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7/22/2009 8:20:30 AM EDT
Hopefully, someone can help me out on this.  I have just started canning whatever I can get my hands on and have done several recipes in the Blue Book.  



Everything has turned out pretty good so far, but when pressure canning, I seem to lose liquid from my jars.  I did some older potatos that were nearing the end of their life and chicken soup the other day.  In both cases, some of the jars maintained their 1 inch headspace, but others lost quite a bit of liquid.  Down to almost 2 inches of headspace.



Will this present a problem, or these jars ok?



Also, the chicken in the chicken soup darkened significantly.  Did I do something wrong?  I am at just over 1100 feet above sea level, so I adjusted to the 15 lb. setting as proscribed in the book.  Could I be using too much pressure?  Could it be due to my hard water?



Thanks for your help!



Drew
7/22/2009 8:46:04 AM EDT
[#1]
I looked at this thread thinking I could help, although I have never had that problem. I know that a lot of the things I can (meat) shrink in the canning process but I have never lost liquid.
so "tag" for answers
7/22/2009 8:57:54 AM EDT
[#2]
I have lost liquid when pressure canning.  Normally when this happens to me it's because  the bands weren't screwed on tight enough.  That doesn't mean they need to be torqued down though.  If you do that you could lose jars.
7/22/2009 8:58:42 AM EDT
[#3]
I can't do better than this.


Reasons for Liquid Loss From Jars

There are many reasons for loss of liquid from jars during processing:

  1. Leaving wrong amount of headspace when filling jars. Leave:

         1 inch headspace for LOW ACID foods such as most meats and vegetables.
         1 ¼ inch headspace for chicken and rabbit.
         Â½ inch headspace for HIGH ACID foods such as fruits, tomatoes, and fruit juices.
         Â¼ to ½ inch headspace for pickles and relishes as directed.
         Â¼ inch headspace for jams and jellies.
         Check USDA instructions for each food.

  2. Food packed so tightly that liquid did not fill the spaces between pieces of food.
  3. Starchy foods may absorb some of the liquid.
  4. Liquid added to cover cold raw food was not hot enough when placed in canner.
  5. Air bubbles not removed at time of packing. Use a plastic spatula around the inside of the jar to remove air bubbles.
  6. Jars processed in boiling water bath not covered with 1-2 inches of water.
  7. Pressure canner not sufficiently exhausted.
  8. Allowing pressure to fluctuate or sudden lowering of temperature during processing.
  9. Too sudden changes in temperature when processing period is over. (If the canner cools too quickly while the contents of the jar remain at a much higher temperature, the liquid will boil over. The contents of the jar and the canner have to cool down gradually from 240°F to 212°F. The "coming down" period should be gradual and even.)
 10. Opening the petcock before the pressure has returned to zero. (When the pressure has returned to zero, open the petcock very cautiously and if steam escapes, close and wait a few minutes. This avoids cooling the atmosphere around the jars too fast which causes liquid to boil over.)
 11. Letting the canner stand too long after pressure returned to zero. It should be opened within a couple of minutes after it returned to zero pressure.
 12. Removing the jars too quickly after removing the cover. Let the jars remain in the canner a few minutes after removing the cover, or until the boiling in the jars is less vigorous.
 13. Having an inaccurate dial pressure gauge that does not return to zero. (The petcock in this case could be opened too soon or not soon enough.)
 14. Not removing particles of food, seeds, seasonings, or pulp of fruit from top of jar or threads with damp paper towel before putting on lid. Particles left on rim of jar can because of lid sealing, then loosening..
 15. Screwing band too tight can cause lid to buckle. A band MUST be tight enough to hold the rubber sealing compound closely against the top of the jar. However, if the band is forced as far as it can be turned with a strong hand, the jar cannot vent. When the jar can't vent, pressure within the jar causes the lid to buckle. We suggest you tighten bands comfortably tight to prevent buckled lids.
 16. Not screwing band tight enough. As in No. 16, we suggest you tighten band comfortably tight so rubber sealing compound will be held closely against the top of the jar.
 17. Insufficient heat to seal the lid such as "open kettle". Do follow recommended processing times and methods.
 18. Leakage of steam from pressure canner.

Loss of liquid may cause the food to darken, but does not interfere with the keeping qualities unless the liquid that has been lost has caused food, grease or seeds to lodge under the lid and prevented a seal from forming. If liquid has been lost, do NOT open jar at the end of the processing to replace liquid. Opening the jar will result in spoilage of the food unless you use the contents immediately.

NOTE: Fruit packed raw must have 1 ½ inch of space for syrup - fruit juice cooks out of fruit, and fills jar with liquid. Otherwise too much liquid will boil over and siphoning will cause loss of liquid and possible sealing failures.
7/22/2009 9:18:39 PM EDT
[#4]




Quoted:

Hopefully, someone can help me out on this. I have just started canning whatever I can get my hands on and have done several recipes in the Blue Book.



Everything has turned out pretty good so far, but when pressure canning, I seem to lose liquid from my jars. I did some older potatos that were nearing the end of their life and chicken soup the other day. In both cases, some of the jars maintained their 1 inch headspace, but others lost quite a bit of liquid. Down to almost 2 inches of headspace.



Will this present a problem, or these jars ok?



Also, the chicken in the chicken soup darkened significantly. Did I do something wrong? I am at just over 1100 feet above sea level, so I adjusted to the 15 lb. setting as proscribed in the book. Could I be using too much pressure? Could it be due to my hard water?



Thanks for your help!



Drew




Drew, did you get a good seal on the jars you canned?  A good pop and a sunken lid?



7/23/2009 1:06:48 PM EDT
[#5]
That was a problem that used to plague me, in my situation I was getting impatient, you gotta let the cooker cool down to 0 psi  before you remove the petcock (I let mine sit for a little longer just to be on the safe side), if you dont the sudden change in pressure causes the jars to boil over.
7/23/2009 3:30:12 PM EDT
[#6]
The jars with less liquid DO have a good seal, so I am not too reluctant to store and use them.



I think the problem has been solved.  



I was getting impatient and removed the "jiggly weight" too soon.  There was still pressure in the canner.



I'll try again soon and let you know the results.  Thanks for your help all!





Drew
7/23/2009 4:48:38 PM EDT
[#7]
You'll probably want to dip off and pitch the stuff that's above the "water line" in the jars when you open them.  It'll dry out and get kinda gross.  If you dip that off, the stuff underneath will likely be just fine.



kitties
7/23/2009 5:04:32 PM EDT
[#8]
Quoted:
I was getting impatient and removed the "jiggly weight" too soon.  

Drew


That's usually the problem. I know it's hard, but just don't rush it. I pretty much turn off the heat and don't worry about what's happening for a few hours.




8/7/2009 7:59:52 AM EDT
[#9]
Have you tried it again?
8/8/2009 7:53:25 AM EDT
[#10]
I did the same thing my first time playing at pressure canning.  Did a batch of tomatos for practice and thought 1.5 pounds was close enough.

I took off the jiggler and then the lid and them jars were just boiling all of a sudden, emitting tomato liquour out the lid.  

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