Posted: 7/30/2013 7:22:26 PM EDT
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Does anyone have a retail source for concertina wire? My googles give me sites that will sell me like 5 tons at a time, though that would be awesome, I only really want 20 or so rolls. I am keeping an eye on government liquidators for some close by, but that seems kinda hit or miss.
Although I can find the smaller rolls of razor wire that top chain link fences this is what I am looking for 
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Quoted: Does anyone have a retail source for concertina wire? My googles give me sites that will sell me like 5 tons at a time, though that would be awesome, I only really want 20 or so rolls. I am keeping an eye on government liquidators for some close by, but that seems kinda hit or miss. Although I can find the smaller rolls of razor wire that top chain link fences this is what I am looking for http://3.bp.blogspot.com/-3hnimj0raEU/UCcE_je7WhI/AAAAAAAAwwc/csoUvJLddbA/s1600/concertina_wire_1.jpg |
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No help, but I can't help but snicker every time I see this picture... http://www.meh.ro/thumbnail/2010_05/meh.ro4208.jpg Thats the one I wanted to use, but couldn't get it to link. OlKev thanks. That type is in 18" rolls, It will probably work in an improvised fashon (and probably make very good tanglefoot).  The stuff I am looking for is about three foot coils, banded together to make a "slinky" and makes you go "god damn it" when you come in close proximity to it. 
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Billings Army Navy has some rolls. Not sure of the shipping charges. Looks like they offer a discount on five, 50' rolls @ $125... http://go-armynavy.com/military-surplus/field-gear/us-military-razor-wire-5-rolls.html
Sly ETA: Sorry, wrong item for what you're after. (I think) |
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Quoted: Would your local fencing company not carry it also? I know they put it on top of certain fences here like around liquor and tobacco distributors. I could swear I've seen the larger rolls too in several layers some places. It's gotta be available via some sort of fencing supplier. Try calling around to all the local fencing places. Just because they don't have it out front on display doesn't mean they don't have it or can't get it. Otherwise, there are other ways to accomplish the same thing (admittedly, not as efficiently), what you protecting with it?
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NSN 5660009215516 Barbed Tape, Concertina (Allied Tube & Conduit)
The real deal. They come in 40 each packs, that's how they come. Standard I have used my entire time in the Navy is the 38" diameter. You will also need wire handling gloves which have metal on the palm and fingers and hog rings and hog ring pliers to assemble. If this is for a defensive static operation don't forget pickets and some barbed wire to prevent people from going under or over by propping up or smashing down the C wire. This stuff is nasty if put up correctly. |
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NSN 5660009215516 Barbed Tape, Concertina (Allied Tube & Conduit) The real deal. They come in 40 each packs, that's how they come. Standard I have used my entire time in the Navy is the 38" diameter. You will also need wire handling gloves which have metal on the palm and fingers and hog rings and hog ring pliers to assemble. If this is for a defensive static operation don't forget pickets and some barbed wire to prevent people from going under or over by propping up or smashing down the C wire. This stuff is nasty if put up correctly. Thanks. Thats the stuff. 40 pieces is a little more than I wanted, but it is doable. I am planning on using it to deny access to some dead space around my property. It is very nasty, I have had the privelage of both installing it and policing trash out triple strand. I wound up not unlike the poor Marine in the picture above. |
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Not a problem. I think C wire is a great solution to some of the security problems home or land owners face. Its a bitch to work with sometimes but if its used to fill dead space or as a final protective fence it is very good.
Are you using a standard barbed wire fence for a perimeter or first layer? |
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Are you using a standard barbed wire fence for a perimeter or first layer? I will probably be using the standard five wire fence around the outer edge of my property. Although it is not very secure, it will serve to define my boundaries under normal circumstances. In addition to the formentioned concertina for deadspace, I plan to build a six or eight foot chain link fence anchored in the ground to define and limit access to my "yard". I am currently working on clearing numerous juniper bushes to open up my lines of observation. After my "normal" fencing projects are complete I plan to have enough material left over to use for "emergencies", like extra barbed wire to create tangle foot obstacles around my "yard" fence and a few additional rolls of C wire for obstacles to limit access down my road and driveway. So far my priorities of work are; (1) Clear lines of observation (2) install perimeter fence and deny deadspace (3) install inner fence. I know obstacles are of little value unless they are under observation, so under normal circumstances they will only serve to deter opportunistic criminals, however in an emergency situation they should be an adequate base to build a defence from. Any additional thoughts would be appreciated. |
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The google is weak in him. Oh, its a 13'er. A new one at that.  oh and lookey there, he is a paying member. 
we don't usually bash folks in the survival forums. that kinda wording might fly in GD though; why don't you go back and hang out in there awhile. |
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The google is weak in him. Oh, its a 13'er. A new one at that. Link? ETA I have been informed that it is a made to order item. That would explain the huge minimum orders from the suppliers. Government liquidators has it in VA right now,(concertina auction) and I found a freight company that is authorized to pick it and ship it from there. I was under the impression that the winner of the auction had to take delivery in person, but that is not the case. Thanks for the help everyone. 
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Cool stuff. "If put up propperly" -How is that done? Here are the basic instructions with some illustrations. Article on triple strand As stated earlier, there are also various non standard methods to employ concertina, IE inside buildings, across windows, filling in ditches etc. Use your imagination, it is very versatile. |
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Cool stuff. "If put up propperly" -How is that done? Here are the basic instructions with some illustrations. Article on triple strand As stated earlier, there are also various non standard methods to employ concertina, IE inside buildings, across windows, filling in ditches etc. Use your imagination, it is very versatile. Thanks! |
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Cool stuff. "If put up propperly" -How is that done? Here are the basic instructions with some illustrations. Article on triple strand As stated earlier, there are also various non standard methods to employ concertina, IE inside buildings, across windows, filling in ditches etc. Use your imagination, it is very versatile. Thanks! Also check these articles out Lizard farmer |
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I just recieved a quote from the freighter. It is about $.76 a pound to ship to NM  . Unfortunately the lot is 5K lbs. Isn't there a local fence company? Around here practically every yard and business has a fence from the same company. I'm pretty sure they could get what I need a lot cheaper after shipping costs were calculated. |
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The local fence guys don't understand what I am looking for. They think I am asking about razor wire that is used to top chain link fencing. When I try to explain C wire I get a . I haven't yet asked in the bigger cities around here, but it seems to be a fairly specialized application.
The freight company I recieved the quote from seems to be a hotshot outfit, and was going to load it and deliver it here. I kind of expected for them to pick it and ship it on a third party carrier, so I was expecting somewhat less in shipping charges. I placed a very low bid, so in the off chance I win I will try to con my brother into a road trip to pick it up. With some quick and dirty math to figure in gas it will come to about $16 a roll which is about half of the property value listed. |
