Posted: 9/5/2010 7:23:37 AM EDT
| Seems that if you are just going to quarter out an animal, you can get the four quarters and backstraps quickly without even bothering to gut it. Anyone do it this way ? |
| Very possible. Seen it done a couple of times. The hide was carefully peeled back and the cavity wasn't opened. Rear quarter meat cut from the bone, front quarters removed intact, along with the backstrap. Bag "O" Guts and Hide discarded. Waste of heart, liver, and those two little tender bits inside the cavity just ahead of the rear quarters. |
| This is how to do it, assuming regs don't require require you to remove entire animal. |
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That is what I was thinking about doing. Here we are just required to take eatable meat and the head. |
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How the hell you gonna carry that bitch back to camp if it's NOT dressed? I hike on average about a mile. I bring a steel triangle and 50ft rope. After the kill, i raise it, drain it, gut it, throw it over the shoulders and get to hiking. Try doing that with an 800 lb elk. |
| Why would you NOT get those guts out of there to at least get things cooling off as quickly as possible? Think of all the heat held by the innards of any mammal, get those out of there and get that cavity open, pour the blood out (I don't cut throats, usually the animal bleeds out internally anyways), and take care of the meat. |
| I only gut if its getting dark and I'll have to come back the next day to quarter and bone out. Skin down one side remove the shoulder and bone it remove the hind quarter and bone it remove the back strap then roll over and repeat. Took me a few elk to figure this out. Why remove the guts? Its a big messy job and there is nothing in there I want. |
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Why would you NOT get those guts out of there to at least get things cooling off as quickly as possible? Think of all the heat held by the innards of any mammal, get those out of there and get that cavity open, pour the blood out (I don't cut throats, usually the animal bleeds out internally anyways), and take care of the meat
Because the meat is off the animal right after its shot then peppered put in game bags and hung in a spruce tree until return. Plus, when your on the side of the mountain with a animal stuck between some trees it can be pretty hard to get the guts out of one. 
Like another said if its shot late in the evening then field dressing would be necessary to return the following day. I had to do a bear that way a few years ago. I opened him up and got sticks to keep him open as best as I could. |
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I gutted a deer a year ago for a friend, the first in years.
I go with the gutless technique like the video above. I rarely even use the gambrel anymore, I just do it all on the ground using the hide to protect the meat (again like the video). Be very careful about getting those tenderloins! |
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That's interesting how you got the tenderloins out. I wish there was a little more video on that. |
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Can you get at the tenderloins without gutting ? Yes. They are located just above the hips and run just under the spine up to the first rib. I have removed many pairs of tenders without gutting the deer or hog. You can also recover the heart without gutting, just don't cut the diaphragm. Once you do or see the gutless method, you will kick yourself for not doing it sooner. |
| I'll never gut an elk again unless I can winch the whole thing on a pickup. If I am quartering it anyway, I quarter first and when everything else is off I go in for the tenderloins. Don't miss out on the Elk tenderloins, those are the things dreams are made of, especially on a mountain camp grill. |
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I only gut if its getting dark and I'll have to come back the next day to quarter and bone out. Skin down one side remove the shoulder and bone it remove the hind quarter and bone it remove the back strap then roll over and repeat. Took me a few elk to figure this out. Why remove the guts? Its a big messy job and there is nothing in there I want. This. Bone, hide, and hoofs are heavy. The only thing I am carrying off the mountain is meat. Only caveat is don't forget the tenderloins |
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I did this with my cow elk this year. I skinned, quartered, trimmed (including reaching in and getting tenderloins at the last), and packed her out 1/2 mile in 5 trips by myself in 5 hours total. Not sure how I would have gotten her anywhere with gutting her. This is the second elk I have done this way, and will only do it this way from now on unless there are more than 2 people AND it is within winching/roping/dragging distance of a road.
Later, Marcial |
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Go to South Africa and you will be AMAZED. Many Ranches that are hunted have thier own slaughterhouse/processing facility. The hunter shoots say a wildebeest...the boys show up with the truck...after pictures, it's loaded up and taken to the facility. NO GUTTING.
Then again they use EVERYTHING minus the sttomach contents or the crap in the intestines. Even the intestines are used as sausage casing. Stomach cleaned and eaten, etc. As a Montana guy we have to keep evidence of sex on the carcass, so removing the 1/4's etc isn't really feasible here. FN in MT |
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It is pretty easy to just leave the testicles attached to one of the hind quarters. Quoted: Go to South Africa and you will be AMAZED. Many Ranches that are hunted have thier own slaughterhouse/processing facility. The hunter shoots say a wildebeest...the boys show up with the truck...after pictures, it's loaded up and taken to the facility. NO GUTTING. Then again they use EVERYTHING minus the sttomach contents or the crap in the intestines. Even the intestines are used as sausage casing. Stomach cleaned and eaten, etc. As a Montana guy we have to keep evidence of sex on the carcass, so removing the 1/4's etc isn't really feasible here. FN in MT |
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It is pretty easy to just leave the testicles attached to one of the hind quarters. What about a cow? I just put in for my first elk tag ever. I want a cow for the meat. If i harvest one, I plan on boning it out but have never used this method. I really don't know how to go about leaving evidence of sex while boning it out. |
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Quoted: I've only killed one cow and I didn't have to quarter it because i could almost drive to it. So I'm not sure, but I bet you could get creative in leaving some kind of female organ attached.Quoted: It is pretty easy to just leave the testicles attached to one of the hind quarters. What about a cow? I just put in for my first elk tag ever. I want a cow for the meat. If i harvest one, I plan on boning it out but have never used this method. I really don't know how to go about leaving evidence of sex while boning it out. |
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I've only killed one cow and I didn't have to quarter it because i could almost drive to it. So I'm not sure, but I bet you could get creative in leaving some kind of female organ attached.
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It is pretty easy to just leave the testicles attached to one of the hind quarters. What about a cow? I just put in for my first elk tag ever. I want a cow for the meat. If i harvest one, I plan on boning it out but have never used this method. I really don't know how to go about leaving evidence of sex while boning it out. Just leave a piece of skin attached to the rear quarter that has the vuvla opening attached to it, or the skin from the udder attached to it. Maybe carry a plastic bag that you can put the nasty part of the skin into and tie it on to the part of the skin thats attached to the leg still. |
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I've only killed one cow and I didn't have to quarter it because i could almost drive to it. So I'm not sure, but I bet you could get creative in leaving some kind of female organ attached.
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It is pretty easy to just leave the testicles attached to one of the hind quarters. What about a cow? I just put in for my first elk tag ever. I want a cow for the meat. If i harvest one, I plan on boning it out but have never used this method. I really don't know how to go about leaving evidence of sex while boning it out. Just leave a piece of skin attached to the rear quarter that has the vuvla opening attached to it, or the skin from the udder attached to it. Maybe carry a plastic bag that you can put the nasty part of the skin into and tie it on to the part of the skin thats attached to the leg still. I have only taken one cow but this is how I have done it really not that hard |