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11/12/2016 10:44:09 AM EDT
Hi All,
I have 4 20L Jerry cans that I wanted to keep full. They are new and unused from Deutsche Optik. Anyway,

Does anyone store them inside an attached garage?
Does it matter what grade of gas?(octane)
Any other considerations?

This would probably be for vehicle use. I did buy gas stabilizer from Home Depot.

Thanks
11/12/2016 11:18:14 AM EDT
[#1]
I have a few Jerry cans and just add Stabyl to them when filling.  Actually, I even have gas either mixed with oil (for the two-stroke stuff) and not that I poured from there sitting in the tools' tanks (lawn mower, weed whacker, generator, etc.) sitting there for the whole year, or more and they all work fine.

Gas is the standard ethanol mix crap they sell here in WA.





11/12/2016 11:20:24 AM EDT
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I don't think octane matters in terms of stability.  I would only suggest trying to fill them as much as you reasonably can.  The less air inside, the less degradation of the gas.  I've kept gas sealed and unopened in those cans for years without issue.  When I do rotate, I mix it with fresh gas to hedge my bets (like adding 10 gallons of stored gas to a 20 gallon car gas tank).  I add Stabil, but many people say preservative isn't necessary.
11/12/2016 11:46:42 AM EDT
[#3]
Thanks for the replies.
What do you think about keeping them inside an attached garage?
11/12/2016 12:20:50 PM EDT
[#4]
Octane does matter for stability.  The higher the octane the longer you can store it while it degrades w/out affecting your usability in most common small engines.  IE: Small engines don't need 93 or 91 octane but that 93 octane may only be 90 after xMonths.
I hate STABIL and many many others do too.  I won't go into this as it's a love or hate type deal that can be read about via Google :) I use SeaFoam.
Here's what I do.
I have 8 of those metal cans.  I use 2 for Diesel and 6 for Gas.



- I fill them to 4.65 to 4.75G each to make tipping and purring the fuel out easiest and safest.



- For the GAS I add 1/4 can of SeaFoam to each can.



- I store them in a shady location.  For me this is in multiple spots as I have multiple gas engines to fill and don't want to hike around to fill up.  I store some outside on the shady side of the shop, I store some in the woodshed area, and some in misc other locations.



- They should not leak any air when new but the seals in the cap may get old and cause leaks so keep an eye on that



- For the Diesel cans I'll add some of the Diesel winter or 'boost they're in WHITE and GREY bottles I forget the brand / name but it's at Wal-Mart, TSC, etc... very common



- Diesel gets rotated rather quickly since the tractor will take 15G and I go in spurts of using that for hours/days on end then not for weeks... I wish I had a 100G+ Diesel Tank but this works for now.
 
 
 
11/12/2016 12:21:27 PM EDT
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...continued due to length
I've never had 'bad' gas with this method and usually it gets rotated in
3mo to 8mo depending on time of year and how busy things are... in fall
/ early winter (ie: now) I will not treat the fuel as I'm going through
it rather quickly in the ATV, Wood Splitter, Chain Saws, blower, etc...

You could store it indoors (garage/basement/etc) but I would not advise storing them in there.
The metal cans will expand in heat too so I prefer to keep them in a
cool, dark/shared place to make them and the fuel last as long as
possible :)






 
11/12/2016 12:23:02 PM EDT
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Might see what, if anything, your homeowner insurance might to say have about stored gasoline.  I have always used a separate outbuilding or storage unit for multiple containers.

Nick
11/12/2016 1:01:05 PM EDT
[#7]
I would prefer to.store the gas away from a attached garage if at all possible. That said, my attached garage has two cars and a riding mower inside it.....so that's about 50 gallons of gas if the tanks are full.

I put PRI G in my gas. It has some products in it that are actually used in the fuel industry as preservatives. I keep the gas stored for up to 2 years at a time. Smells just as fresh when I pour it into the tank as when I filled them up.

The biggest secret to long life of fuel is protecting it from exposure to the air. It's not ethanol in fuel that causes fuel to deteriorate.  It's evaporation of the volatile substances in the gas. Keep that from happening and your gas will last for years even without stabilizers.

If I was the OP, if I couldn't store gas away from the house, I would just store it in metal NATO cans inside the garage. If you could one day get a detached storage shed that would be a better location for storing gas but I would still store the gas inside my attached garage if that was my only option.

Double check the gaskets on the DO cans. I have some and they came with some pink gaskets. The pink gaskets swell with exposure to gasoline. If you do have pink gaskets, order some of the correct gaskets online before storing gas in the cans. The DO cans are just fine otherwise.
11/12/2016 2:04:28 PM EDT
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They are probably the best can around if you were to do this, but I'd prefer not to keep gas in an attached structure.
11/12/2016 5:12:49 PM EDT
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I've heard good things about PRI G too.





Those pink seals are interesting that's for sure.  I have the DO cans with the pink gaskets and while gas does cause them to swell mine have looked 'bad' but sealed just fine for 2+ years now (owned for around 8) but the 2 I've used for Diesel for 3 years or less are in MUCH worse condition than the gas ones (they also don't leak either).





I got some replacement seals (black) but they were not for my neck/cap style, I didn't notice when ordering.  Where do you suggest getting the proper ones for the DO cans? (I got my cans from DO direct many years ago before they went to the weird/wide style.)
I would feel safer storing inside with  Scepter MFC, but they're even more $ and harder to acquire depending where you're at... (WORTH IT)





11/12/2016 5:38:34 PM EDT
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11/12/2016 5:40:46 PM EDT
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They are probably the best can around if you were to do this, but I'd prefer not to keep gas in an attached structure.
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They are probably the best can around if you were to do this, but I'd prefer not to keep gas in an attached structure.

dont store it inside


I have some stored underground outside under a "fake deck" but for most storage needs a deck box works wonderfully
11/12/2016 8:43:56 PM EDT
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I hate STABIL and many many others do too.  I won't go into this as it's a love or hate type deal that can be read about via Google :) I use SeaFoam.

 






There's no about it...



I've successfully used (and known and seen others) use SeaFoam direct in intake or vac line to smooth out idles (small engines to vehicles), as well as noted preserving fuel with absolutely 0 problems.



Not something I tried one year ago but 10+ year experience using it first hand on engines from vehicles down to lawn mowers.  I've yet to not get the expected result.



If STABIL works for you keep using it, I've had and heard of way too many people having problems with their fuel even after 6-8MO using STABIL.  I've heard the MARINE STABIL is much better than the normal STABIL but I haven't had any reason to change.



Nothing is magic that's for sure... well, except maybe some of those seal/gasket expanding additives that stuff can be magical at times LOL!!
 
11/12/2016 9:34:35 PM EDT
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I have a 55 gal drum of 87 oct treated with Seafoam and Chevron Techron. I rotate it out every 2 years. I mainly have it for my generators.



Once the 2 years is up I use it in lawn mowers and my Trailbalzer with no issues. Been doing this for 6 years now.
11/13/2016 7:37:02 AM EDT
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I would just put your stock into a regular rotation with your daily driver. Every couple of months would be sufficient.
11/13/2016 8:37:39 AM EDT
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There's no about it...

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I don't use either because they are both useless in their claims. There has never been objective "proof" it works.

If you want to clean your engine, shoot some water in the intake

I posted because you discredit one magic potion but laud another-ironic isn't it.