Posted: 11/23/2009 10:02:10 AM EDT
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Anyone know where I can find something similar to this for a couple of hundred bucks including peripherals like H/S, extended antenna, etc? I'm looking for a multi-tasking THHR.
ETA–– Yeah, I'm learning about radios. Had no idea what I was getting into. Probably just going to get those Motoral FRS's that operate on UHF repeater frequencies and have stand-alone lin-of-site 35 mile range. 5w, right? |
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Quoted: I guess I've never seen one for sale. I doubt you'll get one for that cheap.Anyone know where I can find something similar to this for a couple of hundred bucks including peripherals like H/S, extended antenna, etc? I'm looking for a multi-tasking THHR. |
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Your best bet to find one cheap is one of these places, but it's a long shot to find anything made by Harris for cheap.
Surplus Sales Fair Radio Also here for military whip antennas and various other stuff: Columbia Electronics |
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I doubt you'll see an actual 152 for sale because its most likely is a CCI item. I would look for the civilian law enforcement/medical market for something else that does UHF/VHC and APCO P25. And it costs a hell of a lot more that $200 More like 20,000 |
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Quoted: Probably just going to get those Motoral FRS's that operate on UHF repeater frequencies and have stand-alone lin-of-site 35 mile range. 5w, right?  NOT A CHANCE! The best I've EVER gotten between two portable radios was a measured and verified 7.2 miles between two full 5 watt, fully aligned and tuned Motorola HT600s (UHF) talking from one end of the Seven Mile Bridge to the other end of the bridge, at Marathon Key, Florida, with both myself and the other person standing out in the open and able to see each other through binoculars. True unrestricted line of sight communications, and at 7.2 miles measured, the transmissions were readable but just barely so. The only way you're going to get much better than that is from one mountaintop to another mountaintop. Now, if you're working THRU a good repeater, well located, a 35 mile end-to-end coverage distance is very possible. But NOT direct from one portable radio to another. No way. There are some amateur repeaters that have good coverage over 25 miles in every direction from the repeater location. 50 miles end to end is quite good. There are even a few such repeaters that offer around 100 miles end to end coverage, but those are few and far between. Also, you're in the ham forum. FRS is outside the ham band and should not be discussed here. Same for GMRS or any radio activities outside of the amateur bands. CJ |
| actually for FRS radios you wont get more than a mile or 2. the claimes 35 miles is on GMRS and you need a $85 license as does the other person unless then live in your house according to FCC rules. tech ticket will cost you between $0 and $15 depending on where you can find a test. |
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let me tell you. I like how you think. I too wish I could get a ham radio with similiar attributes. if the vx8r had a more robust battery, then maybe.
and let me tell you again from the military side of me, the 152 is the current top o' the line. period, the end. you'll most likely never ever have one in your hands without visiting an armed forces recruiter (something Ive never regretted). its the shizzle in radio. |
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let me tell you. I like how you think. I too wish I could get a ham radio with similiar attributes. if the vx8r had a more robust battery, then maybe. and let me tell you again from the military side of me, the 152 is the current top o' the line. period, the end. you'll most likely never ever have one in your hands without visiting an armed forces recruiter (something Ive never regretted). its the shizzle in radio. I concur –– the 152 is an amazingly capable radio. There is an export version of it, IIRC, but I'm sure it's still nearly as expensive as the CCI version. |
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let me tell you. I like how you think. I too wish I could get a ham radio with similiar attributes. if the vx8r had a more robust battery, then maybe. and let me tell you again from the military side of me, the 152 is the current top o' the line. period, the end. you'll most likely never ever have one in your hands without visiting an armed forces recruiter (something Ive never regretted). its the shizzle in radio. whats not robust enough about the 8R's battery? there is a 1800ma battery and you could always build a battery pack to suit your needs with a battery holder from radio shack and some good rechargeable batteries. it will take power from 4-14v(per the OM) so building a battery pack the sky is almost the limit. even with the 3AA battery pack you could buy a couple of THESE and run 11.1v and 2500ma's. you would need to confirm the batteries would fit(i have heard stories about them being a little longer than AA'a) but if they do your golden. |
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let me tell you. I like how you think. I too wish I could get a ham radio with similiar attributes. if the vx8r had a more robust battery, then maybe. and let me tell you again from the military side of me, the 152 is the current top o' the line. period, the end. you'll most likely never ever have one in your hands without visiting an armed forces recruiter (something Ive never regretted). its the shizzle in radio. I concur –– the 152 is an amazingly capable radio. There is an export version of it, IIRC, but I'm sure it's still nearly as expensive as the CCI version. If you're a government contractor with a security account you can purchase CCI items. We use PRC-117's for our comm suites at work. We buy the -103s, with the vehicle mount. It runs about $40K per unit. |
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let me tell you. I like how you think. I too wish I could get a ham radio with similiar attributes. if the vx8r had a more robust battery, then maybe. and let me tell you again from the military side of me, the 152 is the current top o' the line. period, the end. you'll most likely never ever have one in your hands without visiting an armed forces recruiter (something Ive never regretted). its the shizzle in radio. I concur –– the 152 is an amazingly capable radio. There is an export version of it, IIRC, but I'm sure it's still nearly as expensive as the CCI version. If you're a government contractor with a security account you can purchase CCI items. We use PRC-117's for our comm suites at work. We buy the -103s, with the vehicle mount. It runs about $40K per unit. Still running F models huh? |
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let me tell you. I like how you think. I too wish I could get a ham radio with similiar attributes. if the vx8r had a more robust battery, then maybe. and let me tell you again from the military side of me, the 152 is the current top o' the line. period, the end. you'll most likely never ever have one in your hands without visiting an armed forces recruiter (something Ive never regretted). its the shizzle in radio. I concur –– the 152 is an amazingly capable radio. There is an export version of it, IIRC, but I'm sure it's still nearly as expensive as the CCI version. If you're a government contractor with a security account you can purchase CCI items. We use PRC-117's for our comm suites at work. We buy the -103s, with the vehicle mount. It runs about $40K per unit. About 25 for the radio and 15 for the mount, IIRC. |
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let me tell you. I like how you think. I too wish I could get a ham radio with similiar attributes. if the vx8r had a more robust battery, then maybe. and let me tell you again from the military side of me, the 152 is the current top o' the line. period, the end. you'll most likely never ever have one in your hands without visiting an armed forces recruiter (something Ive never regretted). its the shizzle in radio. I concur –– the 152 is an amazingly capable radio. There is an export version of it, IIRC, but I'm sure it's still nearly as expensive as the CCI version. If you're a government contractor with a security account you can purchase CCI items. We use PRC-117's for our comm suites at work. We buy the -103s, with the vehicle mount. It runs about $40K per unit. Still running F models huh? Are you running the 117G? That's an amazing radio –– Harris really hit a home run with that one, in my opinion. |
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We are talking the hand held style Harris correct? If so man do I miss those. I installed my fair share while over in Kuwait. We outfitted all of our vehicles with them. Us commo guys used them for everything. The PRC-152 is Harris' new handheld radio, it's only been out a couple of years. The 117f is, from what I saw, the de-facto standard for the Army and others, and I'd imagine the G model will be replacing it as time passes –– the G model is very new as well. |
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Quoted: It's the de facto communications board spinoff from Arfcom Survival Forum –– just poorly named. We spoke out about the "Ham Forum" name when it was created a couple years ago and everybody told us to shut up and be happy we got a separate forum. But pretty much all radio discussion is welcome here. It's clear the OP didn't know about the bogus mfg range claims on FRS/GMRS radios so I'm glad he brought it up so we could fill him in.Quoted: you're in the ham forum. FRS is outside the ham band and should not be discussed here. Same for GMRS or any radio activities outside of the amateur bands. CJ Since when?  |
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Yeah, the range listed on FRS/GMRS radios is really getting out of hand. It seems like they just keep upping the numbers to the point where they are just completely ridiculous.
FRS/GMRS are really not a bad way to go for cheap, short distance comms especially when not everyone in the party is a ham. A few things to note: - FRS is limited to 1/2 watt, and cannot have a detachable antenna. - GMRS can use higher power, 5 to 50 watts, and have detachable antennas. FRS range is about 1 mile, GMRS can be several miles without using a repeater - either can be a bit more if you have perfect line of sight (like if you're talking to someone on a mountain). |