Posted: 4/26/2013 10:59:46 AM EDT
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Its been a while since I made a contribution here so I thought I’d pass this info along. If you guys are like me you’ve got lots of flammables on hand and no flammable storage cabinet. I found that four gallons of Coleman fuel fit perfectly in a 1500 round 7.62 ammo can. There is even room to put some Sig bottles or isobutane cans for the small stoves on top of them. I keep all my combustibles in the garage so I worry about the errant spark from a grinder or the welder landing somewhere that could be catastrophic. Also, you can fit 12-15 one pound propane tanks in one of the larger 30mm cans. I see these at gun shows for around $25 bucks regularly. I think this would make traveling with them in an emergency easier too. See pics below for reference.    |
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Quoted: More pics and info about Willy (and lots of other arfcom jeeps) on page two of this thread. We better keep the discussion here about survival stuff or we'll get the stink eye from one of the mods.How much for the jeep?  http://www.ar15.com/forums/t_1_5/1461949_I_got_stuck__Willys_CJ_Thread_.html&page=2 |
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Quoted: This is air tight, thats the whole point. You do understand that there are lids on these right?I would keep it in a sealed plastic container. If it does go off for some reason the parts from the ammo can could seriously injure or kill someone. FWIW. The vapors are combustible not the liquid. It only takes a small amount of vapor to make an explosion.  edit to add smiley, I dont want to sound like a jerk. |
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Coleman fuel does not bother me in an ammo can I guess. I treat coleman fuel just like gasoline and all I see the ammo can doing is further protecting the coleman fuel cans. I don't like the propane in the ammo can. Propane is heavier than air and if a can has a slow leak or temps get so hot it vents the ammo can is now full of propane. An ammo can is designed to bend if the ammo inside cooks off so the ammo can will bend and vent the pressure instead of it trying to contain the pressure and becoming a bunch of shrapnel. I like propane to have a way to just vent to the atmosphere and spread out and go away. Stuff like the cage of 20lb propane tanks at wallyworld is what I am talking about. If a tank vents that propane will not be contained in the cage. I don't really know how much it really matters in the real world, just my thoughts on the subject. |
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Quoted: Im pretty careful about opening any of these near an ignition source but you've made a valid point. Thanks for commenting.Coleman fuel does not bother me in an ammo can I guess. I treat coleman fuel just like gasoline and all I see the ammo can doing is further protecting the coleman fuel cans. I don't like the propane in the ammo can. Propane is heavier than air and if a can has a slow leak or temps get so hot it vents the ammo can is now full of propane. An ammo can is designed to bend if the ammo inside cooks off so the ammo can will bend and vent the pressure instead of it trying to contain the pressure and becoming a bunch of shrapnel. I like propane to have a way to just vent to the atmosphere and spread out and go away. Stuff like the cage of 20lb propane tanks at wallyworld is what I am talking about. If a tank vents that propane will not be contained in the cage. I don't really know how much it really matters in the real world, just my thoughts on the subject. |
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We use Mapp gas to solder with at work, and I keep my torch tank in a small plastic work box (not air tight to say the least). Well one day I came and unlocked the truck and could smell gas when I opened the back door. My torch head was slowly leaking all night. even though the back of the truck smelled like gas, once i opened the small box it really made my eyes water. The best way I can describe it is that the box was like a bucket full of Mapp gas, and once it was full it would start over flowing into the back of the truck. Anyways this is really hit home the fact that propane dose not rise. We also had a home explode in our area a few months ago. The home was hit by lightning and the lightning tracked the black iron gas line all the way to a stainless steel gas flex hose, which then burnt a hole in the stainless thus leaking propane into the house. This was in the basement and the gas had know where to go, and something cycled on with a spark and blew the house. Thankfully know one was living in the house at the time. Not saying what you are doing is wrong, but after all this I am really planning to building a outside shed, as far away from my house as possible to store my gases. |
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Quoted: When I think about all the coleman fuel, gas for the generators, large and small propane tanks, isobutane tanks, tanks for the torch, loaded ammo and all the powder for reloading it really worries me. We've got our smoke detectors tied to the alarm system that is monitored by the alarm company and all alerts come to my smartphone too. I know thats not much but its all I can do for now. Thats why I keep everything I can in sealed metal containers. We use Mapp gas to solder with at work, and I keep my torch tank in a small plastic work box (not air tight to say the least). Well one day I came and unlocked the truck and could smell gas when I opened the back door. My torch head was slowly leaking all night. even though the back of the truck smelled like gas, once i opened the small box it really made my eyes water. The best way I can describe it is that the box was like a bucket full of Mapp gas, and once it was full it would start over flowing into the back of the truck. Anyways this is really hit home the fact that propane dose not rise. We also had a home explode in our area a few months ago. The home was hit by lightning and the lightning tracked the black iron gas line all the way to a stainless steel gas flex hose, which then burnt a hole in the stainless thus leaking propane into the house. This was in the basement and the gas had know where to go, and something cycled on with a spark and blew the house. Thankfully know one was living in the house at the time. Not saying what you are doing is wrong, but after all this I am really planning to building a outside shed, as far away from my house as possible to store my gases. |
| I am using a discarded upright freezer to store my combustibles. I keep it outside and locked. Keep a thermometer inside and it has done the job for several years now. Did add a wooden roof over the top of the freezer to keep it a little cooler in the summer down here. Is there anything that I am overlooking? Larry |
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Quoted: Apeman the ammo cans you can use ground clamps wired to a grounding rod to further protect from static electricity which can happen during dry season beside the protection from errant grinding sparks. Thats an excellent suggestion. I grounded our faraday cage in the basement, I dont know why this didnt occur to me! |
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Quoted: The freezer is another good idea!I am using a discarded upright freezer to store my combustibles. I keep it outside and locked. Keep a thermometer inside and it has done the job for several years now. Did add a wooden roof over the top of the freezer to keep it a little cooler in the summer down here. Is there anything that I am overlooking? Larry |