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Posted: 9/24/2019 12:46:18 PM EDT
[Last Edit: ColtRifle]
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Are you doing rigid foam on the outside? If so, you need to move the windows out to make up for the foam thickness. Also, look up proper window flashing. Depending on your siding, you may have leaks as it is now.
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Posted: 9/24/2019 8:52:10 PM EDT
[Last Edit: Kitties-with-Sigs]
[#2]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Davidrw5150:
The door, yeah, I did that one flat.... but the ridge is the other way. Fingers crossed. 
My main concern is the top roof beam that runs from front to back. Hoping that's not just a 2 X 4 because I'm afraid it wont' take your snow load. Maybe it will...others can chime in. Don't want the roof falling in on you, for certain. |
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Posted: 9/24/2019 11:30:29 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Kitties-with-Sigs: OP, you may eventually get some sag with that, but hopefully not this first winter. Fingers crossed.
My main concern is the top roof beam that runs from front to back. Hoping that's not just a 2 X 4 because I'm afraid it wont' take your snow load. Maybe it will...others can chime in. Don't want the roof falling in on you, for certain. |
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Posted: 9/25/2019 12:40:04 PM EDT
[#4]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Davidrw5150:
Ridge post is 3 2x6 upright, not flat. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Davidrw5150:
Originally Posted By johnh57: Ridge post bearing on the center of a 3 - 2x6 flatwise header? Typical header around here is 2 - 2x10s under the double top plate and we're only 30 psf snow. |
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Posted: 9/25/2019 1:59:27 PM EDT
[#5]
The up right supports are there laminated 2x 4’s, the ridge beam is three laminated 2x6’s.... the span is 9 ft on each of them.....
It should sustain for the time being. I hope!!! 😳 |
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Posted: 9/25/2019 2:09:03 PM EDT
[Last Edit: Davidrw5150]
[#6]
Well, after 16 days I can say that I am officially dried in!!
My “yurt” is weather proof.....although I still have a 20x 28 rain fly to put up this afternoon..... it has been a hard push the last 5 days or so and I am exhausted and rather beaten up...lol, knocking on 50 is sure a sobering feeling.....  Attached File Attached File Attached File Attached FileIt’s been a hell of a start to my journey and my next project will be the thermal mass rocket heater and getting the insulation up... However, the next couple days will be a little R&R. |
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Posted: 9/25/2019 2:17:23 PM EDT
[#7]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By ColtRifle:
Are you doing rigid foam on the outside? If so, you need to move the windows out to make up for the foam thickness. Also, look up proper window flashing. Depending on your siding, you may have leaks as it is now. |
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Posted: 9/25/2019 4:19:54 PM EDT
[#8]
What is your plan for the exterior where you currently have tyvek?
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Posted: 9/25/2019 7:26:34 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Davidrw5150: The windows are just roughed in.... I will be adjsting them, putting up the flashing and sealing them properly in a day or two... 
Enjoying your thread! |
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Posted: 9/25/2019 8:20:12 PM EDT
[#10]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By swampfox3:
What is your plan for the exterior where you currently have tyvek? |
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Posted: 9/25/2019 8:23:24 PM EDT
[#11]
Ok.... been another busy day.... since I got the tent up this morning, and........
 Attached File Attached File Attached File Attached FileI got the fly up!!! Now I am truly dried in and can start my insulating and finishing the doors and windows properly..... |
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Posted: 9/25/2019 8:28:35 PM EDT
[#12]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Davidrw5150:
The up right supports are there laminated 2x 4’s, the ridge beam is three laminated 2x6’s.... the span is 9 ft on each of them..... It should sustain for the time being. I hope!!! 😳 Hard to see that from the pics.
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Posted: 9/25/2019 8:30:27 PM EDT
[#13]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Davidrw5150:
Well, after 16 days I can say that I am officially dried in!! My “yurt” is weather proof.....although I still have a 20x 28 rain fly to put up this afternoon..... it has been a hard push the last 5 days or so and I am exhausted and rather beaten up...lol, knocking on 50 is sure a sobering feeling..... https://www.AR15.Com/media/mediaFiles/384426/F8E34ECC-E01B-4394-8E96-2D799F6A1BD4_jpeg-1102291.JPGhttps://www.AR15.Com/media/mediaFiles/384426/76C31997-BEE7-4900-8C48-68062BD2278E_jpeg-1102292.JPGhttps://www.AR15.Com/media/mediaFiles/384426/3E52FF07-4D43-41D4-A4CB-F30D28034E71_jpeg-1102293.JPGhttps://www.AR15.Com/media/mediaFiles/384426/645AFABF-A087-43CA-9358-7417D90CD7FE_jpeg-1102294.JPG It’s been a hell of a start to my journey and my next project will be the thermal mass rocket heater and getting the insulation up... However, the next couple days will be a little R&R. You are so smart to take some days off. You still have time before winter, and now if you get weather, you're okay. We made the mistake of going nonstop on our house when we bought it, and the result is, now it sits, still, with undone projects and we just don't wanna. We lost the energy because we took no time for ourselves. Good choices you are making. 
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Posted: 9/25/2019 9:01:55 PM EDT
[#14]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Kitties-with-Sigs: That's awesome! You are so smart to take some days off. You still have time before winter, and now if you get weather, you're okay. We made the mistake of going nonstop on our house when we bought it, and the result is, now it sits, still, with undone projects and we just don't wanna. We lost the energy because we took no time for ourselves. Good choices you are making. Today was the last day of warm weather..... we head into fall tomorrow and winter is expected anytime now.....lol! |
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Posted: 9/25/2019 9:37:26 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Davidrw5150:
You are so right! I pushed so hard the last two weeks that my hands are shredded and I ache all over. Now that it’s dried in I can work on insulation, finishing the doors and windows at a very reasonable pace. The next BIG project will be the thermal mass heater but it will probably take me longer to design it than it will to actually build it....... Today was the last day of warm weather..... we head into fall tomorrow and winter is expected anytime now.....lol! Do you think you can get it in before hard winter? |
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Posted: 9/26/2019 10:48:20 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Kitties-with-Sigs: Well...you need the heater done, then, right? Do you think you can get it in before hard winter? |
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Posted: 9/26/2019 11:09:13 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Davidrw5150: Before hard winter... Yes. Before this weekends expected freeze.... not a chance. Lol And do you have internet at your homestead after all? |
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Posted: 9/26/2019 11:25:50 PM EDT
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I don't know how much snow load that roof can handle but I'd keep an eye on it if we have a big snow winter.
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Posted: 9/27/2019 11:06:07 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Kitties-with-Sigs: Very interested in what you do with that. And do you have internet at your homestead after all? |
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Posted: 9/27/2019 11:10:32 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Talyn:
I don't know how much snow load that roof can handle but I'd keep an eye on it if we have a big snow winter. |
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Posted: 9/28/2019 10:29:29 AM EDT
[#21]
Sounds like you have at least a temp heat source, gonna get cold the next 24-48 hrs. This front coming through seems to have everyone in a tizzy.
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WA, USA
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Posted: 9/28/2019 10:46:04 AM EDT
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You have no plywood sheathing on the trusses, just open rafters? If so I think the snow load is going to be a problem..
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Posted: 9/28/2019 10:46:40 AM EDT
[#23]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By chase237:
Sounds like you have at least a temp heat source, gonna get cold the next 24-48 hrs. This front coming through seems to have everyone in a tizzy. |
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Posted: 9/28/2019 10:56:58 AM EDT
[#24]
You are going to need a snow plow.
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Posted: 9/28/2019 11:03:09 AM EDT
[#25]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By swampfox3:
What is your plan for the exterior where you currently have tyvek? 
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Posted: 9/28/2019 12:21:54 PM EDT
[#26]
Snowing hard here in the CDA area. Probably more where you are building. Water and heat, water and heat.
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Posted: 9/28/2019 3:35:08 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By JimmyAR:
You have no plywood sheathing on the trusses, just open rafters? If so I think the snow load is going to be a problem.. |
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Posted: 9/28/2019 10:41:50 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By NRA2:
Snowing hard here in the CDA area. Probably more where you are building. Water and heat, water and heat. A balmy 53 this morning down here, rained almost all day though 
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Posted: 9/29/2019 1:25:51 AM EDT
[Last Edit: pcsutton]
[#29]
Hey, OP, let us know how you're making out with the snowstorm, OK. We'd hate to think you got snowed in with only a kerosun heater for heat.
Oh, and be damned careful running that Kerosun without a bit of ventilation for the carbon monoxide. 
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Posted: 9/29/2019 9:59:33 AM EDT
[Last Edit: FrankSymptoms]
[#30]
So how's the weather throughout Mighty Idaho? It's clear here; I looked out at about 0330 and it was severe clear! No precip last night, going to be partially cloudy today.
Oh, and be damned careful running that Kerosun without a bit of ventilation for the carbon monoxide. But if you have a CO detector in your home, you'll be a HELL of a lot safer! I always had one in my home in Nuevo Mehico, in addition to the standard smoke detectors. CO detectors are cheap; hospitals are expensive. |
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Posted: 9/29/2019 10:35:47 AM EDT
[#31]
tag to see if OP packed a snow shovel.
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Posted: 9/29/2019 11:30:33 AM EDT
[#32]
24+ hours since OP has posted... Anyone have a snowplow?
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Posted: 9/29/2019 12:56:10 PM EDT
[#33]
I’m alive!!! Maybe 1/2” of wet snow.... 33’f this morning.... a little brisk this morning but nothing too bad, all things considered.
Thanks for all the concern.... CO is being carefully monitored .... Snow load will be manageable as I can simply tap the canvas on the inside and it slides off..... anything heavier and a long handle scrape will pull it right off. I’ve got 95% of the batting insulation done. Will get the blue board installed this week as well as begin construction the rocket mass heater. Water- I have collected almost 50 gallons in the last two days and my neighbor has given me free access to his well while I’m getting setup.....  Attached File Attached File Attached File |
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Posted: 9/29/2019 1:31:23 PM EDT
[#34]
You seem like a really handy guy and will make it. I always listened to the people that wintered in the area if I wasn't sure of what I was doing.
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Posted: 9/29/2019 1:57:27 PM EDT
[#35]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By NRA2:
You seem like a really handy guy and will make it. I always listened to the people that wintered in the area if I wasn't sure of what I was doing. There are very few DIY projects that I am afraid to tackle with the right information at hand and material at hand. |
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Posted: 9/29/2019 2:41:39 PM EDT
[#36]
Glad you're OK. Does anybody plow your road or do you need to snowmobile out to where you park?
Got yer shitter dug yet? You might want to make that happen before the ground freezes for the winter. Oh, and if you build a 2 holer, you can use a regular toilet seat on one hole and closed cell foam or styrofoam on the other. The styrofoam seat is warm the instant your butt hits it...the toilet seat not so much. |
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Posted: 9/29/2019 3:06:05 PM EDT
[#37]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By pcsutton:
Glad you're OK. Does anybody plow your road or do you need to snowmobile out to where you park? Got yer shitter dug yet? You might want to make that happen before the ground freezes for the winter. Oh, and if you build a 2 holer, you can use a regular toilet seat on one hole and closed cell foam or styrofoam on the other. The styrofoam seat is warm the instant your butt hits it...the toilet seat not so much. My shitter is a composting toilet (5 gallon bucket, toilet seat, and cedar shavings) in my bathroom Which will eventually get built in. I have all the materials to make it. |
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Posted: 9/29/2019 7:14:41 PM EDT
[Last Edit: pcsutton]
[#38]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Davidrw5150:
There are three other families on my road and they all plow, my main responsibility is my 100 y drive... I am planning on getting a small plow but my neighbor said he would handle it for me until I do. I am helping him frame up a barn in return for that and access to his well. My shitter is a composting toilet (5 gallon bucket, toilet seat, and cedar shavings) in my bathroom Which will eventually get built in. I have all the materials to make it. One tends to light the double mantle Coleman lantern and carry it out with you...even in the daylight. It'll warm that shithouse right up.
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Posted: 9/29/2019 9:57:00 PM EDT
[#39]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By pcsutton:
Hey, OP, let us know how you're making out with the snowstorm, OK. We'd hate to think you got snowed in with only a kerosun heater for heat. Oh, and be damned careful running that Kerosun without a bit of ventilation for the carbon monoxide.
https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/4019/FB_IMG_1569721576691_jpg-1106374.JPG if so, we are all in a boatload of trouble. 
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Posted: 9/29/2019 10:05:53 PM EDT
[#40]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Davidrw5150:
I’m alive!!! Maybe 1/2” of wet snow.... 33’f this morning.... a little brisk this morning but nothing too bad, all things considered. Thanks for all the concern.... CO is being carefully monitored .... Snow load will be manageable as I can simply tap the canvas on the inside and it slides off..... anything heavier and a long handle scrape will pull it right off. I’ve got 95% of the batting insulation done. Will get the blue board installed this week as well as begin construction the rocket mass heater. Water- I have collected almost 50 gallons in the last two days and my neighbor has given me free access to his well while I’m getting setup..... https://www.AR15.Com/media/mediaFiles/384426/457850FE-34A9-4BE1-95F6-6CED83285B47_jpeg-1106773.JPGhttps://www.AR15.Com/media/mediaFiles/384426/97C86FD3-2E3C-465F-B6E0-89E9101260DF_jpeg-1106774.JPGhttps://www.AR15.Com/media/mediaFiles/384426/3A77C7AB-4D5A-48D2-BF53-C97441212896_jpeg-1106775.JPG So proud of what you're doing. Good on you for already getting along so well with the neighbors! That's a major survival accomplishment, right there. |
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Posted: 9/30/2019 9:10:51 AM EDT
[#41]
What a grand adventure!
I only have one question.  Where's your four legged companion?
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USA
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Posted: 9/30/2019 9:38:03 AM EDT
[#42]
You need insulation on the ceiling/roof. Most of your heat loss will be there and with no insulation, you'll have a lot of heat loss.
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Posted: 9/30/2019 10:31:49 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By 223blackriflefan:
What a grand adventure! I only have one question. Where's your four legged companion? |
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Posted: 9/30/2019 10:35:44 AM EDT
[#44]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By ColtRifle:
You need insulation on the ceiling/roof. Most of your heat loss will be there and with no insulation, you'll have a lot of heat loss. At least that is the plan. If I am wrong, then I pop the lid and deck and insulate it😬 |
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Posted: 9/30/2019 7:44:57 PM EDT
[Last Edit: ColtRifle]
[#45]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Davidrw5150: This may sound counter intuitive..... but I’m sort of counting on that. I am building a rocket mass heater and it will ( if my calculations are even half right) the heat produced will run me out. The uninsulated roof will help regulate that and also it will keep any snow load manageable.... At least that is the plan. If I am wrong, then I pop the lid and deck and insulate it😬 I'd also be concerned with your roof and its watertightness. When you get snow it'll melt quickly. Hope it is waterproof. Not trying to run down your build. Just hate to see you suffer through the winter. |
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Posted: 10/1/2019 2:31:05 PM EDT
[#46]
With all the work and framing you did, why not go with a traditional roof and insulation? If it’s a temp place you could turn it into a guest house down the road then...
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Posted: 10/1/2019 4:15:58 PM EDT
[Last Edit: Davidrw5150]
[#47]
Quote HistoryWhy not insulate and then you won't need a big heater at all? Heat rises so, while wall insulation is good, roof/attic insulation is far more important. Doesn't make sense to me to decline to insulate and then have to build an oversize heater to compensate. It's always cheaper to keep heat in than to make it. I'd also be concerned with your roof and its watertightness. When you get snow it'll melt quickly. Hope it is waterproof. Not trying to run down your build. Just hate to see you suffer through the winter. Quote HistoryWhy not insulate and then you won't need a big heater at all? Heat rises so, while wall insulation is good, roof/attic insulation is far more important. Doesn't make sense to me to decline to insulate and then have to build an oversize heater to compensate. It's always cheaper to keep heat in than to make it. I'd also be concerned with your roof and its watertightness. When you get snow it'll melt quickly. Hope it is waterproof. Not trying to run down your build. Just hate to see you suffer through the winter. Originally Posted By cms81586:
With all the work and framing you did, why not go with a traditional roof and insulation? If it’s a temp place you could turn it into a guest house down the road then... |
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Posted: 10/2/2019 9:16:00 PM EDT
[Last Edit: TheOtherDave]
[#48]
Edit: nevermind, you are way further along than I figured you would be
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Posted: 10/3/2019 3:00:24 PM EDT
[#49]
Might be too late, but I'd put some plywood up on that roof ASAP. Wind, Rain and Snow will destroy the fly and that canvas will eventually leak.
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Posted: 10/3/2019 3:04:21 PM EDT
[#50]
Looks good OP.
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