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5/3/2017 10:27:50 AM EDT
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Will the second civil war turn violent?  What kind of dumbass question is that?

If it ain't violent it ain't a war.

Maybe we can call it the Second Civil Frolick In The Streets With Rainbows, Unicorns, and Ice Cream.
5/3/2017 11:57:35 AM EDT
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Will the second civil war turn violent?  What kind of dumbass question is that?

If it ain't violent it ain't a war.

Maybe we can call it the Second Civil Frolick In The Streets With Rainbows, Unicorns, and Ice Cream.
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Wow.  Maybe you should try reading the article instead of just the headline?  War comes in many shapes and sizes and not all of them involve open combat.  Actually, in many ways that article was written for folks just like you.  The first step on the path to winning a war is understanding you’re in one.
5/3/2017 12:01:01 PM EDT
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Wow.  Maybe you should try reading the article instead of just the headline?  War comes in many shapes and sizes and not all of them involve open combat.  Actually, in many ways that article was written for folks just like you.  The first step on the path to winning a war is understanding you’re in one.
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Exactly!
5/3/2017 2:50:36 PM EDT
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Any of the "Battle of Berkley" threads in GD will show you that it already has turned violent and right wing groups are fighting back.  The right is forming self defense groups to fight antifa in the streets.  History tells us this will escalate.

See the "Fraternal Order of Alt Knights" lead by Kyle Chapman as just one example.  What is interesting is that /pol/ seems to be acting in the roll of intelligence collection and analysis.  That ispretty significant to have such a capability so early in a civil war and gives the right one hell of an advantage.
5/3/2017 4:19:09 PM EDT
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Any of the "Battle of Berkley" threads in GD will show you that it already has turned violent and right wing groups are fighting back.  The right is forming self defense groups to fight antifa in the streets.  History tells us this will escalate.
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Quite true.  There are always ideological wars and we have had ours for decades; however, the battles have been mostly political and non-violent rhetoric.  Those political fights are now manifesting into physical violence where social media, Hollywood, the education system, and special interest groups are fueling and feeding those fires...it will escalate.  I know the terms fascists, Nazi's, etc. get thrown around, but it's becoming increasingly clear that the Left are using those tactics and if they do get back into power, how much more will they leverage their intolerance, hate and violence?  Trump isn't creating any of this, he's just the excuse for their behavior and actions of hate.

The whackos on the Left are just waiting for any excuse to blow-up and escalate their violence and the media, liberal/socialist politicians, selfish elites and our Hollywood culture are complicit in stoking the fires.  Stay vigilant.  It may not be your typical "war", but it could turn ugly real quick with just the right spark as an excuse.

ROCK6
5/3/2017 5:54:06 PM EDT
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Good for a few giggles:

Antifa wants combat training and firearms after losing the ‘Battle for Berkeley’
5/3/2017 8:12:24 PM EDT
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Quite true.  There are always ideological wars and we have had ours for decades; however, the battles have been mostly political and non-violent rhetoric.  Those political fights are now manifesting into physical violence where social media, Hollywood, the education system, and special interest groups are fueling and feeding those fires...it will escalate.  I know the terms fascists, Nazi's, etc. get thrown around, but it's becoming increasingly clear that the Left are using those tactics and if they do get back into power, how much more will they leverage their intolerance, hate and violence?  Trump isn't creating any of this, he's just the excuse for their behavior and actions of hate.

The whackos on the Left are just waiting for any excuse to blow-up and escalate their violence and the media, liberal/socialist politicians, selfish elites and our Hollywood culture are complicit in stoking the fires.  Stay vigilant.  It may not be your typical "war", but it could turn ugly real quick with just the right spark as an excuse.

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This is absolutely true.
5/4/2017 1:04:02 AM EDT
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Good article.  I think it can still be nipped in the bud.  Arrest Soros, Hitlery and shut down Soros' NGOs that fund the anarchists/commies.  Seize the funds in the Klinton Foundation too.   As for the media, CNN can have it's license revoked.  It's propaganda.
5/4/2017 8:23:03 AM EDT
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Good article.  I think it can still be nipped in the bud.  Arrest Soros, Hitlery and shut down Soros' NGOs that fund the anarchists/commies.  Seize the funds in the Klinton Foundation too.   As for the media, CNN can have it's license revoked.  It's propaganda.
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This except the slippery slope part.
5/4/2017 9:22:34 AM EDT
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Good article.  I think it can still be nipped in the bud.  Arrest Soros, Hitlery and shut down Soros' NGOs that fund the anarchists/commies.  Seize the funds in the Klinton Foundation too.   As for the media, CNN can have it's license revoked.  It's propaganda.
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While I would be tickled pink to see this happen, there is zero chance that any of it will take place. They won't even bring charges against Hillary or Huma for very clear federal offenses regarding handling of classified information, so there is no chance whatsoever that they'd actually take down her racket. Soros and his money are safe and would simply go somewhere else if the heat got turned up, and CNN is practically untouchable - they can't even kick them out of the WH pool. And the swamp remains blissfully undrained, witness the latest omnibus currently making its way through Congress.

The real damage is the brainwashing of the next generation of the nation's workers and leadership. That can't be undone. A nation of spoiled, selfish snowflake idiots demanding handouts and sensitivity training for thee isn't going to do well, I think.
5/4/2017 9:55:36 AM EDT
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Quite true.  There are always ideological wars and we have had ours for decades; however, the battles have been mostly political and non-violent rhetoric.  Those political fights are now manifesting into physical violence where social media, Hollywood, the education system, and special interest groups are fueling and feeding those fires...it will escalate. I know the terms fascists, Nazi's, etc. get thrown around, but it's becoming increasingly clear that the Left are using those tactics and if they do get back into power, how much more will they leverage their intolerance, hate and violence?  Trump isn't creating any of this, he's just the excuse for their behavior and actions of hate.

The whackos on the Left are just waiting for any excuse to blow-up and escalate their violence and the media, liberal/socialist politicians, selfish elites and our Hollywood culture are complicit in stoking the fires.  Stay vigilant.  It may not be your typical "war", but it could turn ugly real quick with just the right spark as an excuse.

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Openly so.
http://www.foxnews.com/us/2017/05/04/anti-trump-course-at-butler-university-offers-strategies-for-resistance.html

Just for reference...

18 U.S. Code § 2385 - Advocating overthrow of Government
Current through Pub. L. 114-38. (See Public Laws for the current Congress.)
Whoever knowingly or willfully advocates, abets, advises, or teaches the duty, necessity, desirability, or propriety of overthrowing or destroying the government of the United States or the government of any State, Territory, District or Possession thereof, or the government of any political subdivision therein, by force or violence, or by the assassination of any officer of any such government; or
Whoever, with intent to cause the overthrow or destruction of any such government, prints, publishes, edits, issues, circulates, sells, distributes, or publicly displays any written or printed matter advocating, advising, or teaching the duty, necessity, desirability, or propriety of overthrowing or destroying any government in the United States by force or violence, or attempts to do so; or
Whoever organizes or helps or attempts to organize any society, group, or assembly of persons who teach, advocate, or encourage the overthrow or destruction of any such government by force or violence; or becomes or is a member of, or affiliates with, any such society, group, or assembly of persons, knowing the purposes thereof—
Shall be fined under this title or imprisoned not more than twenty years, or both, and shall be ineligible for employment by the United States or any department or agency thereof, for the five years next following his conviction.
If two or more persons conspire to commit any offense named in this section, each shall be fined under this title or imprisoned not more than twenty years, or both, and shall be ineligible for employment by the United States or any department or agency thereof, for the five years next following his conviction.
As used in this section, the terms “organizes” and “organize”, with respect to any society, group, or assembly of persons, include the recruiting of new members, the forming of new units, and the regrouping or expansion of existing clubs, classes, and other units of such society, group, or assembly of persons. (June 25, 1948, ch. 645, 62 Stat. 808; July 24, 1956, ch. 678, §2, 70 Stat. 623; Pub. L. 87–486, June 19, 1962, 76 Stat. 103; Pub. L. 103–322, title XXXIII, § 330016(1)(N), Sept. 13, 1994, 108 Stat. 2148.)
5/4/2017 10:11:14 AM EDT
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This except the slippery slope part.
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Yes it is censorship of propaganda.  Even if this course is not followed, the 2012 law authorizing the American government to use propaganda on us should be repealed.
5/4/2017 12:54:50 PM EDT
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It's funny how "freedom of speech" only serves one side.  If my son utters "gun" in school, he would likely get arrested, yet we have higher levels of "education" offering strategies on subversion and treasonous activities.  What were the signs of Biblical Apocalypse?

ROCK6
5/8/2017 2:59:26 AM EDT
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Quite true.  There are always ideological wars and we have had ours for decades; however, the battles have been mostly political and non-violent rhetoric.  Those political fights are now manifesting into physical violence where social media, Hollywood, the education system, and special interest groups are fueling and feeding those fires...it will escalate.  I know the terms fascists, Nazi's, etc. get thrown around, but it's becoming increasingly clear that the Left are using those tactics and if they do get back into power, how much more will they leverage their intolerance, hate and violence?  Trump isn't creating any of this, he's just the excuse for their behavior and actions of hate.

The whackos on the Left are just waiting for any excuse to blow-up and escalate their violence and the media, liberal/socialist politicians, selfish elites and our Hollywood culture are complicit in stoking the fires.  Stay vigilant.  It may not be your typical "war", but it could turn ugly real quick with just the right spark as an excuse.

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Rock, you ask how much more they will leverage intolerance, hate and violence? They appear to be willing to:
1) Suspend your first and second amendment rights
2) Selectively use and twist the law based on purely political motives to make those who don't think like you into criminals
3) Engage in false reporting, coverups and lies in a massive disinformation campaign to control the citizens
4) Intimidate you with the IRS and whatever other official oppression they can muster
5) Physically attack those who are strong enough to speak up
6) Twist the election process, ensuring only a preferred candidate is presented to the people while smearing any opponents

I'm not sure how much more they can leverage.  Sounds more like Stalinist Russia or Tehran than America.  And what is sick is that this is what we know...who knows what else they are doing.

But I think at least 3% of the frogs are jumping out of the pot....we'll see what happens.
5/8/2017 3:16:28 AM EDT
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The real damage is the brainwashing of the next generation of the nation's workers and leadership. That can't be undone. A nation of spoiled, selfish snowflake idiots demanding handouts and sensitivity training for thee isn't going to do well, I think.
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According to my kids (in their late 20's now...) most of their friends and acquaintances are independent to right-leaning.  Seems to be a backlash amongst the majority in their eyes...not sure if that is just an impression they have but they are both quite clear on it.  They went to differnent colleges and now live in even different cities.  Hope they are right.
5/8/2017 8:32:09 AM EDT
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RoadWarrior,

I worked a stint at a Job Corps facility, and that experience has forever soured my opinion on the millennial generation. What I've seen at college campuses has only reinforced my opinion, and most polling tends to back it up. The snowflakes are real, and that mentality is very widespread among that generation. Of course there are exceptions, but that generation is largely fucked IMHO.
5/8/2017 8:53:22 AM EDT
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It used to be that we, whether L or R, would assume that politicians would make at least a facial attempt to do their jobs.  Mayors and governors direct the police to use force to maintain some level of civil tranquility.  That is out the window.  We have Mayors proudly proclaiming that she used her police power to give rioters a safe place to riot.  We have a Mayor who rather openly gave stand-down orders to the police department when rioters were attacking peaceful protesters.

Really, you don't have to have a top quartile IQ to figure out what happens next.  The peaceful protesters understand that the government will not protect them from rioters.  The peaceful protesters will take self-defense into their own hands.  The rioters will understand that sticks and rocks may not be enough to terrorize their enemies, and will up the ante.

Our former Dear Leader said, "They bring a knife, we bring a gun."  That's the democRat way.  It is unfolding just as they planned.