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9/4/2011 3:07:34 PM EDT
Well got my pack that i want to use which is a kelty 2800... now i was wondering how you guys set your pack up. Three main issues are how do i attach my tent and sleeping bag to the outside and where, where to keep larger items like my shovel and ax, and how do i keep all the items in the pack seperated, food from ammo from clothes ect... so if you would picture and descriptions are needed. This pack will be an extended bug out set up. thanks all!
9/4/2011 3:22:54 PM EDT
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See the tacked thread above entitled "BOB––What It should Be".

All the good advice in the world is NO substitute for you going out––even in your backyard––and actually using your gear.  In fact, a backyard try-out is a GREAT place to use all your gear for the first time.

Practice makes perfect, and the best place to BEGIN practicing is in your backyard..
9/4/2011 5:58:36 PM EDT
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i have a fairly good understanding of what will be in my pack  but it is how to organize it within the pack and where on the outside to attach the pack that i am having issues with.
9/4/2011 7:12:06 PM EDT
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i have a fairly good understanding of what will be in my pack  but it is how to organize it within the pack and where on the outside to attach the pack that i am having issues with.


Check out the BOB thread.  I use color coded compression sacks for everything.  There's nothing loose in my main compartment, just 5 sacks.
9/5/2011 12:13:45 AM EDT
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i have a fairly good understanding of what will be in my pack  but it is how to organize it within the pack and where on the outside to attach the pack that i am having issues with.


walk out into the woods with it for a weekend, by sunday you will have it figured out.



No mayyer what people say, this is the best way to organize soemthing personal



 
9/5/2011 6:41:58 AM EDT
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Well got my pack that i want to use which is a kelty 2800... now i was wondering how you guys set your pack up. Three main issues are how do i attach my tent and sleeping bag to the outside and where, where to keep larger items like my shovel and ax, and how do i keep all the items in the pack seperated, food from ammo from clothes ect... so if you would picture and descriptions are needed. This pack will be an extended bug out set up. thanks all!


Just curious how far do you plan to carry this on your back? Just the stuff you mentioned probably has you close to 15-20 pounds and much of it is of dubious value in a BOB. Not necessarily useless or bad choices, but not something that makes a lot of sense for most people's BOBs IMO.

Is this for a car kit? Maybe it makes more sense there because weight is not an issue.

I am curious what you think your BOB is for?

To me there is a huge difference between my car kit stuff (because the car is carrying it) and what I am willing to sling on my back and walk home with.

To me the most critical thing if I have to walk home is foot wear, yet it is something that is totally unaddressed by many in their thinking. It suggests to me that a lot of people have never put their BOB on their back and humped it for 5 miles. I no longer wear regular shoes for that reason. I wear either boots that I regularly wear hiking or some ankle high hiking shoes. I do not wish to be 5 miles from home in shoes that are going to give me blisters if I walk 100 yards in them, or have no bite in the snow so I am sliding all the way home.

I don't know that any of us can tell you what is perfect for what you envision to be the uses for your setup. Perhaps you could enlighten us. I find that often if one can sit down and write out just what it is that one is trying to prepare for that a lot of things become a lot clearer.

A lot of people just tie off the stuff that they carry on the outside of their packs. The main problem I see with that is if you have so much stuff in a pack of this size that you need to be hanging stuff off the outisde of the pack, you probably just have too much stuff to begin with.

But again, a lot of choices are rooted in what it is you are trying to prepare for.

I am not going to be walking 200 miles to get home. Just ain't gonna happen, and it will not happen for any of you either. It is just totally unrealistic. That does not mean it can't be done, or that it never has been done, just that it is well beyond what is rational to prepare for. In any case, very few people can carry enough stuff on their back to get them 200 miles down the road on foot. Resupply is a critical part of that kind of planning that very few people even consider.

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See the tacked thread above entitled "BOB––What It should Be".

All the good advice in the world is NO substitute for you going out––even in your backyard––and actually using your gear.  In fact, a backyard try-out is a GREAT place to use all your gear for the first time.

Practice makes perfect, and the best place to BEGIN practicing is in your backyard..


Absolutely. There is no substitute for trying to set up your tent in the rain without getting it full of water than actually doing it. And better to do it in your yard the first time so you do not die from hypothermia the first time when you have to set it up and can't. My suggestion is turn your sprinkler on and try to set it up under the simulated rain, preferably when it is about 45 degrees out and dark. It is MUCH harder to do anything when it is dark and you are cold and wet. Most of us have never tried working in the cold and wet. The first time is a huge shock to the system when your body parts just won't work right. Try setting up your tent in the middle of a thunderstorm some time with some decent wind. It can be all but impossible.

Having set up a tent in poor condition s a few times, I have decided a tent is not part of any kit I have. Tarps are much easier to setup in most cases. If you have to you can just curl up inside one and get yourself out of the wind and rain very quickly. A large garbage bag is even quicker to get yourself out of the weather.

But like many of these kind of things, a lot goes to personal preference. No one can tell you what it is that will make you feel the most comfortably prepared. And that feeling that you have done an "adequate" job of making some kind of preparation is important.