Bump, because it's so darn important!

plus i want to post my pics later today, for some advice. my BOB is a suitcase! I need to rework that.

Originally Posted By neonnoodle: Originally Posted By protus: Originally Posted By SteelonSteel: I SMELL A RAT! That's not protus, that's the man baby.   They've hacked Protus' computer but they forgot to alter the typing style.  Clearly they have clear minds and the the thought process was not transferred into illegible gibberish. god bless protus wherever he is. Those bastards! (southpark kids voice) SoS its , me i just dont drink anymore like i used to. im dried up!! lol plus i used spell check sorta lol Good to see you posting over at Lightfighter. I saw this same post up this week over there.

mostly there for the roll your own section. Till i saw that  bob/bail out thread.  There is certainly a different outlook on what a BOB is over there or the type of events we may encounter! lol

Originally Posted By SmittyMOjoe: Dave5339..... Nice kit! How do you like the Katadyne Pocket filter? Oh, and can we get this tacked? PLEASE! smitty

I'm not Dave but i own a Pocket filter...... i call it my eotw filiter and it stays in my preps at the house just to heavy for a ghb or backpacking imo as always ymmv

The msr sweetwater is nice option for a pack imo

I'm one of the mil-spec bag crowd, but then I go by the theory of all your stuff falls out when the pack fails, you're screwed.

Do any of you guys have a "business as usual" BOB? It hard to explain, but I'll give the circumstances surrounding the question.

Last year the area where I live experienced one of the so called hundred year floods. My wife was working at the hospital and called me (also at work) to say that people were showing up saying the National Guard had gone to their houses and said there was a mandatory evacuation and they had 30 minutes to get some things together. Some of the people only lived a mile down the road from us. I told her that I would go to the house and get the dog and some things. I wasn't worried, as I knew we had the GHB's in the vehicles and the BOB's at the house. Since the event was pretty localized, we would implement Phase 1, and just go to my wife's parents.

I went home, grabbed the BOB's and the dog and started to leave. That's when I realized that even though my BOB had a tarp, fire starting equipment, water filters, and most things mentioned in this thread, I didn't have things that I would need to go back to work the next morning. I didn't have any "work" clothes (meaning dress shirts and pants). I also didn't have a shaving kit (I did have toothbrush, paste and deordorant).

I know this post has been drawn out, so do any of you have a kit that you would take on a business trip that you keep with your BOB? After this episode, I put together a a small pack that I use when going away that has a toiletry kit and a spare set of clothes. Afterall, the most likely event for me would probably be a local or private one where I would still have to go to work, not live in the woods. I am prepared for that, however.

NHGUNNER;

Great example you gave.  I do think, that if you were forced to evacuate for a few days and could not get to your home, your employer would probably understand if you came to work in clean clothes.  Showing up and doing your job under difficult circumstances would far outweigh your clothing situation.  I'm sure they wouldn't appreciate bunny slippers and sponge bob square pants t-shirt, but since you obviously are concerned with your appearance (thinking about getting "work" clothes), this wouldn't be an issue.

We are business casual at work, and most everyone wears jeans.  So if I were to show up in khaki bdu pants, it would not really raise any eyebrows.  If necessary, I could always do some laundry in the sink of the hotel.

NHG,
a simple small bag could be left at your  office also with a spare set or inside a small bag in your car/truck.?.

For most i think a BOB is a last dicth grab  and go. In all honesty thats what they are, a pack of stuff to keep you alive. weather or not they keep you good looking,smelling and clean shaven is up to the user.
But well worth the note for buisness types or office workers, in my truck i kept a complete set of clothing " just" in case. Just normal everyday stuff even with jackets, this way i dont have to swap out clothing in winter.
thanks for the Input, well worth the idea/tip for some.

A "business as usual" bag is a great idea. I actually hadn't thought of that. I guess I figured if I was still going to work I'd still be at home but gunner's scenario is a possibility as well. We do have a backpack with a bathroom kit in it for staying at a friend's house.

I think I will consider putting together an overnight bag that stays permantly packed. I actually kept a bag like that packed in my truck when I was younger but it wasn't for shtf...it was for "oops, I never came home from the party/bar because of that pretty little thing".

Probably some nicer khaki cargo pants, underwear, socks and a button up polo would be plenty for most people, I would think?

Originally Posted By protus: NHG, a simple small bag could be left at your  office also with a spare set or inside a small bag in your car/truck.?.

I've been thinking about leaving some clothes at the office. If anyone asked, I could say it was in case I was on the shop floor and got covered in grease or something.

Originally Posted By NHGUNNER: Originally Posted By protus: NHG, a simple small bag could be left at your  office also with a spare set or inside a small bag in your car/truck.?. I've been thinking about leaving some clothes at the office. If anyone asked, I could say it was in case I was on the shop floor and got covered in grease or something.

My dad used to work in a meat processing plant and he kept extra clothes in his office in case something like that happened so it wouldn't be an unreasonable excuse, I wouldn't think. Sort of like geo-cacheing at work.

Great post Protus. Lots of good stuff in there.

Originally Posted By M4MikelA3: Originally Posted By NHGUNNER: Originally Posted By protus: NHG, a simple small bag could be left at your  office also with a spare set or inside a small bag in your car/truck.?. I've been thinking about leaving some clothes at the office. If anyone asked, I could say it was in case I was on the shop floor and got covered in grease or something. My dad used to work in a meat processing plant and he kept extra clothes in his office in case something like that happened so it wouldn't be an unreasonable excuse, I wouldn't think. Sort of like geo-cacheing at work.

that or say you had bad shrimp and its in case you shart? hey,, then you just "forgot" to take them home,,,
It'll save space in your bag for other prep items!

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Protus...... Come on man! " shart "!? I think we're all old enough here to call a spade a spade for Christ's sake! (heeheehee).

`Yer killin me my friend!


Bear

Originally Posted By FreeBear: Protus...... Come on man! " shart "!? I think we're all old enough here to call a spade a spade for Christ's sake! (heeheehee). `Yer killin me my friend! Bear

Yes, Shart.  Shit-Fart.  When you think you are going to do one and end up with a little of the other.  

Also added this for the bump factor.  Great info and once again we need a tacked BOB thread in the Survival section.  Hell, if it isn't this one then lets get one that has good info for what people need.

Oh great, greaaaaaaaaaaaaaaat...
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(this may just be TMI! )

Another request for a tack on this great thread PLEASE!
I'm a newb to this forum and these kinds of threads are very helpful.
After 7 pages I realized my "GHB"(Max. Jumbo-s) is now a fanny pack for day trips,my "BoB" pack(Swiss Gear Urban Pack) is now my "GHB" and I need a serious pack for my "BOB".
I have alot of stuff to buy as none of my packs are really started.
Threads like these help newbs like myself avoid wasting alot of money on stuff that doesnt make sense and we appreciate all the input from you guys.
Tim

most packs are sized according to the number of inches between cervical vertebra #7 and Lumbar vertebra#5 (C7-L5) .
Have someone take that measurement for you with a cloth tape measure.
Most manufacturers of quality equipment and retailers like REI will list that number of inches along with the description of the pack you are looking for.
Hope that helps, narrow down the sea of possibilities.
You may want to consider buying Backpacker's (magazine) annual GEAR GUIDE -it has the vast majority of packs, styles, sizes made that are worth mention. That may help narrow things down before making the trip or financial commitment.
http://backpacker.com/
this also includes reviews, as well as tents, sleeping bags, tents, cookware etc.... well worth the price , you can probably find in Barnes and Noble etc. without subscribing to the entire year.
I personally own a number of packs:
Swiss Gear 2000 CI from Academy >$39
Cheaper Than Dirt Molle pack  cheaperthandirt.com/MOLLE126-41519-514.html $49 surprisingly versatile and roomy
Dana Designs Astral Plane Backpack from my younger days.. 7800 CI WAS $349
Uncle Mike Camo 1100 CI fanny pack..don't remember price.

Bump for good measure.

 

There has been multiple requests.  Why don't we tack it??  Other than the HAM Radio thread, this is the most read.

As a newb to this forum, I see this as a fantastic thread.
I have been a long time backpacker and read whiteblaze.net constantly. Many great overlapping ideas. Give it a shot if you have time.
Just as an aside, TYVEX is a great, nearly weightless waterproof material used to wrap new houses. You can usually get guys to give you a big piece for nothing at the site. It is crinkly as hell until you wash it in the washer and soften it up without reducing its usefulness. Makes a great ground cloth, lean-to, pack cover, all kinds of good stuff. Better as a waterproofer than the garbage bags but no distilling capabilities.

Thanks again for this great info. Now I won't unpack my gear when I get home from a trip.

Cracker, your right. This is an amazing thread, lets give protus a big Huzzah!

lots of good stuff

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Hey Protus, thanks for linking me to this.  I had forgotten that it was here, it is now saved to my list.  It really is quite helpful.

GREAT topic, What do you guys think of a Molle 2 patrol pack as a BOB? I have the patrol pack, main pack, frame, canteen pouches ,butt pack ETC. I was thinking of using the small patrol pack with the canteen holders and a few other pockets as my BOB, keeping it in my vehicle and then use the main pack if something went down at home. I could always attach the patrol pack to the main pack. I'm sure there are better options but Im trying to work with what I have.

... My inventory

Commodity Qty Specification
Aluminum foil 1 piece, (20 sq. ft.)
Ammo 50 .357 magnum
AZ map 1
BDU Trousers Desert tan, XL
Beenie 1 Carhardt (headwear)
Binoculars 1 Nikon 10X25 6.5°
Bleach 1 Pint
Boonie Cap 1 7.75", 6-color desert
Bore patches 24 1 inch sq.
Bottle 1 Nalgene, 32 oz. (filled w/ smaller items)
Butane Fuel 1 2 oz. (lighter)
Butane Fuel Canister 1 7.75 oz. 70% Butane, 30% Propane
Camping saw, wire 1 18"
Can opener 1 USGI (P51)
Chlorine Bleach 1 Bottle, 4 oz.
Cleaning kit 1 USGI -  rifle small-bore
Collapsible wash basin 1 5 gallon, plastic
Compass 1 w/ magnifying glass
Cork screw 1 small
Cup 1 Metal, 16 oz.
Duct Tape 1 2" wide, 25'
Dust Mask 3 N100 Particulate Mask
Emergency food 2 Packs, 3600 calories each
First Aid Kit 1 Field Trauma Kit (Adventure Med)
Fishing tackle, basics 1 TBD
Flashlight 1 Small, LED
Flashlight 1 Larger, handheld LED
Flint / Magnesium 1 Fire starter
Fuel tabs 48 9 minute Hexamine
Gloves 1 Pair, deerskin, large
Gun oil 1 Bottle, 3 oz. Hoppes
Hammock 1 Amazonas 250#
Hand sanitizer 2 1 oz. Bottles
Hand warmer 4 18 hours
HD needles, awl 5 4 needles, 1 awl
Insect Repellent 1 Bottle, 1.1 oz. (100% DEET)
JB Weld 1 package
Knife 1 3.5" folding, serrated
Knife 1 6" fixed blade
Latex gloves 3 pair
LED Flashlight 1
Light 1 Head lamp, LCD
Lighter 2 Heavy duty, butane (extreme)
Lightstick 4 Lightstick
Liquor 0.5 Pint "Everclear"
Long underwear 1 Top, bottom
Marker 1 Sharpie, fine point
Matches 3 Box, windproof
Mirror 1 Small
Mosquito head-net 1
Multi-tool 1 Gerber
N-100 mask 10
Nylon line 1 225 ft. / 9#
Oil canister 1 1 oz.
Paracord 1 ~ 200'
Pen/pad 1 ea.
Personal Radiation Dosimeter 2 ea.
Plastic bags 4 13 gal.
Poncho 1 Lightweight, 52X"80"
Powerbar 4
Prescription glasses 1 untinted
Prescription glasses 1 sunglasses
Protein bars 6 290 calories "Powerbar"
Radio 1 Grundig FR200 AM/FM Shortwave
Revolver 1 Ruger GP100
Rope 1 50' - 3/8" GP utility
Salt/Pepper 1
Saw 1 12" camp saw
Sewing kit 1 Emergency kit
Sewing kit
Shoe Laces 1 Boot, 54"
Shovel 1 Folding
Silverware 1 Coleman kit
Small sissors 1
Soap, bar antibacterial 1
Soap, liquid antibacterial 1 10 oz. Liquid antibacterial concentr.
Socks 2 Pair, heavy-duty wool blend
Stove 1 Coleman ultrlight F1
Sunscreen 1 6 oz. SPF30
Superglue 2 .5 oz vials
Survival Handbook 1 US Army Survival Manual FM 21-76
Survival sleeping bag 1 84" X 36"
Tabasco sauce 1 oz.
Toothbrush 1
TP 1 Roll
Tube tent 1
Underwear 1 Cotton briefs
Washcloths 35 "Wet Ones" outdoors
Water Bladder 1 5 gallon, black (shower)
Water bladder 1 100 oz. Camelpak
Water Filter 1 Katadyn "Hiker"
Water PA Plus 50 Neutralizing tabs
Water purification tabs 50 Bottle, Tetraglycine Hydroperidide
Wire camp-saw 1 20"
Zip ties 4 Heavy duty
Zip ties 12 Light duty
Zip-lock bags 12 I gallon

Originally Posted By Winston_Wolf: ... My inventory Commodity Qty Specification Aluminum foil 1 piece, (20 sq. ft.) Ammo 50 .357 magnum AZ map 1 BDU Trousers Desert tan, XL Beenie 1 Carhardt (headwear) Binoculars 1 Nikon 10X25 6.5° Bleach 1 Pint Boonie Cap 1 7.75", 6-color desert Bore patches 24 1 inch sq. Bottle 1 Nalgene, 32 oz. (filled w/ smaller items) Butane Fuel 1 2 oz. (lighter) Butane Fuel Canister 1 7.75 oz. 70% Butane, 30% Propane Camping saw, wire 1 18" Can opener 1 USGI (P51) Chlorine Bleach 1 Bottle, 4 oz. Cleaning kit 1 USGI -  rifle small-bore Collapsible wash basin 1 5 gallon, plastic Compass 1 w/ magnifying glass Cork screw 1 small Cup 1 Metal, 16 oz. Duct Tape 1 2" wide, 25' Dust Mask 3 N100 Particulate Mask Emergency food 2 Packs, 3600 calories each First Aid Kit 1 Field Trauma Kit (Adventure Med) Fishing tackle, basics 1 TBD Flashlight 1 Small, LED Flashlight 1 Larger, handheld LED Flint / Magnesium 1 Fire starter Fuel tabs 48 9 minute Hexamine Gloves 1 Pair, deerskin, large Gun oil 1 Bottle, 3 oz. Hoppes Hammock 1 Amazonas 250# Hand sanitizer 2 1 oz. Bottles Hand warmer 4 18 hours HD needles, awl 5 4 needles, 1 awl Insect Repellent 1 Bottle, 1.1 oz. (100% DEET) JB Weld 1 package Knife 1 3.5" folding, serrated Knife 1 6" fixed blade Latex gloves 3 pair LED Flashlight 1 Light 1 Head lamp, LCD Lighter 2 Heavy duty, butane (extreme) Lightstick 4 Lightstick Liquor 0.5 Pint "Everclear" Long underwear 1 Top, bottom Marker 1 Sharpie, fine point Matches 3 Box, windproof Mirror 1 Small Mosquito head-net 1 Multi-tool 1 Gerber N-100 mask 10 Nylon line 1 225 ft. / 9# Oil canister 1 1 oz. Paracord 1 ~ 200' Pen/pad 1 ea. Personal Radiation Dosimeter 2 ea. Plastic bags 4 13 gal. Poncho 1 Lightweight, 52X"80" Powerbar 4 Prescription glasses 1 untinted Prescription glasses 1 sunglasses Protein bars 6 290 calories "Powerbar" Radio 1 Grundig FR200 AM/FM Shortwave Revolver 1 Ruger GP100 Rope 1 50' - 3/8" GP utility Salt/Pepper 1 Saw 1 12" camp saw Sewing kit 1 Emergency kit Sewing kit Shoe Laces 1 Boot, 54" Shovel 1 Folding Silverware 1 Coleman kit Small sissors 1 Soap, bar antibacterial 1 Soap, liquid antibacterial 1 10 oz. Liquid antibacterial concentr. Socks 2 Pair, heavy-duty wool blend Stove 1 Coleman ultrlight F1 Sunscreen 1 6 oz. SPF30 Superglue 2 .5 oz vials Survival Handbook 1 US Army Survival Manual FM 21-76 Survival sleeping bag 1 84" X 36" Tabasco sauce 1 oz. Toothbrush 1 TP 1 Roll Tube tent 1 Underwear 1 Cotton briefs Washcloths 35 "Wet Ones" outdoors Water Bladder 1 5 gallon, black (shower) Water bladder 1 100 oz. Camelpak Water Filter 1 Katadyn "Hiker" Water PA Plus 50 Neutralizing tabs Water purification tabs 50 Bottle, Tetraglycine Hydroperidide Wire camp-saw 1 20" Zip ties 4 Heavy duty Zip ties 12 Light duty Zip-lock bags 12 I gallon

i see dbls and trips onsome items?
i take this is along the  lines of an INCH bag? or multi-person? whats total weight or is it a dedicated BOV/BOL bag?

thanks for the input fellas,

height=8

Originally Posted By protus: height=8 Originally Posted By mustangracer: height=8 Originally Posted By protus: what saves weigh onmy end is i have no tent. i use the light weight tarps that i make as a hobby. they are all on avg under 6.5 OZ's.  i have two in this kit and they dont weigh over 9 oz's combined. and both are 5x8(7)'s. Could you possibly post up a pic of these, I think it's a great idea and a helluva lot lighter than a tent. this is one of the set ups. which im giving away as a present to a family memeber. 12oz with stakes and all. img.photobucket.com/albums/v54/protus/feb26.jpg img.photobucket.com/albums/v54/protus/decshelterfront.jpg 2nd one twice as big,, and 14.5 oz's loaded. img.photobucket.com/albums/v54/protus/may11.jpg the others are plain jane 5x7(8)s with 8 tie downs. they fit in a zip lock i111.photobucket.com/albums/n123/SOSprotus/P8060048.jpg desert night camo set ups like this arent the best but for light weight they cant be beat. i also use a bivy sacka nd even my .3miltrash bags as a foot pring. The green one went through 3 days of non stop fla rain with out fail! sucked but i stayed dry!

Do you sell these or do you know who does? Im in S FL so It's not like Im going to be exposed to cold temps (if Im lucky) Im looking mostly to keep me and my gear dry in our famous downpours

Originally Posted By protus: Originally Posted By Winston_Wolf: ... My inventory i see dbls and trips onsome items? i take this is along the  lines of an INCH bag? or multi-person? whats total weight or is it a dedicated BOV/BOL bag? thanks for the input fellas,

... Yes, I have a method to my madness. Although the BOB in this pic tips the scale just over 60# with the revolver & ammo she's ready to fly - into the truck that is. I will stay in my home until the moment I determine I can no longer sustain life there. After the truck becomes immobile, I can hump a "lean" version of pared down essentials.

... I do try to hump that heavy bastard once a week down to the local fire-station a mile away to remind me how heavy that fuck is - yeah, I get strange looks from canal-road joggers. All in all, the BOV/BOB has all necessary components to get by for a few days .  Aside from  the picture below, the truck has a minimum of 15 days of ammo, food, water & coffee - life essentials in my constitution.

Originally Posted By L0neGunman: Originally Posted By protus: Originally Posted By mustangracer: Originally Posted By protus: what saves weigh onmy end is i have no tent. i use the light weight tarps that i make as a hobby. they are all on avg under 6.5 OZ's.  i have two in this kit and they dont weigh over 9 oz's combined. and both are 5x8(7)'s. Could you possibly post up a pic of these, I think it's a great idea and a helluva lot lighter than a tent. this is one of the set ups. which im giving away as a present to a family memeber. 12oz with stakes and all. img.photobucket.com/albums/v54/protus/feb26.jpg img.photobucket.com/albums/v54/protus/decshelterfront.jpg 2nd one twice as big,, and 14.5 oz's loaded. img.photobucket.com/albums/v54/protus/may11.jpg the others are plain jane 5x7(8)s with 8 tie downs. they fit in a zip lock i111.photobucket.com/albums/n123/SOSprotus/P8060048.jpg desert night camo set ups like this arent the best but for light weight they cant be beat. i also use a bivy sacka nd even my .3miltrash bags as a foot pring. The green one went through 3 days of non stop fla rain with out fail! sucked but i stayed dry! Do you sell these or do you know who does? Im in S FL so It's not like Im going to be exposed to cold temps (if Im lucky) Im looking mostly to keep me and my gear dry in our famous downpours

i post em up now and then on the EE, but have slowed down alot. due to time restraints.
mostly build for personal use or tradeing.  I make them, and i know  Thereisnospoon( memeber here) makes them also.
If  not you can buy commercially built ones from campmor, REI, sportsmanguide etc etc

I was hiking in the pikes peak region with a light BOB and 90 oz of water, it was mostly food and water, with a knife and small equipment. I could feel the difference in weight right off the bat. 90 oz of water slows you down, now I'm in excellent shape, runner ect. maybe its just not being used to humping weight but a 60# pack would have been pretty freakin slow hike, not to mention a rifle and ammo. If I had to evade and escape I would want a lightweight pack! I would definatly want a way to acquire water and not try to carry it all with me. A good water purification system is NEXT on my list probably should have been first! But live and learn is the lesson from the hike. Saw four black bears, elk, and mule deer.

bump

nudge to the top (for great information)  

This should be tacked

+1 should definitely be tacked

glad to see it got tacked, thanks Waldo

Another tip for those that pack a tent and/or bed rolls. A cheap pool raft makes a great bed and can be stored pretty compact. Most are less than 8x8 and no more than 1" thick when packed. Also can be sacrificed for many other uses like if you get one of the ones with seperate air pockets it can be cut down and tied off to carry couple extra gallons of water.

Originally Posted By DeerStalker: Another tip for those that pack a tent and/or bed rolls. A cheap pool raft makes a great bed and can be stored pretty compact. Most are less than 8x8 and no more than 1" thick when packed. Also can be sacrificed for many other uses like if you get one of the ones with seperate air pockets it can be cut down and tied off to carry couple extra gallons of water.

These are extremely soft and comfy, but not very good at insulating...  If you live in the PNW like I do, you need better insulation than that...

Originally Posted By Vinosaur: NHGUNNER; Great example you gave.  I do think, that if you were forced to evacuate for a few days and could not get to your home, your employer would probably understand if you came to work in clean clothes.  Showing up and doing your job under difficult circumstances would far outweigh your clothing situation.  I'm sure they wouldn't appreciate bunny slippers and sponge bob square pants t-shirt, but since you obviously are concerned with your appearance (thinking about getting "work" clothes), this wouldn't be an issue. We are business casual at work, and most everyone wears jeans.  So if I were to show up in khaki bdu pants, it would not really raise any eyebrows.  If necessary, I could always do some laundry in the sink of the hotel.

i have worked in several hospitals and even retail ( wally world) in college.
when bad weather happens or incidents beyond control occur. management is just glad you show up and could care less what you are wearing. the dress codes normally are tossed aside for the duration of the issues at hand.

i have shown up for work at the hospitals wearing wranglers, danner boots and flannel shirts, during snow storms.

Originally Posted By colklink: I have been buying the zaterian (sp?) brand of preprepared rice at the market. They come in a small pouch, allready cooked so you can boil the pouch for a few minutes or eat cold if needed. Comes in different flavors, and so far I havent found one I didnt like. Also comes with bits of ham, sausage, etc in them, precooked. About two dollars per pouch at the foodlion or martins supermarkets around here.

zatarian rocks.
i remove the packages from the box and vacuum seal them, writing h20 instructions on the baggie with a sharpie. red beans and rice, dirty rice..

i dont think they can be beat.

Originally Posted By Winston_Wolf: ... I do try to hump that heavy bastard once a week down to the local fire-station a mile away to remind me how heavy that fuck is - yeah, I get strange looks from canal-road joggers.. img.photobucket.com/albums/v473/Winston_Wolf1/BOB.BOV.jpg

hahaha you ought to sling your rifle for your next run, i wonder what kind of looks you'll get then

j/k

great thread, lots of good info in here

I have gone waaaay overboard in the last few weeks. I have started 5 BOB's (Me, Wife, Daughter, 2 dogs). My bug out plans include my BOV and have a bunch of the extras in there ie. bed rolls, more food, more, water, and this also serves as a somewhat functioning GHB for the wife. 1 GHB for me. I travel for work and can be 200 miles from home. I have also started my Bug In preps as well. I only wish I could have found this thread 2 months ago. I have the dis/fortune of having 3 people to share the load, however much of my stuff is double and triple. I figured when finished the packs will be , me 45lbs, wife and child ~25lbs, dogs 5 on one 10 on the other. The cat is on his own. F him, he has shown his proficiency at mousing and the little bastard wont walk on a leash. There is a ton of great info, and am glad it is tacked. Is there any chance of getting it more streamlined and removing the bumps and tags?

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Originally Posted By EJSANDSTROM: I have gone waaaay overboard in the last few weeks. I have started 5 BOB's (Me, Wife, Daughter, 2 dogs). My bug out plans include my BOV and have a bunch of the extras in there ie. bed rolls, more food, more, water, and this also serves as a somewhat functioning GHB for the wife. 1 GHB for me. I travel for work and can be 200 miles from home. I have also started my Bug In preps as well. I only wish I could have found this thread 2 months ago. I have the dis/fortune of having 3 people to share the load, however much of my stuff is double and triple. I figured when finished the packs will be , me 45lbs, wife and child ~25lbs, dogs 5 on one 10 on the other. The cat is on his own. F him, he has shown his proficiency at mousing and the little bastard wont walk on a leash. There is a ton of great info, and am glad it is tacked. Is there any chance of getting it more streamlined and removing the bumps and tags?

He refuses to play "seeing eye cat", huh.

Did you get Dog boots?

I put together my first BOB when i was 15......always been the paranoid type people think im crazy sometimes....if CRAZY IS PREPARED THEN I WILL TAKE CRAZY

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