Posted: 2/26/2012 8:21:03 AM EDT
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Looking for pics or ideas for contents of a survival knife kit.
I've been toying with the idea of a mini survival knife. I have a larger knife with a pouch and kit on it already, but this kit is small enough to fit in my pocket. I also have another BK14 and enough contents to make one for my wife to throw in her purse. It can be hung around the neck or worn on a belt. More than anything its something to pass time and play with! 
Contents so far include: Mini altoids tin wrapped in 2ft of duct tape P-38 Swiss-Tech utili-key Small LED light 8x10 sheet of tin foil 2 Katadyn water purification tablets 1 needle spool of thread several feet of thin rope 15ft fishing line 3 fishing hooks 3 sinker weights Brunton compass 3ft of wire 2 safety pins 3 waterproof matches Im up for suggestions on what you would remove or replace! Im looking at a way to add some paracord to the exterior then removing the rope from inside the tin. 
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That is pretty good. My suggestions to consider, I would be tempted to put a firesteel in there. I know you got the matches and some people prefer a match over a firesteel, but I would opt for the longevity of a firesteel. For me a compass without maps is not so useful. There are plenty of ways to get a bearing, but the compass you have is very tiny so I am not hugely opposed to it. I have been toying with the idea of including a small amount of bait for traps, something to get started with... maybe a small packet of peanut butter? Lastly, for me I include about 5 Aleive/Ibuprophen... it is a bit of a luxury that is hard to justify in a tiny knife survival kit but it can help me manage the inevitable pain for a few days and can mean the difference in hiking 20 miles instead if 10. Something to consider. ETA: How bout glueing a picture of a loved one to can for a morale booster.
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That is pretty good. My suggestions to consider, I would be tempted to put a firesteel in there. I know you got the matches and some people prefer a match over a firesteel, but I would opt for the longevity of a firesteel. For me a compass without maps is not so useful. There are plenty of ways to get a bearing, but the compass you have is very tiny so I am not hugely opposed to it. I have been toying with the idea of including a small amount of bait for traps, something to get started with... maybe a small packet of peanut butter? Lastly, for me I include about 5 Aleive/Ibuprophen... it is a bit of a luxury that is hard to justify in a tiny knife survival kit but it can help me manage the inevitable pain for a few days and can mean the difference in hiking 20 miles instead if 10. Something to consider. ETA: How bout glueing a picture of a loved one to can for a morale booster. Thanks for the suggestions. I do have a firesteel to attach, just waiting for the kydex i ordered to arrive to make a small loop for it to attach it to the exterior of the sheath. |
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I have seen a number of reviews on the util-i-key that indicated the blade was not especially sharp and was not sharpenable. it is why I do not have one. have you tried using the blade at all? maybe a video of it cutting something is in order. I've been carrying one on my keychain for a long time, its never had to cut much other than cardboard boxes or plastic packages though. I like the idea of the screwdrivers, but its definitely something i could live without in this kit. |
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A very sound little kit. My only suggestion would be to add a couple of those "Quik" tinder bundles. They can easily fill any gaps and keep items from rolling around if lose and they are also very effective with a firesteel.
Another consideration is replacing the thread with artificial sinew. I'm quite impressed with this stuff...like dental floss but on steroids, plus I've been able to separate a single piece into five smaller strands...about the size of regular thread but much, much stronger. ROCK6 |
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I'd suggest replacing the UtiliKey with a Victoriniox Classic SAK. I carry both on a daily basis, but have yet to find anything
that the UtiliKey can do that the Classic can't do better. Have you ever tried to use the screwdrivers on the UtiliKey? I find that only the Phillips is positioned for easy use, & the others are either too big (for glasses/other small screws) or too small (everything else). Also, a question: How do you get into the Altoids tin with the duct tape wrapped around it? I flat-folded my tape, using a peel-off backer from a heavy sticker as a base around which get started wrapping it. A ranger band could hold it (and a firesteel, and other things) bundled with your tin. David |
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I'd suggest replacing the UtiliKey with a Victoriniox Classic SAK. I carry both on a daily basis, but have yet to find anything that the UtiliKey can do that the Classic can't do better. Have you ever tried to use the screwdrivers on the UtiliKey? I find that only the Phillips is positioned for easy use, & the others are either too big (for glasses/other small screws) or too small (everything else). Also, a question: How do you get into the Altoids tin with the duct tape wrapped around it? I flat-folded my tape, using a peel-off backer from a heavy sticker as a base around which get started wrapping it. A ranger band could hold it (and a firesteel, and other things) bundled with your tin. David I'll check out one of those Victornox tools. I wouldnt want to rely on the utili-key, but i had one laying around and it fits the pouch perfectly. Also a good idea on the duct tape. I've thought about a ranger band to hold a little paracord, just need to find some used innertubes to make one. Thanks again for the suggestions! |
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Nice set up, where did the pouch come from ? RCN Pouch -Just click on there ebay auctions link. I emailed them rather than going through ebay. 2 shipped for $30. |
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Nice set up, where did the pouch come from ? RCN Pouch -Just click on there ebay auctions link. I emailed them rather than going through ebay. 2 shipped for $30. It looks like a single speed loader pouch...with eyelets. |
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Hope this isnt a silly question but what is a ranger band? Piece of a tube from a bike or motorcycle tire used to secure gear. I believe army rangers originally used it to silence gear, keep things from banging around. Yeap, that's the history and they are all over my gear. Plus, they also work as a fire-starter material and can be used for signalling with the smoke they give off if using a handful of them. ROCK6 |
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Thanks everyone for the suggestions. I will check out a replacement for the thread. It does now have a firesteel. Looks good; nice compact package. Quoted:
Very nice I want to build one of these for myself, but I don't want the duct tape on the tin and I dont think I want a compass, and I will replace the thread with sinew. I'm not sure how big the pouch is, but an old credit card warpped with 8 to 10 feet of 100mph/duct tape may fit; that's what I carry daily in my back pocket opposite of my wallet. I'm using duct tape daily for a number of things. I also like the sinew much better than any thread and I actually like it better dental floss, but the floss is easier to buy and package off the shelf. ROCK6 |
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Can you show how the fire steel is attached ? Its a piece of kydex thats T shaped under the pouch with holes drilled on each side to run the paracord trough. I re-ran the paracord like the pictures i first posted and it seems to hold the kydex pretty tight. When i heated and bent the kydex i used the shaft of a screwdriver thats a little smaller than the firesteel. This way the firesteel is a tight fit and wont come out. |
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Yes but as you use the fire steel the diameter will shrink and it will loosen. Put an bungy through the handle ans loop it over the tail of the steel to hold it on. http://i99.photobucket.com/albums/l318/Longhunter-CO/P3020470.jpg Good tip! Thanks! 
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Don't know if anyone's mentioned it, but you should use contact adhesive and glue a piece of emory cloth to the back of the tin for edge maintenance. I like this idea. The best version I saw was a piece of leather glued to the top and loaded for use as a strop. Slightly longer pieces of wet/dry sandpaper (800-1200 grit) could then be folded over the top and secured by closing the ends inside the tin allowing you to maintain or repair your knife's edge and finish up with the leather underneath. ROCK6 |
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Yes but as you use the fire steel the diameter will shrink and it will loosen. Put an bungy through the handle ans loop it over the tail of the steel to hold it on. http://i99.photobucket.com/albums/l318/Longhunter-CO/P3020470.jpg Where did you get that sheath? |
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What type of wire is good for snare wire? http://www.ebay.com/itm/USGI-Military-Vietnam-Era-Trip-Wire-Snare-Wire-160ft-/320569460992 |
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Quoted: Which pouch are you looking for? The ESEE OEM? Or this one?Linky for pouch on ebay?? I could not locate with part number?? |
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Which pouch are you looking for? The ESEE OEM? Or this one?Linky for pouch on ebay?? I could not locate with part number?? Thats where i got the small pouches from, except i emailed them and got a little better deal. They just started making pouches for other knives too. |
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Get a faucet key from the hardware store, lots of buildings have faucets w/o knobs to keep people frrom using them. Posted Via AR15.Com Mobile That's a great idea. Kit that small you really gotta focus on the three important things, first shelter, second water, third signaling. maybe a couple of band-aids (duct tape) thrown in for good measure. Try and do too much in such a small space, and it'll suck at all of it. I'd go with emergency blanket, cordage, couple of oven bags or breast milk bags with a few purification tabs, small mirror, OLN storm matches with some type of tender, glue the emory cloth on the back (something coarse enough to touch up a good nick from rough use say 400 grit) seal it up with some duct tape which can be used for a hundred things. That's pretty much gonna help you get though a couple of days. anything else you can fit is a bonus. Stuff like a sewing kit when you're lost, cold, and wet, or suffering from heat exhaustion and thirsty is not going to make you feel any better. Just my 2 cents YMMV. |
| Have you struke the firesteel with your blade yet? I dont know if you have the space, but I always like to use a small section of hacksaw blade as it makes a better striker. Drill a hole in it and thread some paracord through it and you can lash it to the firesteel. Good luck, it looks good so far! |