:57 PM EDT
[#7]
Quoted:
jedi and AFM, most awesome. PM me your email addresses and I can send you the course outline. Then you can send me which topics you might feel most comfortable with assisting on.


i call dibs on the ORANGE BOX CONSTRUCTION section!  

ar-jedi

12/4/2009 3:02:06 PM EDT
[#8]
Quoted:
Quoted:
My plate is very full but I feel very strongly about helping people grown in this hobby.

sign me up to help out in any way possible.

ar-jedi


I'm in to help out..already Extra but like being an Elmer however I can.

12/4/2009 4:26:13 PM EDT
[#9]
Quoted:
Quoted:
jedi and AFM, most awesome. PM me your email addresses and I can send you the course outline. Then you can send me which topics you might feel most comfortable with assisting on.


i call dibs on the ORANGE BOX CONSTRUCTION section!  

ar-jedi





KB, msg rcvd/responded.
12/4/2009 5:00:48 PM EDT
[#10]
Quoted:
I'd be very interested in something like that to help me jump to AG and maybe later AE.


+1  I'm interested in this also.
12/4/2009 5:24:35 PM EDT
[#11]
I sit on my Tech class and test the 12th of Dec. I would be interested in an upgrade class as well.
12/5/2009 7:11:40 AM EDT
[#12]
Am I understanding correctly that this would be a Tech ––> Gen upgrade class? Any thoughts on a Gen ––> Extra class? (Depending on my work / school / family committments, I might be interested in a Gen ––> Extra class.)

How long (hours / minutes) would each class period last?

Kudos for being forward thinking and promoting amateur radio.
12/5/2009 12:38:20 PM EDT
[#13]
This would be Tech -> General. I've been asked to do a General -> Extra but that will be much further down the road. I haven't even begun the process of putting together a course outline for that.

The classroom sessions last about 2 hrs and sometimes we let out early. I really have to look at the sections on components and the circuit theory since I make use of breadboards, test equipment, etc to get people actually building circuits to see what's going and and hopefully reinforce the learning. Sometimes it's good for a safety lesson as our club pres demonstrated how a capacitor can zap you if you're not careful.

Right now I seem to have misplaced the USB drive with all my material. Pardon me while I scour the house.
12/5/2009 7:27:25 PM EDT
[#14]
I would totally take an online course. Sign me up.



Mike F
12/6/2009 12:54:15 PM EDT
[#15]
There are some really nice Podcast Upgrade classes out there.

I've written about some at Podclass Articles at "With Varying Frequency"

73

Steve
K9ZW
12/6/2009 1:17:36 PM EDT
[#16]
depending on whats involved and times i may be interested. with the wife working weird shifts at the EOC i never know what my evenings look like. day time wouldnt be a problem most days though.
12/7/2009 12:48:08 AM EDT
[#17]
I need to upgrade to Extra. Been sitting too long as general.

Having something like this would be great for me.

I have always enjoyed the class room like environment, and there is nothing like that around here locally.
12/7/2009 9:46:46 AM EDT
[#18]
So far so good.

I found a thumb drive with my presentations on it. Not the one I was looking for so I still want to find the other to make sure I have all of my latest changes but it's a start. To those that have offered to help I'll try to get the course outline to you today or tomorrow to see where your expertise lays.
12/7/2009 11:28:07 AM EDT
[#19]
so is this just going to be a class with the info involved or will there actually be an online test as well?
12/7/2009 3:34:43 PM EDT
[#20]
Class only. We can't do an online exam unfortunately.
12/7/2009 6:27:41 PM EDT
[#21]
Quoted:
Class only. We can't do an online exam unfortunately.


damn. out then. i cant make it to the next test because of time so i will have to wait 3 months to up to general.
12/8/2009 10:34:31 AM EDT
[#22]
Not so fast there! Figure a couple of months for the online course if we follow my classroom schedule. If we start in Jan that gives you a month to review until the exam. I'd probably see it starting mid to late Jan realistically.
12/8/2009 2:28:17 PM EDT
[#23]
I can't offer any assistance right now but I do want to commend you.  This is a fantastic idea.
12/8/2009 4:47:32 PM EDT
[#24]
Thanks.

I've emailed the outline to those that have expressed an interest in helping. Please let me know if you don't receive it.
12/9/2009 1:03:20 AM EDT
[#25]
Jax, even though I already have my general ticket I'd love to be a student in your class if it materializes. I studied for and passed both exams using the KB6NU study guides. While the guides gave me what I needed to pass the exams I'm sure that a lot of information was missing compared to a formal class with a full curriculum.

Since I'm a newbie I can't offer much in the way of teaching assistance, but I would be happy to pitch in to help pay for a WebEx account (or whatever else you might need)

I could, however, be a guest speaker on the following newbie topics of interest:

-CB lingo, and why it doesn't translate properly to ham radio
-Advanced kerchunking: How to make new friends on the local repeater
-Unkey before you sneeze
-Basic techniques on how not to bust into a RACES drill to ask for a signal check when testing your new antenna
-No, those HF beacons are not the emergency broadcast system
-It's not okay to use a phone patch to order a pizza
-Echolink: Does the radio just slow you down?
-Coax coax coax!
-How to obfuscate your ham radio budget from your spouse
-Tower basics: Screw the fascist HOA!
-"Why yes honey, we do need six deep-cycle batteries in the living room"

Please let me know if you need me
12/9/2009 9:52:46 AM EDT
[#26]
Damn, why the hell did you have to give me this list? Now I have to go back and re-do the course outline. I'm particularly interested in the obfuscation techniques and I'm sure others would like the advanced kerchunking.

Thanks for the $$ offer. WebEx isn't as expensive as I'd thought. Since I'm sure there are others that may have more experience maybe I should ask for input. I'm looking at MS SharedView and Dimdim at the moment. Both are free but limit us to 15 and 20 uses respectively. I think we can get more with Dimdim pro and it's only $20/mo as opposed to $50 for WebEx. If anyone has any input please feel free to share.

For those that are interested here is the proposed outline. May shift it around a little but at least this gives you an idea about the material we'll cover.

Day 1
   Lesson  1: Introduction
   Lesson  2: HF Procedures & Practices

Day 2
   Lesson  3: Rules & Regulations  
   Lesson  4: Math Review
   Hands-on Operation

Day 3
   Lesson  5: Basic Components
   Lesson  6: Components in Series & Parallel

Day 4
   Lesson  7: Peak-to-Peak, RMS Voltage
   Lesson  8: Transformers & Impedance
   Lesson  9: Reactance & Resonance

Day 5
   Lesson 10: Semiconductors, ICs, and Digital
   Lesson 11: Power Supplies, Batteries, Connectors, & Test Equipment  
   Lesson 12: Radio Signals

Day 6
   Lesson 13: Radio Equipment  
   Lesson 14: Antennas

Day 7      
   Lesson 15: Propagation
   Hands-on Operation  

Day 8  
   Lesson 16: Electrical & RF Safety

Day 9
   Review
12/12/2009 7:11:35 AM EDT
[#27]



Quoted:


Thanks.



I've emailed the outline to those that have expressed an interest in helping. Please let me know if you don't receive it.


I have an extra license and would provide some assistance for this if you still need anybody else.