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2/12/2015 4:52:58 PM EDT
I keep looking at all the fancy log cabin kits for sale and it's gotten to the point is drives me nuts. Does anyone just make a simple basic true to origin log cabin anymore?

Was looking at setting up a 24 x 42 log cabin for living in. Basically it'd be just one open space. Think Proenneke's Cabin on steroids. Fireplace and an outlet for a wood stove. Restroom in the back but everything else is open space.

For those in real estate or in lumber, how much you wager something like this would cost? overall. Was looking at setting up a full basement with it for storing things like wood to burn, etc for the winter.


I do not care about things like designs, or architecture or any of that hullabaloo. Just one big open room with the exception of the bathroom.


Curious as to what everyone has to say. Looking at the total turnkey price. 8 foot deep basement. No windows or any face crap.

ETA: oh yeah ten foot tall ceiling. That's it.



Asking here because I'm sick of people trying to sell me crap I really don't want. "Sir you just don't understand, when people come over for dinner, they'll think the world of you and have awe of you if you own this! It's the latest style!" Well guess what? FUCK STYLE AND NOBODY'S FUCKING COMING OVER FOR DINNER!




anyways. any input would be awesome.
2/12/2015 8:39:13 PM EDT
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Doesn't "full basement" kinda knock out the idea of "true to origin" for a log cabin"?

FWIW, last tri-axle of firewood logs I bought cost $800, IIRC. If you cherry-picked the logs out of that load, you'd probably have close to half on the logs for the frame. Could saw half of the remainder into shingles and some useable framing lumber if you had time and space to let it dry.

As you found out, the "log cabin" industry is not equipped to give you what you seek.
2/13/2015 6:06:03 AM EDT
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Doesn't "full basement" kinda knock out the idea of "true to origin" for a log cabin"?

FWIW, last tri-axle of firewood logs I bought cost $800, IIRC. If you cherry-picked the logs out of that load, you'd probably have close to half on the logs for the frame. Could saw half of the remainder into shingles and some useable framing lumber if you had time and space to let it dry.

As you found out, the "log cabin" industry is not equipped to give you what you seek.
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Well I wanted basement as more of a storage place. Store some fire wood, my workbench and put some workout equipment down there and keep the nicer stuff up top in the living area. As for the "log cabin" industry I've found them to be very overpriced but I have also found companies that are sources for the wood that they use for their so-called kits. I found that they simply buy the wood from the distribution companies, use CAD programs to create eccentric little houses, have the suppliers mill out the logs the way they want for the so-called "kit" they put it together just to make sure it actually works the way it should then jack the price up like a billion percent.

I figure if I find a nice mom and pop company to do the work after I order directly from the supplier(since it'll be a very simple cabin anyhow) I can save a SHIT-TON of money.

All in all, a log cabin should not cost much at all. I figure I'd spend the majority of the money on the basement structure and just have the cabin slid on top. Going over the numbers I was actually considering going out to 1500 square feet. the more space the better imo but not too much. I want to keep property tax nice and low.
2/13/2015 7:48:05 AM EDT
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I don't know if this helps



http://loghomesmn.com/

http://www.andersenloghomes.com/
2/13/2015 8:06:43 AM EDT
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are you looking to have a contractor build this?  if so, you probably just doubled the cost of the house by having someone else build it... now the real savings is when you do most of the work yourself... if possible.
2/13/2015 8:11:52 AM EDT
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Been there , done that. I built one 35 years ago. Love it.
Get the basement and a garage. Interior design is very flexible.
Do your homework on the way the logs are sealed and allow for movement. This is critical for low heating/cooling costs.

Metal roof is best with a 2' min roof overhang. 4' better

Wood exterior logs require maint to keep looking good and sealed.

Keep bugs away. So no ground contact, no bushes that touch logs, firewood piles , ect.





2/14/2015 4:40:57 AM EDT
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are you looking to have a contractor build this?  if so, you probably just doubled the cost of the house by having someone else build it... now the real savings is when you do most of the work yourself... if possible.
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yeah unfortunately I don't have much experience in the house-building department.

The log movement thing I find interesting. Anyone got any resources on studying up on that that are not a sales pitch from a "log home" seller?
2/14/2015 5:07:17 AM EDT
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Go to this course - it will change your life.  

http://www.buildloghomes.org/

You will have all your questions answered and you will be able to build much cheaper than a kit
2/15/2015 9:32:37 AM EDT
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http://www.buildloghomes.org/how-build-log-cabin

Edit: didn't see Mr. Bullet's post right above mine.
2/15/2015 2:14:18 PM EDT
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Been there , done that. I built one 35 years ago. Love it.Get the basement and a garage. Interior design is very flexible.Do your homework on the way the logs are sealed and allow for movement. This is critical for low heating/cooling costs.

Metal roof is best with a 2' min roof overhang. 4' better
Wood exterior logs require maint to keep looking good and sealed.
Keep bugs away. So no ground contact, no bushes that touch logs, firewood piles , ect.
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v323/timkel24102410/stuff/cabinsnow001_zps8de33ae2.jpg


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Looks like just what I'd be happy with.
I'm 6'5" but even a 6' high basement would be a huge plus.
2/16/2015 4:43:40 PM EDT
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Looks like just what I'd be happy with.
I'm 6'5" but even a 6' high basement would be a huge plus.
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Put a minimum of 7.5 foot walls in the basement. 8' would be better.
When you pour the floor that subtracts 4".
When you add a couple of bare bulbs or pipes that subtracts another 4".
The money is already tied up in 6 feet of basement rather than a detached pole building or whatever spend a few extra dollars and don't stoop in your own basement.
2/24/2015 1:38:00 AM EDT
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Been there , done that. I built one 35 years ago. Love it.Get the basement and a garage. Interior design is very flexible.Do your homework on the way the logs are sealed and allow for movement. This is critical for low heating/cooling costs.

Metal roof is best with a 2' min roof overhang. 4' better
Wood exterior logs require maint to keep looking good and sealed.
Keep bugs away. So no ground contact, no bushes that touch logs, firewood piles , ect.
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v323/timkel24102410/stuff/cabinsnow001_zps8de33ae2.jpg


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any resources out there on log movement?


As for that class, I can't exactly afford to go to Vegas at the moment.