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2/1/2015 11:53:48 AM EDT
You're at home, the power has been out for 9 days in your area due to a massive wind storm. There is allegedly relief forces in the area, but the damaged area is so large you haven't seen any yet. Most of the structures in your immediate area are still standing, including your house, however areas within a 1 hour walk are devastated. The power is out, the water is out, and there is no natural gas available from the utility line. You and your family are uninjured, however you have a injured elderly female neighbor with you.

A knock on the door puts you looking at a 14 year old overweight girl, and a 7-8 year old boy. You have never seen them before. They are asking for water and food or anything you can spare. The boy looks like he has recently been crying. At the end of the driveway is a military aged male you have also never seen before, who appears unarmed. A few houses up is a parked van with at least two people in it, both appear to be adult males. Everybody looks calm but they all seem to have their heads on a swivel, except for the girl and the boy.

What is your reaction?
2/1/2015 11:58:25 AM EDT
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Refer them to the nearest relief or shelter which you say exist even though you haven't personally seen them.
The people at your door aren't from your immediate area and I don't see that you owe anything to everyone who knocks on your door
2/1/2015 12:01:59 PM EDT
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Arm yourself and help as best you can keeping other potential threats at bay as best you can. Or.. Just tell everyone to go die somewhere else, not my problem. There is no handbook. Choose wisely !
2/1/2015 1:36:25 PM EDT
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Were do you guys come up with these wet-dream prepper fantasies?
2/1/2015 4:16:17 PM EDT
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9 DAYS is not long enough for them to starve. Hushedly tell them that the entire neighborhood is under surveillance and there's a sniper pulling a bead on them. whisper to them to return to the van and tell the men to call out their intentions from the road and someone will be along shortly to help them.

Then back out, get out of sight and call your armed neighborhood rapid reaction force on your eneloop charged gmrs walkie talkie or shoot up a bottle rocket as signal for a mag dump.
2/1/2015 4:20:26 PM EDT
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OP, I have to ask, why did you answer the door in the first place?  Were you hoping it was someone offering a Free One-Room Carpet Shampoo?
2/1/2015 4:29:01 PM EDT
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2/1/2015 4:31:47 PM EDT
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Video games?


2/1/2015 4:42:25 PM EDT
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Shorten the duration to about six days and this is a reality I have been through a few times over the last ten years or so. Ya'll not have tornadoes and wind storms in Arizona?
2/1/2015 5:05:50 PM EDT
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Shorten the duration to about six days and this is a reality I have been through a few times over the last ten years or so. Ya'll not have tornadoes and wind storms in Arizona?
From a localized twister: Aren't we still human? Aren't we still civilized? I would help my neighbors. I would get them something to eat and water to drink, but I would have them eat/drink right there.

 



Mad Max scenario: all bets are off.
2/1/2015 5:12:04 PM EDT
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If I don't know you I don't open the door.
2/1/2015 5:15:34 PM EDT
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Shorten the duration to about six days and this is a reality I have been through a few times over the last ten years or so. Ya'll not have tornadoes and wind storms in Arizona?


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2/1/2015 6:24:31 PM EDT
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Not to open the door.  If the "Military age man" tries to come in, they will end up on a pike as a warning to others.
2/1/2015 6:58:00 PM EDT
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How did they get past the concertina wire and claymores? It has been 9 days! Have you not been filling hescoes and stringing wire?
2/1/2015 7:03:41 PM EDT
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Is the theory that this is some sort of trick?
2/1/2015 7:12:50 PM EDT
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Wind storm? Throw em some stuff and point them to the shelter. Not really a tough one.

What is military age lol....17 to 60. Pretty much a useless description for future fiction/
2/1/2015 7:25:48 PM EDT
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Give them a couple of bottle of water.  Maybe some crackers or something you can spare.  

Send them on their way.
2/1/2015 10:15:42 PM EDT
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No, not really. That's why we live here.
2/1/2015 10:24:30 PM EDT
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I typically open the door, while armed. When I do I make sure somebody in the room has a rifle. That is what I did in this case. After seeing the totality of the situation I politely but firmly told them I had nothing to spare, and for them to move along. Typically after a big storm we get folks out bumming for anything they can get. Normally it starts with asking for food or water, then it progresses to cash, and a lot of the time they want to come in and warm up or use the bathroom. At that point your fucked. Best to nip in it the bud from the get go.
2/2/2015 12:32:30 AM EDT
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Ham radio or just am/fm radio should be able to tell you where to send the van.



Puppies doing their job should mean no one gets close to the place without lots of barking.



Knocks on doors are a thing of the past.



I keep cutting my picture out of the dictionary but it keeps showing up under paranoid.  Not sure why it is there, and I keep wondering where they get all those pics.



While I am on a busy 2 lane highway everyone calls or texts before just dropping by.  150 lbs or so of puppies apparently makes an impression.  Love the pups.
2/2/2015 12:57:26 AM EDT
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2/2/2015 1:18:19 AM EDT
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2/2/2015 1:37:40 AM EDT
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I typically open the door, while armed. When I do I make sure somebody in the room has a rifle. That is what I did in this case. After seeing the totality of the situation I politely but firmly told them I had nothing to spare, and for them to move along. Typically after a big storm we get folks out bumming for anything they can get. Normally it starts with asking for food or water, then it progresses to cash, and a lot of the time they want to come in and warm up or use the bathroom. At that point your fucked. Best to nip in it the bud from the get go.
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I typically open the door, while armed. When I do I make sure somebody in the room has a rifle. That is what I did in this case. After seeing the totality of the situation I politely but firmly told them I had nothing to spare, and for them to move along. Typically after a big storm we get folks out bumming for anything they can get. Normally it starts with asking for food or water, then it progresses to cash, and a lot of the time they want to come in and warm up or use the bathroom. At that point your fucked. Best to nip in it the bud from the get go.



Congrats, it took you less than 12 hours to come up with your own answer to your fantasy situation.
2/2/2015 3:18:54 AM EDT
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Wonder how they got to the door of my atomic fortress-zeppelin






2/2/2015 2:45:27 PM EDT
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2/2/2015 3:10:05 PM EDT
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You're at home, the power has been out for 9 days in your area due to a massive wind storm.  There is allegedly relief forces in the area, but the damaged area is so large you haven't seen any yet. Most of the structures in your immediate area are still standing, including your house, however areas within a 1 hour walk are devastated
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make some more french toast.

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2/2/2015 3:35:23 PM EDT
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Heck, around North Texas if there is an impacting tornado they have to setup road blocks to keep the spontaneous volunteers OUT of the affected area and get them organized first. People come out of the woodwork wanting to offer help and assistance. There is also a certain element that tries to ride that wave to get into areas to take advantage of the situation.

I volunteer for a couple disaster relief groups and from 1st hand experience there is plenty of food & water to go around. More than enough most times. Last tornado in Cleburne TX there were people with home cooked food driving around offering it to anybody who needed something, there was a couple who bought a pickup bed full of bottle water and were driving around offering it to any who needed some, one guy went to a pizza shop and bought the most amount of boxed pizza I have ever seen and was driving around giving pizzas away from the bed of his truck to everybody. At the end of the day we (the relief volunteers) were informed that a local BBQ place had setup a mobile rig in a Krogers parking lot and was feeding free diner to all people in the impacted area as well as all the relief workers.  

On top of that there were numerous 'shelters' set up in churches and schools. The Red Cross was driving around doing their thing of course.

If anybody went without it was because they locked themselves in a closet and refused to come out.
2/2/2015 3:52:07 PM EDT
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make some more french toast.

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Just wanted to use this photo again.

2/2/2015 4:35:24 PM EDT
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make some more french toast.



Just wanted to use this photo again.

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OP: pay attention above.  that is how you roll during SHTF.

ar-jedi


2/2/2015 4:57:24 PM EDT
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When drunk sitting in their garage looking out into the maze of mcmansion suburbia they live in....



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make some more french toast.

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You totally fubar'd up your toast to syrup ratio.  I love me some syrup, but those bottom pieces are going to be soggy.
2/2/2015 5:19:45 PM EDT
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please log off ARFCOM.  men do not tell other men how much syrup they can put on french toast.  take that shit elsewhere.

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2/2/2015 5:34:40 PM EDT
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please log off ARFCOM.  men do not tell other men how much syrup they can put on french toast.  take that shit elsewhere.

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please log off ARFCOM.  men do not tell other men how much syrup they can put on french toast.  take that shit elsewhere.

ar-jedi

French toast if for lil kids and men with girl hands.
Go make biscuits and gravy with cheese grits and two fried eggs...:p


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please log off ARFCOM.  men do not tell other men how much syrup they can put on french toast.  take that shit elsewhere.

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Especially when it is made by friends of ours.

Anyways, might be a French Toast day tomorrow at the rate the snow is coming down.
2/2/2015 6:38:13 PM EDT
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please log off ARFCOM.  men do not tell other men how much syrup they can put on french toast.  take that shit elsewhere.

ar-jedi

French toast if for lil kids and men with girl hands.
Go make biscuits and gravy with cheese grits and two fried eggs...:p


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Says, Mr. Florida.
2/2/2015 6:41:34 PM EDT
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Close, but no man card for you either.

Bacon-wrapped steak and fried eggs with two sides of bacon and crunched up bacon sprinkled on the eggs, some hashbrowns (with bacon), and black coffee.
2/2/2015 7:02:13 PM EDT
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Close, but no man card for you either.

Bacon-wrapped steak and fried eggs with two sides of bacon and crunched up bacon sprinkled on the eggs, some hashbrowns (with bacon), and black coffee.


Do not make go out in a snow storm wearing snow shoes to grill up a steak (wait  did that the other night) to shut you guys up.  

Actually, Dragynn, that sounds good.   Especially, since my makeing French Toast was a dig on all the "milk, egg, and bread snow storm only preppers" out there.  

Hey, OP, would it have been wrong to show up at the door with my plate of "over-syruped" French Toast and told her, "Nope, all out of food."?    Kind of think she would return to the van, "Dad, why did that man say, "fucking finally" as he closed the door?"
2/2/2015 11:52:38 PM EDT
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please log off ARFCOM.  men do not tell other men how much syrup they can put on french toast.  take that shit elsewhere.

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Yeah turns out that he has an abundance of syrup while some guys down the street don't have any syrup. We need to take half your syrup and give it to those who don't have any. He needs to pay his fair share after all.  He didn't make that syrup. Etc...
2/3/2015 3:18:34 PM EDT
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So a few days into a natural disaster and we're already identifying people as "military aged males"?  Silly.  Did the storm rain insurgents or something?

Anyone who doesn't help a 7 and 14 year old after a natural disaster needs to get their heads checked.

"Relief forces", LOL.
2/3/2015 3:57:18 PM EDT
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Two pages and not one blade at 45, no MS paint and no imitation crab? This place is falling apart....
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Your not in GD.


I find myself wondering about that more often recently than in years past

I am becoming a big fan of the ignore feature though
2/3/2015 6:37:57 PM EDT
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Unless you live in some kind of ghetto, in normal times w a power issue, I see no need to have a person with a rifle backing me up.  Seems a little out there.  If this was some prolonged disaster with anarchy breaking out, fine.
2/4/2015 10:32:32 AM EDT
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Some people just have to keep looking for "the line" and since they can't find it themselves in their fantasies, they need others to to tell them where it is.
2/4/2015 1:28:13 PM EDT
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if you noticed all that, then why would you open the door?

my response would have been to not be there standing with the door open in the first place.
(my house would be boarded up as though deserted and would not appear to have a functioning front door)
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14 days with no power (hurricane) ..worse case was my neighbor begging for hot coffee ...which ..I gladly filled his Thermos each day..after that..he'd watch the place like a hawk from his place....and I never asked for that.
Its fun to wargame things ....get the grey matter twitching. But id ask why someone could just walk up to your door to start with.


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2/4/2015 2:53:51 PM EDT
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I'd tell them that I heard that they were giving out MRE's in town but that I didn't have any way to get there so I don't know for sure. Man I sure wish I had some MRE's, then I'd send them on their way. Of course we're well, ahm...protected.



2/4/2015 7:33:06 PM EDT
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  in the first place, this is not Siberia.  If a person is injured, you can get help.
2/4/2015 7:52:09 PM EDT
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The "what do I do with raider scout" is my favorite around here...has been a while.

Localized issue lasting a week? Business as usual, take care of friendlies and subsistence to unknowns, perhaps visible holster
Regional issue lasting months? Lock it down tighter and maintain security
National grid down, etc? Instant security, consolidate neighbors, guard duty, armed deterrent
The Day movie? Shoot on sight lol.

2/5/2015 12:09:39 AM EDT
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I am wondering where you were in Kentucky that did not already have access to disaster relief in that time period during one of the fairly recent big storms.   Even if there is enough damage to keep work crews swamped locals will start clearing roads themselves so they can resupply if needed.

The blizzard of 94 was the worst right in my area but there were no wondering raiders or starving refugees.
2/5/2015 12:31:07 AM EDT
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This sounds like fun!###!!!!


Oh here's what I'd do. I would invite both the children inside, At gunpoint.

Then tell the young man outside that I had the children hostage. I'd also tell him to signal the van to come over but not to alert them or the children's safety would be at stake.

Thennnnn I would have the armed member of my family flank for control. (Is that as good as blading?)

I tie up all potential raiders and drive them all an hour away to the Indian casinos and leave them there.

I drive back with a new van.

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