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Posted: 2/1/2020 3:06:13 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Oh, I've done the same and have presensitized PCBs and bags of rivets (as well as a CNC router) here to use, but I just started to use outside PCB suppliers a few months ago since it's so much easier. If I was really desperate I could get them made at Oshpark's US facility, but jlcpcb is sooo much cheaper and faster than anyone else I use them. I did a bake-off in the fall and jlcpcb had boards in my hands before anyone else had even started production. Then the virus hits... and there goes the schedule. At least my living doesn't depend on making the boards, I can't imagine how this is impacting the average worker in China financially. I was not excited by the CNY, and this additional 2+weeks downtime pushed me past my limit. I cancelled my order with pcbway (for store credit) and am trying out a South Korean company for not much more money per board, but I had to order higher quantity than I'd like. |
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Posted: 2/1/2020 8:14:44 AM EDT
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Dilute it down. Quote HistoryQuoted:
Quoted: Of note: 70% IPA is a better sanitizer than 91%. Here is a Primer on the topic: https://blog.gotopac.com/2017/05/15/why-is-70-isopropyl-alcohol-ipa-a-better-disinfectant-than-99-isopropanol-and-what-is-ipa-used-for/ |
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Posted: 2/1/2020 10:54:52 AM EDT
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Update from China:
- A contact inside Wuhan's medical community has said they estimate an additional 1500 cases/day are being identified - Estimates of 5 million people have escaped the quarantine area, which perhaps explains the rapid jump in cases contiguous to Wuhan EDIT: I have a question for you folks.... If this coronavirus stays alive on surfaces, is there a possible vector with Chinese manufactured goods coming into the US? What if someone coughs or spits on packaging or in an air freight shipping container? |
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Posted: 2/1/2020 10:56:48 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Of note: 70% IPA is a better sanitizer than 91%. Here is a Primer on the topic: https://blog.gotopac.com/2017/05/15/why-is-70-isopropyl-alcohol-ipa-a-better-disinfectant-than-99-isopropanol-and-what-is-ipa-used-for/ |
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Posted: 2/1/2020 11:27:30 AM EDT
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Update from China: - A contact inside Wuhan's medical community has said they estimate an additional 1500 cases/day are being identified - Estimates of 5 million people have escaped the quarantine area, which perhaps explains the rapid jump in cases contiguous to Wuhan EDIT: I have a question for you folks.... If this coronavirus stays alive on surfaces, is there a possible vector with Chinese manufactured goods coming into the US? What if someone coughs or spits on packaging or in an air freight shipping container? The number of 5 days is being recognized as how long it can live on a non porous surface, but I believe that is based on SARS, a virus on the same family. |
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Posted: 2/1/2020 1:12:53 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Yep. Easy to do (use sterile water if possible). |
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Posted: 2/1/2020 1:14:00 PM EDT
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Update from China: - A contact inside Wuhan's medical community has said they estimate an additional 1500 cases/day are being identified - Estimates of 5 million people have escaped the quarantine area, which perhaps explains the rapid jump in cases contiguous to Wuhan EDIT: I have a question for you folks.... If this coronavirus stays alive on surfaces, is there a possible vector with Chinese manufactured goods coming into the US? What if someone coughs or spits on packaging or in an air freight shipping container? |
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Posted: 2/1/2020 4:15:34 PM EDT
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Case in Boston.
https://www.nbcboston.com/news/local/first-reported-case-of-coronavirus-in-massachusetts/2070535/ 8 US cases 12,000 worldwide 259 deaths |
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Posted: 2/1/2020 4:52:13 PM EDT
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Has anybody else read this paper by several Indian Scientists that strongly supports the hypothesis that the coronavirus was manufactured?
Apparently the spike proteins have several points where HIV-1 proteins have been inserted. A few other things in there too and they dance around saying it outright, but the implications are that this thing is not a naturally evolved coronavirus. Also, Dr. John Campbell has some interesting insights on YouTube, look his channel up. He is saying that there is now evidence that virus remains in the system past recovery so people Re infectious before they get sick AND after they get better. |
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Posted: 2/1/2020 5:08:19 PM EDT
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Yep it has not been peer-reviewed. It is going to take time for a bunch of this info to get reviewed, but the more eyes on it the better. |
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Posted: 2/1/2020 5:13:45 PM EDT
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Has anybody else read this paper by several Indian Scientists that strongly supports the hypothesis that the coronavirus was manufactured? Apparently the spike proteins have several points where HIV-1 proteins have been inserted. A few other things in there too and they dance around saying it outright, but the implications are that this thing is not a naturally evolved coronavirus. Also, Dr. John Campbell has some interesting insights on YouTube, look his channel up. He is saying that there is now evidence that virus remains in the system past recovery so people Re infectious before they get sick AND after they get better. |
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Posted: 2/1/2020 5:47:03 PM EDT
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Or RO, pond, or tap. Quote HistoryQuoted:
Quoted: Yep. Easy to do (use sterile water if possible). 
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Posted: 2/1/2020 9:44:40 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted:
Has anybody else read this paper by several Indian Scientists that strongly supports the hypothesis that the coronavirus was manufactured? Apparently the spike proteins have several points where HIV-1 proteins have been inserted. A few other things in there too and they dance around saying it outright, but the implications are that this thing is not a naturally evolved coronavirus. Also, Dr. John Campbell has some interesting insights on YouTube, look his channel up. He is saying that there is now evidence that virus remains in the system past recovery so people Re infectious before they get sick AND after they get better. Here's the abstract from the study: "We are currently witnessing a major epidemic caused by the 2019 novel coronavirus (2019- nCoV). The evolution of 2019-nCoV remains elusive. We found 4 insertions in the spike glycoprotein (S) which are unique to the 2019-nCoV and are not present in other coronaviruses. Importantly, amino acid residues in all the 4 inserts have identity or similarity to those in the HIV-1 gp120 or HIV-1 Gag. Interestingly, despite the inserts being discontinuous on the primary amino acid sequence, 3D-modelling of the 2019-nCoV suggests that they converge to constitute the receptor binding site. The finding of 4 unique inserts in the 2019-nCoV, all of which have identity /similarity to amino acid residues in key structural proteins of HIV-1 is unlikely to be fortuitous in nature." The authors withdrew the preprint of the article b/c of the resulting conclusions stating, " It was not our intention to feed into the conspiracy theories and no such claims are made here." Plagerizing one of the comments to the article on biorxiv.org, "SARS Coronavirus and HIV minute similarity are mentioned in this research back in 2003. Link to 2003 study. ETA: For what its worth: Total confirmed: 14,491, Total Deaths: 305, Total Recovered: 339. |
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Posted: 2/1/2020 10:58:34 PM EDT
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Thanks Cacinok, interested they pulled it..wonder if it was under pressure.
I'll check out that 2003 doc too I was just listening to a taiwanese professor discussing it. |
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Posted: 2/2/2020 4:56:26 AM EDT
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Thanks Cacinok, interested they pulled it..wonder if it was under pressure. I'll check out that 2003 doc too I was just listening to a taiwanese professor discussing it. Releasing that info was dynamite! Regardless if true. Cat's out of the bag and the withdrawal is symbolic. |
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Posted: 2/2/2020 8:16:08 AM EDT
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Has anybody else read this paper by several Indian Scientists that strongly supports the hypothesis that the coronavirus was manufactured? Apparently the spike proteins have several points where HIV-1 proteins have been inserted. A few other things in there too and they dance around saying it outright, but the implications are that this thing is not a naturally evolved coronavirus. Also, Dr. John Campbell has some interesting insights on YouTube, look his channel up. He is saying that there is now evidence that virus remains in the system past recovery so people Re infectious before they get sick AND after they get better. https://www.biorxiv.org/content/10.1101/2020.01.30.927871v1.full.pdf still there as pdf if anyone hasn't seen it. |
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Posted: 2/2/2020 1:02:23 PM EDT
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USGOV is expanding plans to assist the evac of 200K American Citizens and emplacing quarantine procedures at March ARB, FT Carson, NAS Miramar, Lackland AFB, Travis AFB.
https://www.businessinsider.com/us-passengers-evacuated-wuhan-china-no-coronavirus-2020-1 |
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Posted: 2/2/2020 1:14:39 PM EDT
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USGOV is expanding plans to assist the evac of 200K American Citizens and emplacing quarantine procedures at March ARB, FT Carson, NAS Miramar, Lackland AFB, Travis AFB. https://www.businessinsider.com/us-passengers-evacuated-wuhan-china-no-coronavirus-2020-1 |
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Posted: 2/2/2020 1:18:54 PM EDT
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Article says 200 not 200k. ETA: Those plans are expanding. https://www.ibtimes.com/us-military-ready-house-1000-virus-quarantine-2914124 |
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Posted: 2/2/2020 1:29:43 PM EDT
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USGOV is expanding plans to assist the evac of 200K American Citizens and emplacing quarantine procedures at March ARB, FT Carson, NAS Miramar, Lackland AFB, Travis AFB. https://www.businessinsider.com/us-passengers-evacuated-wuhan-china-no-coronavirus-2020-1 |
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Posted: 2/2/2020 1:35:16 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Any news on FEMA Camps? HHS is the lead so far, and just the Mil bases listed is what I'm tracking. |
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Posted: 2/2/2020 1:38:10 PM EDT
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Posted: 2/2/2020 2:01:53 PM EDT
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Today's update:
1) The older guy I told you about who got sent to Wuhan when infected died. Sons are now under quarantine. Death certificate completed as "Natural Causes". Argument with physician but no change. Tells you all you need to know about the numbers coming out of China now. 2) Supplies of PPE gone...government is confiscating stockpiles that others have built - limit of 5 masks to a family. 3) Contact within Wuhan medical community...she estimates about 2k new cases per day inbound to the facilities that are already overwhelmed. 4) Lots of businesses shutting down inside and outside the quarantine area. 5) Estimates are that 5m people have left the quarantine area since the lockdown. Other news: 1) Dr. John Campbell has an interesting discussion on infectious periods before and after people feel ill - seems one of the reasons this spreads so fast is asymptomatic transmission before and after symptoms. 2) There is a lot of interesting dialog around this Indian paper. Nothing confirmed, but if this was a lab leak, wow, what a revelation and geopolitical event that will be. EDIT: On a side note, some folks have contacted me asking where I am getting my information. I will not reveal sources, but all direct contacts are people that I personally know, living in the area. I am trying to clearly state when quoting them whether it is their direct observation or when it is something they have heard from a relative, friend or in the news. Personally, I am 100% confident that the information I am giving you, when stated as a fact, IS a fact. When I say it's "heard on the street" then all bets are off. That's all for today, new cycle starts in China's morning, about 6 hours away. |
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Posted: 2/2/2020 2:07:14 PM EDT
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Why bother using sterilized water? First thing you're presumably going to do with the dilute solution is spray/wipe it on a contaminated surface anyway. Pond/tap water will be immediately disinfected by the nature of what you're doing. |
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Posted: 2/2/2020 3:28:24 PM EDT
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Why bother using sterilized water? First thing you're presumably going to do with the dilute solution is spray/wipe it on a contaminated surface anyway. Pond/tap water will be immediately disinfected by the nature of what you're doing. One important answer is "bioburden". The greater the bioburden (Colony Forming Units per mL of solution...or number of bugs per mL if you will), the more difficult something is to sanitize, or sterilize. The IPA doesn't instantly kill every bug. Killing microorganisms is a function of several factors including the initial bioburden, the d-value (kill difficulty of the microorganism), efficacy of the sanitizing/sterilizing solution (killing ability of the chemical we're using), the solution dose/concentration, temperature, moisture level and exposure time. To maintain the efficacy of the IPA you're diluting, dilutions should avoid adding unnecessary bio-load. Diluting with sterile water, (or boiled water from any source), will help keep the IPA effective at killing the bugs we want to kill. A second reason is that some spore forming bacteria (e.g. genus bacillus), if not killed by the IPA, will protect themselves by forming spores that are then spread with each use of the IPA (sometimes IPA is used as a storage solution to keep a spore former in the spore phase for storage and transportation). Keeping the bioburden low during dilution, will help ensure that we're not adding to the problem we're trying to solve. |
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Posted: 2/2/2020 3:48:32 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: I know, I'll release what I can, when I can. ETA: Those plans are expanding. https://www.ibtimes.com/us-military-ready-house-1000-virus-quarantine-2914124 |
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Posted: 2/2/2020 9:00:17 PM EDT
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I know, I'll release what I can, when I can. ETA: Those plans are expanding. https://www.ibtimes.com/us-military-ready-house-1000-virus-quarantine-2914124 Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Article says 200 not 200k. ETA: Those plans are expanding. https://www.ibtimes.com/us-military-ready-house-1000-virus-quarantine-2914124 |
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Posted: 2/2/2020 9:31:03 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Holy Shit! |
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Posted: 2/2/2020 10:11:06 PM EDT
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The 1,000 beds for quarantine the military will be providing is part of the cdc quarantine plans. They have it all listed on there website. There is 20 sites that are designated for this and all have the necessary supplies on hand.
When I worked with the dod we participated with dhs, fema and other agency’s on national size disaster exercises. Only two disaster scenarios scared me. They we’re long term power outages 6+ months and pandemics. Right now the dod cdc and fema are just going down there flow charts. All there reactions have been planned out years ago. The main thing I learned in the 8 years of participating in the exercises is to never trust what the government says. |
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Posted: 2/2/2020 10:41:27 PM EDT
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The 1,000 beds for quarantine the military will be providing is part of the cdc quarantine plans. They have it all listed on there website. There is 20 sites that are designated for this and all have the necessary supplies on hand. When I worked with the dod we participated with dhs, fema and other agency’s on national size disaster exercises. Only two disaster scenarios scared me. They we’re long term power outages 6+ months and pandemics. Right now the dod cdc and fema are just going down there flow charts. All there reactions have been planned out years ago. The main thing I learned in the 8 years of participating in the exercises is to never trust what the government says. |
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Posted: 2/3/2020 12:01:32 AM EDT
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Other news: 1) Dr. John Campbell has an interesting discussion on infectious periods before and after people feel ill - seems one of the reasons this spreads so fast is asymptomatic transmission before and after symptoms. 2) There is a lot of interesting dialog around this Indian paper. Nothing confirmed, but if this was a lab leak, wow, what a revelation and geopolitical event that will be. Not sure the value in this. Stumbled upon the guy in the following video, Dr. Paul Cottrell discussing the Indian paper. His bona fides are questionable - his bio states that he has published articles in “genomics, neurobiology, neurosurgery, endocrinology and microbiota”, I have not looked at those papers. In the video he breaks down the paper and talks about some similar theories he's been testing. I'll try to summarize some of what he says, he gets pretty deep in sequencing and microbiology, but he explains most things fairly well. If you watch some of his other videos, it's obvious that he occasionally wears a tin-foil hat (e.g., he references Event 201), but it appears his science is sound, hopefully, somebody with a better science background than me will watch it and chime in. His video actually connects some of the dots that we see appearing. If his research is supported by others, then there is no doubt that this was engineered as a bio-weapon. He states: -that the Indian study only looked at the ends of the protein strand but not much if anything in the middle, his research looked at the whole thing, -from his research and the Indian study, it is obvious that parts of the HIV strain were "dropped into" a "bat-SARS" strain, -it appears the purpose of combining HIV with the bat-SARS is to suppress the immune so that the bat-SARS can have a better effect - he adds support to this by stating that patients have been found to have suppressed white blood counts and T-cell counts, both of which fight virus - this is also why they have had some positive results using HIV meds to treat it, -he reiterates what the Indian study states, that the likelihood of HIV combining with bat-SARS on its own in nature is almost impossible, -he believes that whoever made this made a number of combinations of the HIV and bat-SARS and watched to see which became most virulent. Question appears to be whether this was released on purpose or somebody screwed-up big time. The screwed-up theory would explain why China quarantined 60 million people.  Failed To Load Title |
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Posted: 2/3/2020 12:09:39 AM EDT
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So nothing burger? I'm not surprised folks in China are dying.
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Posted: 2/3/2020 8:30:02 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted:
Stumbled upon the guy in the following video, Dr. Paul Cottrell discussing the Indian paper. His bona fides check out, in the video he breaks down the paper and talks about some similar theories he's been testing. I'll try to summarize some of what he says, he gets pretty deep in sequencing and microbiology, but he explains most things fairly well. If you watch some of his other videos, it's obvious that he occasionally wears a tin-foil hat (e.g., he references Event 201), but it appears his science is sound, hopefully, somebody with a better science background than me will watch it and chime in. His video actually connects some of the dots that we see appearing. If his research is supported by others, then there is no doubt that this was engineered as a bio-weapon. He states: -that the Indian study only looked at the ends of the protein strand but not much if anything in the middle, his research looked at the whole thing, -from his research and the Indian study, it is obvious that parts of the HIV strain were "dropped into" a "bat-SARS" strain, -it appears the purpose of combining HIV with the bat-SARS is to suppress the immune so that the bat-SARS can have a better effect - he adds support to this by stating that patients have been found to have suppressed white blood counts and T-cell counts, both of which fight virus - this is also why they have had some positive results using HIV meds to treat it, -he reiterates what the Indian study states, that the likelihood of HIV combining with bat-SARS on its own in nature is almost impossible, -he believes that whoever made this made a number of combinations of the HIV and bat-SARS and watched to see which became most virulent. Question appears to be whether this was released on purpose or somebody screwed-up big time. The screwed-up theory would explain why China quarantined 60 million people.  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zgR18GtO_1YQuote HistoryQuoted:
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Other news: 1) Dr. John Campbell has an interesting discussion on infectious periods before and after people feel ill - seems one of the reasons this spreads so fast is asymptomatic transmission before and after symptoms. 2) There is a lot of interesting dialog around this Indian paper. Nothing confirmed, but if this was a lab leak, wow, what a revelation and geopolitical event that will be. If his research is supported by others, then there is no doubt that this was engineered as a bio-weapon. He states: -that the Indian study only looked at the ends of the protein strand but not much if anything in the middle, his research looked at the whole thing, -from his research and the Indian study, it is obvious that parts of the HIV strain were "dropped into" a "bat-SARS" strain, -it appears the purpose of combining HIV with the bat-SARS is to suppress the immune so that the bat-SARS can have a better effect - he adds support to this by stating that patients have been found to have suppressed white blood counts and T-cell counts, both of which fight virus - this is also why they have had some positive results using HIV meds to treat it, -he reiterates what the Indian study states, that the likelihood of HIV combining with bat-SARS on its own in nature is almost impossible, -he believes that whoever made this made a number of combinations of the HIV and bat-SARS and watched to see which became most virulent. Question appears to be whether this was released on purpose or somebody screwed-up big time. The screwed-up theory would explain why China quarantined 60 million people. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zgR18GtO_1YHe is a DR because he has a PHD in Finance. He was pre-med in undergrad school, which is nothing more than a general science background. I was pre-med as an engineer, wait no I wasn't because I did not declare I was planning to go to med school, which is all pre-med means. He is currently going to Harvard for some biology type degree. He is a nobody, with no training and no experience except getting his face on youtube. he is not a medical doctor or even a PHD in any science discipline. He is not a genetic researcher or practitioner. He is a doctor of finance. If he had a video on how banks are going to respond to this and what will happen to the economy, I might watch, but realistically probably not because he is obviously an attention whore. |
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Posted: 2/3/2020 11:45:36 AM EDT
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Yep, looks like I didn’t dig deep enough into his credentials. His bio states that he has published articles in “genomics, neurobiology, neurosurgery, endocrinology and microbiota”. I didn’t look at any of those articles.
But that is why I put in the statements that I hoped somebody with a better science background would give their opinion and that if his theories were confirmed it would be huge. |
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Posted: 2/3/2020 12:10:13 PM EDT
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Yep, looks like I didn’t dig deep enough into his credentials. His bio states that he has published articles in “genomics, neurobiology, neurosurgery, endocrinology and microbiota”. I didn’t look at any of those articles. But that is why I put in the statements that I hoped somebody with a better science background would give their opinion and that if his theories were confirmed it would be huge. |
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Posted: 2/3/2020 12:31:27 PM EDT
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I have no idea abt the subject guy...
But folks might want to be careful in their analysis... Just because a person's DEGREE is NOT in a subject field.... Does not mean he isn't highly knowledgeable in it. Also--- so many times... The COROLLARY is also true. HI-IQ Idiots don't grow on trees for no reason. |
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Posted: 2/3/2020 12:33:50 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: This is basically why I ignore nearly all youtube videos made by single individuals. They are just trying to make a buck from their limited opinions. |
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Posted: 2/3/2020 12:37:58 PM EDT
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Folks are often ENAMOURED by the CREDENTIALS of foolish and stupid individuals. [And dishonest ones]
You see this constantly, because Gullible Groupies and folks having Shallow Thinking, are all around us. Enthralled and anxiously Bowing Down to ego driven dummies with Fancy Certificates. [And screen names] 
For instance, next time you see a .gov presentation on some critical issue, consider this. |
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Posted: 2/3/2020 1:22:28 PM EDT
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Quote Historylooks like we are saved, the death 362 and the 1700 infected is not rising.......
or no one is updating it
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Posted: 2/3/2020 1:31:16 PM EDT
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I have no idea abt the subject guy... But folks might want to be careful in their analysis... Just because a person's DEGREE is NOT in a subject field.... Does not mean he isn't highly knowledgeable in it. Also--- so many times... The COROLLARY is also true. HI-IQ Idiots don't grow on trees for no reason. I understand the overarching theory the guy is presenting, but not the minutia. Hopefully someone in the know will chime in. |
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Posted: 2/3/2020 1:35:21 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: This is basically why I ignore nearly all youtube videos made by single individuals. They are just trying to make a buck from their limited opinions. |
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Posted: 2/3/2020 1:43:35 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: looks like we are saved, the death 362 and the 1700 infected is not rising....... or no one is updating it Here is another site that tracks the totals, but also has updated and footnoted stats on R0, Case Fatality Rate, incubation period and other helpful info. |
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Posted: 2/3/2020 2:17:52 PM EDT
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Folks are often ENAMOURED by the CREDENTIALS of foolish and stupid individuals. [And dishonest ones] You see this constantly, because Gullible Groupies and folks having Shallow Thinking, are all around us. Enthralled and anxiously Bowing Down to ego driven dummies with Fancy Certificates. [And screen names]
For instance, next time you see a .gov presentation on some critical issue, consider this. But in the case where I have no knowledge to ascertain whether someone is telling the truth or not in a very technical subject, I will lean towards the people that have established credentials, an area like genome analysis and RNA viruses qualifies as one of these subject matters in my mind. He could be 100% correct or he could be 100% wrong, I have no way to know. ETA: the fact that he chose to wear a Harvard sweatshirt when he is enrolled and not graduated,( and not a college kid, but calling himself a doctor without PHD after his name ) tells me he is an attention whore and is intentionally misrepresenting his credentials and expertise. |
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Posted: 2/3/2020 3:51:08 PM EDT
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Folks are often ENAMOURED by the CREDENTIALS of foolish and stupid individuals. [And dishonest ones] You see this constantly, because Gullible Groupies and folks having Shallow Thinking, are all around us. Enthralled and anxiously Bowing Down to ego driven dummies with Fancy Certificates. [And screen names]
For instance, next time you see a .gov presentation on some critical issue, consider this. Too many 'Peer-Reviewed' papers are reviewed for the purpose of whoring the review for a return review in kind. The Peer Review system is not unlike fiction authors contributing blurbs for other authors so they can get favorable reviews on their own stuff. |
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Posted: 2/4/2020 12:34:00 AM EDT
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I have to say that, for me, both Medcram and Dr. John Campbell stand out as sources I will continue to use....why?
1 - Neither pontificates, they just state facts 2 - They provide educational background that is not tied to a specific outcome, usually teach the mechanisms/underlying principles behind stuff and very rarely do they guess and if they do they say so clearly. 3 - I've validated what I can to ensure that the mechanisms, background, etc... are true Nobody can fully credentialize anybody on the internet. When I share something, I believe in it. You can use that to credentialize me to a certain degree. More to come from China soon |
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Posted: 2/4/2020 8:55:44 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Nobody can fully credentialize anybody on the internet. IE, take for example, a doctor. You can look up his pre-med, med-school, etc. You can look up his employer (and past employers). But it's highly unlikely that you'll be able to find out that in 2004 his employer sent him to an infectious diseases symposium, and in 2009 he took a Doctor's Without Borders trip to Africa. Those aspects can most certainly shape and form the analytical approach they take to these complex problems. So, we do the best we can and the rest is a crap-shoot. And even if they are the most credentialed person in the world, they're still a human, and humans are not infallible. |
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Posted: 2/4/2020 11:41:20 AM EDT
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as we are living in the day of the spin dr.
all I can think of is the commander in chief's "fake news" if all this is true... I bet the numbers are way way larger than reported!! our govt has always said during training that the reported numbers are always behind the right now numbers... dr's in the true outbreak areas are burred in work.. they may not get the true reports out for months... usa cdc does ok … but they do shield the public to prevent mass hysteria.. on the fun side this does make for a good movie plot!! so how many folks do we have here in the states that are patient zero?? or patient 1m that have the bug... but are passing it on?? the cool thing as far as if it was a bio weapon... it could be an pandemic before it is realized.. like a sneak attack!! most of the bugs evolve.. mutate or just plain hide... till the infected person is stressed...' then whamo!! it is out worse than ever!! I still think this is a planned event.... culling of the herd... play safe!! watch, listen, and follow your instinct!! |
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Posted: 2/4/2020 12:25:03 PM EDT
[#48]
Minor semi-related update. While this is tech stuff I think it reflects how serious this is getting.
I woke up this morning to a tindie order (fulfilled out of China) from mid-January getting auto-refunded for failure to ship. It's a bit more significant than it seems because it was the tindie for a well-know OEM supplier (NiceRF for the curious.) No explanation was given so it's possible it's unrelated to the virus. I'd submitted two PCB orders in mid January, one involving assembly and one not, to the Chinese board manufacturer. The easier of the two (boards only) has been stuck at 80% complete for 5 days now (1 day turn board.) They're claiming that they were resuming basic PCB manufacturing yesterday but there's no evidence that happened. This morning they updated their main page and production virus update with: ...Meanwhile, international logistics like DHL service will temporarily be suspended till February 9(officially resume on February 10). Registered Mail will resume operation on February 3... to the US easily in any reasonable time frame. |
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Posted: 2/4/2020 12:38:25 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted:
Minor semi-related update. While this is tech stuff I think it reflects how serious this is getting. I woke up this morning to a tindie order (fulfilled out of China) from mid-January getting auto-refunded for failure to ship. It's a bit more significant than it seems because it was the tindie for a well-know OEM supplier (NiceRF for the curious.) No explanation was given so it's possible it's unrelated to the virus. I'd submitted two PCB orders in mid January, one involving assembly and one not, to the Chinese board manufacturer. The easier of the two (boards only) has been stuck at 80% complete for 5 days now (1 day turn board.) They're claiming that they were resuming basic PCB manufacturing yesterday but there's no evidence that happened. This morning they updated their main page and production virus update with: They've also shut down most of their operations until 2/10. With no DHL there's really no way to get product to the US easily in any reasonable time frame. I had the order with PCBWay (sounds like you used JLC?), and they are 500 miles from Wuhan. They are closed until the 10th, maybe longer. The backlog will be significant. |
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Posted: 2/4/2020 12:43:33 PM EDT
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Here is a link to an electronics manufacturing forum thread that has some good insight and info.
https://www.eevblog.com/forum/manufacture/ I think that what is going on with manufacturers is significant, as *all* electronics are either directly sourced from (manufactured and assembled) in China, or at least the vast majority of components come from China. If this virus gets out of hand over there, the ripple effects on goods availability could be, shall we say, interesting. A quote from that link by a poster that I think is fair and accurate: I see the globalized economy like a long train of nations with two locomotives: In the front, there is the US pulling the train, with most of the world's demand (by a single country, one can argue that the whole EU is a larger market). On the rear, there is another locomotive, China, pushing the world's supply. Either one of those locomotives stops, and the whole train (the whole world) will stop. If not completely, at least to a crawl. |
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