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10/26/2012 10:07:42 AM EDT
I was just going to title it "Thoughts on Hummers", but then the GD crowd got into my head and thought otherwise.  I know the SD crowd is different...

Anyway, SD, what are your thoughts?  I know they get TERRIBLE mpg.  What about reliability and durability?  Are any years better than others?  Is 60K miles for a used too much given its reliability?
10/26/2012 10:12:18 AM EDT
[#1]
I have an H3 that gets 17-20 on the highway depending on quality of gas.
I like it pretty well, and have had no major problems other than having to change both front wheel berrings at a cost of 600 each do to the damed ABS!

Get yourself an M100 or newer trailer to hall extra stuff it's worth it!
10/26/2012 10:15:21 AM EDT
[#2]
If this was in GD: I'd tell you to get it for the 'coolness' of it.

Since this SF, I would really have to lean on a nice gmt 400 k2500 w/sfa, eatra batts, lights, tanks....

But then again, I got 5 small kids and a wife, and I aint looking to mount offensives with my truck.

Just slowly be on my way; as inconspicuous as possible.

10/26/2012 10:16:00 AM EDT
[#3]
Quoted:
I was just going to title it "Thoughts on Hummers", but then the GD crowd got into my head and thought otherwise.  I know the SD crowd is different...

Anyway, SD, what are your thoughts?  I know they get TERRIBLE mpg.  What about reliability and durability?  Are any years better than others?  Is 60K miles for a used too much given its reliability?


if you want a superior off road vehicle, buy a h1 hummer. the h2 is worthless offroad, ( well for the $$ it is), its no better than any other vehicle. the h3, well they are more reasonable in price, and no worse than most other suv's. the h1 is the only real off road truck though.
10/26/2012 10:17:41 AM EDT
[#4]
Quoted:
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I was just going to title it "Thoughts on Hummers", but then the GD crowd got into my head and thought otherwise.  I know the SD crowd is different...

Anyway, SD, what are your thoughts?  I know they get TERRIBLE mpg.  What about reliability and durability?  Are any years better than others?  Is 60K miles for a used too much given its reliability?


if you want a superior off road vehicle, buy a h1 hummer. the h2 is worthless offroad, ( well for the $$ it is), its no better than any other vehicle. the h3, well they are more reasonable in price, and no worse than most other suv's. the h1 is the only real off road truck though.


So the H3 is worse than say, a Toyota FJ for off-road capability?
10/26/2012 11:04:27 AM EDT
[#5]
Unless you just gotta have it for the coolness, just go buy a Jeep or Toyota or even a GM or Ford and enjoy a reasonable supply of spare parts.
10/26/2012 11:12:08 AM EDT
[#6]







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I was just going to title it "Thoughts on Hummers", but then the GD crowd got into my head and thought otherwise.  I know the SD crowd is different...
Anyway, SD, what are your thoughts?  I know they get TERRIBLE mpg.  What about reliability and durability?  Are any years better than others?  Is 60K miles for a used too much given its reliability?

if you want a superior off road vehicle, buy a h1 hummer. the h2 is worthless offroad, ( well for the $$ it is), its no better than any other vehicle. the h3, well they are more reasonable in price, and no worse than most other suv's. the h1 is the only real off road truck though.

So the H3 is worse than say, a Toyota FJ for off-road capability?




scribble1, ignore him...he just drives some K2500 diesel Suburban....
Short version of Hummers



H1 = The military HMMV sold to civilians.  The H1 has all of the Awesome off road of the .mil HMMV and the H1 has all of the Awesome suspension parts that were only on the HMMV and H1.  
H2 = Created to make the Hummer look available to average soccer moms.  Using standard 3/4 ton parts and engine with the AWD of the Escalade.  Think of the H2 as an Escalade with a lift kit.  The all wheel drive is not quite the best for off road because there is no 4LO.
H3 = The economy hummer.  1/2 ton parts but the dinky 5 cylinder engine out of GM's smallest pickup.  Direct competitor to the FJ Cruiser and the Jeep.
Now



So you wanna get a Hummer
You gonna get luved tenderly in GD and also from some SFers to ... so have your thick skin on when you post pics.
Get the H1 if you can afford it and want it ... do not expect it to be fast on the interstate ... just not made for highway super cruise.  
If you get an H2 ... you are gonna look cool going to the ski s resort or boat ramp ... do not go places that need 4LO because it is just not there.
H3 there were several types of H3:  There was a bling H3, a Tactical H3, an offroad package, and the H3 Alpha package.



The offroad package had the skid plates, limited slip differentials, and bigger tires



The Alpha got the 5.3L V8 from the half ton pickups



The bling model had lots of shiny things; wheels, chrome trim ... you might call it a whip.



The tactical model had black wheels, black grill and almost no chrome.
I hope this helps.
 

 
10/26/2012 11:16:48 AM EDT
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I was just going to title it "Thoughts on Hummers", but then the GD crowd got into my head and thought otherwise.  I know the SD crowd is different...

Anyway, SD, what are your thoughts?  I know they get TERRIBLE mpg.  What about reliability and durability?  Are any years better than others?  Is 60K miles for a used too much given its reliability?


if you want a superior off road vehicle, buy a h1 hummer. the h2 is worthless offroad, ( well for the $$ it is), its no better than any other vehicle. the h3, well they are more reasonable in price, and no worse than most other suv's. the h1 is the only real off road truck though.


So the H3 is worse than say, a Toyota FJ for off-road capability?


if i wanted something with off road capability, a h1 hummer is the only choice if you want a hummer.  a h3 might be ok, as they are priced around the other suv's. i dont have a gripe with the h3, but the h2, is a street machine, as you can do much better for less money.
10/26/2012 11:29:58 AM EDT
[#8]
In before buck19delta puts H2 wheels on his Suburban
 
10/26/2012 12:38:05 PM EDT
[#9]
if your asking...and it has to be a Hummer..

H1 only, forget the other two. There are better 4x4s than those two for a lot less money.
10/26/2012 12:39:29 PM EDT
[#10]
I have a H1-1993 for a work truck. While it is pretty cool, it doesn't really do anything an FJ or a Wrangler will not do except carry a lot more weight. Mine weighs 11890 lbs loaded. The GVWR is 12K. The truck empty weighs about 9K, so it is a beast empty. For a regular person though, the parts are a little difficult to find and service is non existent. I have to do all of the work to it myself. I don't know what I would do without the "Hummer Parts Guy". I have gotten to be pretty good friends with him. . I much prefer my 97 Dodge 4x4 Long bed CTD 12 Valve. I go everywhere the H1 can go as far as off road, have more power, and can carry the same payload. Plus, my truck rides much better, is quiet (on inside at least) and get better fuel mileage.
10/26/2012 1:18:26 PM EDT
[#11]
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I was just going to title it "Thoughts on Hummers", but then the GD crowd got into my head and thought otherwise.  I know the SD crowd is different...

Anyway, SD, what are your thoughts?  I know they get TERRIBLE mpg.  What about reliability and durability?  Are any years better than others?  Is 60K miles for a used too much given its reliability?


if you want a superior off road vehicle, buy a h1 hummer. the h2 is worthless offroad, ( well for the $$ it is), its no better than any other vehicle. the h3, well they are more reasonable in price, and no worse than most other suv's. the h1 is the only real off road truck though.


So the H3 is worse than say, a Toyota FJ for off-road capability?


Yes very much so
10/26/2012 1:28:43 PM EDT
[#12]
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I was just going to title it "Thoughts on Hummers", but then the GD crowd got into my head and thought otherwise.  I know the SD crowd is different...

Anyway, SD, what are your thoughts?  I know they get TERRIBLE mpg.  What about reliability and durability?  Are any years better than others?  Is 60K miles for a used too much given its reliability?


if you want a superior off road vehicle, buy a h1 hummer. the h2 is worthless offroad, ( well for the $$ it is), its no better than any other vehicle. the h3, well they are more reasonable in price, and no worse than most other suv's. the h1 is the only real off road truck though.


So the H3 is worse than say, a Toyota FJ for off-road capability?


It feels terrible compared to an fj.  Less power and twitchy on surface transitions.  Worse mileage even with the 5 cylinder.  Maybe the Alpha would have enough power to ignore that but I couldn't find one for sale locally.
10/26/2012 1:43:43 PM EDT
[#13]
Local dealer has 4 root rubicons with dealer added options suspension left and 35 ing tires. It's all you need lifted and locked front and rear.
10/26/2012 1:49:39 PM EDT
[#14]
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In before buck19delta puts H2 wheels on his Suburban  


id do h1 run flats first. but they weigh too damn much !
10/26/2012 2:01:48 PM EDT
[#15]
the H3 is a glorified trail blazer I looked at one for my fiance years back and I was not impressed at all.
10/26/2012 2:02:37 PM EDT
[#16]
Quoted:
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I was just going to title it "Thoughts on Hummers", but then the GD crowd got into my head and thought otherwise.  I know the SD crowd is different...

Anyway, SD, what are your thoughts?  I know they get TERRIBLE mpg.  What about reliability and durability?  Are any years better than others?  Is 60K miles for a used too much given its reliability?


if you want a superior off road vehicle, buy a h1 hummer. the h2 is worthless offroad, ( well for the $$ it is), its no better than any other vehicle. the h3, well they are more reasonable in price, and no worse than most other suv's. the h1 is the only real off road truck though.


So the H3 is worse than say, a Toyota FJ for off-road capability? It feels terrible compared to an fj. Less power and twitchy on surface transitions. Worse mileage even with the 5 cylinder. Maybe the Alpha would have enough power to ignore that but I couldn't find one for sale locally.


NO! 4x4 magazines have tested the FJ and the H3 and found them to be same same but different!

I have the standard transmission model definitely better power than an auto transmission model, 17 -20 mpg hwy with good gas, and approx 16 mpg city.I have a friend who had an FJ, and the handling was a bit different. But nothing I would call twitchy!
10/26/2012 2:06:28 PM EDT
[#17]
My 08 H3 gets 18 to 20 MPG.
I like it, so far no issues.
If I had to run from the ZPOC I'd trust it.
10/26/2012 3:09:20 PM EDT
[#18]
I have owned two H3's and I can tell you they will go where no Jeep can go...just go to hummerxclub.com or similar sites.  Check out the Moab sites especially.

Secondly, the H3 has more offroad capability than the H2...look at the specs and compare takeoff angle, etc...you will see the H3 is no slouch.  American General's  all wheel drive is very innovative and capable.

Third, the H3 came in 5, 6 and 8 cylinder versions - if you're looking for one, go for an H3 Alpha which the V8.

People like Jeeps because they are more easily and cheaply modded, but there are sacrifices with them too (esp towing capacity and interior storage).  Some Hummer owners have dropped in Duramax engines and Allison transmissions for extra low 4WD....these are among the most capable four wheelers out there.

Bottom line is you can make a Yugo BOV capable if you spend enough...the H3 has serious capabilities that should be considered.
10/26/2012 3:30:17 PM EDT
[#19]
the only thing "Hummer" about the H2 and H3 is the badge and the pricetag.  Its just a Suburban and a Colorado respectivley, with funky body panels. No better or worse than the parent vehicle. and I worked at a GM dealership for 10 years.
10/26/2012 3:50:11 PM EDT
[#20]
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the only thing "Hummer" about the H2 and H3 is the badge and the pricetag.  Its just a Suburban and a Colorado respectivley, with funky body panels. No better or worse than the parent vehicle. and I worked at a GM dealership for 10 years.


+1 for H2 and H3 is NOT A HUMMER!

H1 is the ONLY Hummer.

10/26/2012 4:22:05 PM EDT
[#21]


Neighbor's daughter had an h3 with the 5 cylinder and they had some expensive repairs with the cylinder head.  They said it was a common issue but I never looked into it since it was not my vehicle and they had a shop working on it.



I could kind of see getting a hummer if it is a version that is way different from what that normal chassis had.  For instance the alpha hummer with the v8 might be spiffy just because I don't think the canyon or colorado had a v8 put into them.  



I don't get into discussions about what the most capable vehicle would be since it depends on your use.  As mentioned some vehicles can carry more stuff than other vehicles.





10/26/2012 4:26:08 PM EDT
[#22]
Screw it, go big!
10/26/2012 5:25:34 PM EDT
[#23]
H3 Alpha was  Four Wheeler Magazines 2008 Four wheeler of the year.
Very capable off road and good on highway if you need a daily driver (like me)
Have 81K miles on mine, and other than routine maintenance, no issues.
Drove the Toyota FJ when I was shopping, and was not impressed.
I have several friends with Jeeps, and they are always having problems, and on road, even they agree they ride like shit.
10/26/2012 10:51:48 PM EDT
[#24]
H1 is the only real hummer.   Only an idiot ( or just someone who doesn't know any better) would equate an FJ with an H3.   FJs own those turds. More hP, more torque, longer suspension travel...infinitely more reliable.  I've been in an FJ at Moab, I know what they can do.   They pull H3s out of holes all day long.

H2? Ha!  Nothing but a 3 ton Redneck Parade float
10/26/2012 11:39:08 PM EDT
[#25]
I've driven the military HMMWV extensively, as well as owned a 97 H1 (6.5L diesel).

IMHO, expensive and overrated toys that are not worth it unless you can live with the inconveniences. And keep in mind this is coming from someone who used to be a fan and used to think it would be "cool" to own one...until I actually did! Horrible gas mileage, snail-like acceleration (and yes, I test-drove a turbo diesel, and it was not much better), difficult to safely maneuver at low speeds in cramped areas (crowded parking lots, narrow driveways, etc), somewhat limited visibility, tires are expensive, climate control system had constant strange problems (though I heard that they are much better now), impossible to park on the side of the road when visiting someone without ruining their lawn (I got in the habit of either calling ahead to make sure I could get in the driveway, or just driving my sedan if I knew the driveway was small), interior noise can cause family to complain, and on and on.

On the plus side...great interior room, insane low end torque, relatively easy to work on (compared to a super-high-tech, cramped, modern "SUV"), incredible ground clearance, parts were never difficult to find, and I am sure more things I could remember if I didn't want to forget the experience!

I would definitely, without a doubt, recommend an extended test drive if possible before you buy, if you have never driven one before. Think really hard about the purchase. I wish I had!!!
10/27/2012 4:04:51 AM EDT
[#26]
if you get an h3, everyone will look at you like you are some kind of dick.  true fact...

i did rent one in houston once, on the company dime.  a yellow one no less.  it was either this or a kia matchbox car or some shit.  should have got the car.  two biggest complaints i have are lack of 360 deg visibility/far too many blind spots, and a general lack of get up and go.  im sure the one i rented had the gutless baseline motor in it, but still, pretty weak. and this comes from someone whos daily driver is a barely running 2000 ford exploder.  never took it off-road so i cant comment there, but arent these just glorified colorados?  if so, id sooner just have the colorado.

ETA

obviously i would take an h1 in a heartbeat.  it would just suck to repair and maintain though.
10/27/2012 5:27:50 AM EDT
[#27]
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obviously i would take an h1 in a heartbeat.  it would just suck to repair and maintain though.



Ha, read what I said above about the H1...sounds like some of the same complaints as you give the H3!
10/27/2012 5:54:05 AM EDT
[#28]


UNIMOG laughs at your puny H2  


 
10/27/2012 5:56:13 AM EDT
[#29]
when you say hummer do you mean the military one or the H3 type ones?
My opinion Skip the H3 ones and get a 4 door jeep. Huge aftermarket, true front axle (no IFS stuff),
very versatile offroad. You have many more options with a wrangler vs a hummer.
10/27/2012 6:37:49 AM EDT
[#30]
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scribble1, ignore him...he just drives some K2500 diesel Suburban....
   


Should we have a head to head contest pitting H1s and a modded diesel k2500 and rate it for DD/BOV and rule on overall cost, maintenance and performance???

A bunch of people sell the Burb short, I believe thats a mistake...

10/27/2012 6:40:15 AM EDT
[#31]
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Unless you just gotta have it for the coolness, just go buy a Jeep or Toyota or even a GM or Ford and enjoy a reasonable supply of spare parts.


With the H3, there isn't anything too special about drivetrain components.  Essentially, the H3 is my Chevy Colorado with a SUV body.  I'm not sure as far as years go, but I would look for one with the 3.7 I-5 instead of the 3.5 I-5 engine.   The earlier years of the I-5 engines had an issue with the heads.  I forgot the full explanation, but GM issues a recall type slip that extended coverage on the head to 7 years or 75k miles due to problems with valves getting stuck in the head.  I just had the head replaced on my truck earlier this year at 71k (she turned 7 in September) thus I just barely made it into the warranty.

My truck gets around 18mpg averaged, so I would figure about 1 mpg less due to the extra weight of the SUV body.  The biggest issues that my truck has had in its 7 years has been the head issue (which I dont' think is a problem with the 3.7 motors), had a module go out that controlled windows and door locks, and it is currently parked at my parents house until I change out the thermostat (which went out Thursday).
10/27/2012 7:42:24 AM EDT
[#32]
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I have a H1-1993 for a work truck. While it is pretty cool, it doesn't really do anything an FJ or a Wrangler will not do except carry a lot more weight. Mine weighs 11890 lbs loaded. The GVWR is 12K. The truck empty weighs about 9K, so it is a beast empty. For a regular person though, the parts are a little difficult to find and service is non existent. I have to do all of the work to it myself. I don't know what I would do without the "Hummer Parts Guy". I have gotten to be pretty good friends with him. . I much prefer my 97 Dodge 4x4 Long bed CTD 12 Valve. I go everywhere the H1 can go as far as off road, have more power, and can carry the same payload. Plus, my truck rides much better, is quiet (on inside at least) and get better fuel mileage.


I driven 2 H1s at work, at they do have some advantages over other 4x4s.  One is the central tire inflation system which allow you to dump air on sand and mud and reinflate as you emerge.  Secondly is the lack of a center axle or differential.  I've never seen this come into play drving an H2 in mud, but I have gotten upteen pickup trucks high centered on mud where the axles seem the culprit.  However in snow, the lack of a center diff makes it far easer to drive through snow drifts.  We bought a H1 and reduced our trailering of the snowcat 70%.  This was more significant than it sounds because we would have to use to snowcat to negotiate a drifts and the beat it to pieces drving over a rough road between and in front of the bad drifts.  Thirdly the H1 (when the brake is lightly applied) has the equilivent (in effectiveness) of front and rear locking differentials.

The hummer seem like it is far more stable on side slopes than another vehicle with similar ground clearance, but I haven't actually seen the numbers to back it up.  But you don't feel the weight transfer to downhill side as you typically do.

Note #1 is doable by hand, and (#3) some extreme owners installed locking diffs front and rear, but thats fairly rare for a street driven vehicle.  Limited slip F&R isn't close to effectiveness.

Everything else about the vehicle sucks :-).  It's huge, heavy, rough riding, noisy, without the payload of a 1 ton, repair costs (not on the engine) are insane, tires are insane, and it's extremly high profile.
10/27/2012 8:59:40 AM EDT
[#33]


This
If I was buying a serious off road vehicle that needs to carry a load this would be it. Get the fully independent drive 3 axle setup and leave the rest to slug it out following you down the trail.
Don't try this in your H2 or H3 and maybe not an H1
10/27/2012 10:03:41 AM EDT
[#34]
A question - what does the Hummer (h2/h3) have that you can't get in a crew-cab truck with 4wd, towing package, etc?





10/27/2012 11:48:47 AM EDT
[#35]



Quoted:


A question - what does the Hummer (h2/h3) have that you can't get in a crew-cab truck with 4wd, towing package, etc?







A $20,000 markup?



 
10/27/2012 1:21:29 PM EDT
[#36]



Quoted:


A question - what does the Hummer (h2/h3) have that you can't get in a crew-cab truck with 4wd, towing package, etc?







Crew cab pickup will never have a 3rd row seat.



Little passengers seat may be installed in an H3



There are factory 3rd row seats for the H2



A more direct comparison the be H2 vs Escalade/Denalli, and H3 vs Tahoe



 
10/27/2012 1:30:24 PM EDT
[#37]



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scribble1, ignore him...he just drives some K2500 diesel Suburban....

   




Should we have a head to head contest pitting H1s and a modded diesel k2500 and rate it for DD/BOV and rule on overall cost, maintenance and performance???



A bunch of people sell the Burb short, I believe thats a mistake...





ar154all, I'm going to post this so you may read as many times as you need so you can understand.



1) Buck has had 2 days to take offense and he has not.

2) Buck has posted in this thread after I posted that.

3) Even you quoted the smiley that I posted.

4) You really need to search my screen name for threads I have authored in this forum.

5) Get back to me when you can read the joke



 
10/27/2012 2:58:21 PM EDT
[#38]
H1 is great Offroad but not the greatest in day to day driving. It is also very wide and will not fit in some places where a Wrangler, Tacoma or FJ will go with no problems. H2 is a joke Offroad and basically a soccer mom vehicle. Some of the H3's have lockers and are better Offroad than the standard model, the Alpha ups the power and is a big plus over the standard 5 cylinder but in the end it is still a dressed up Chevy Colorado with a huge price increase. If you can get one at a good price and it is really what you want then get an H3 or H1 but there are better options out there unless you are in love with one of them and won't look at anything else.
10/27/2012 11:22:46 PM EDT
[#39]
Quoted:

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scribble1, ignore him...he just drives some K2500 diesel Suburban....
   


Should we have a head to head contest pitting H1s and a modded diesel k2500 and rate it for DD/BOV and rule on overall cost, maintenance and performance???

A bunch of people sell the Burb short, I believe thats a mistake...


ar154all, I'm going to post this so you may read as many times as you need so you can understand.

1) Buck has had 2 days to take offense and he has not.
2) Buck has posted in this thread after I posted that.
3) Even you quoted the smiley that I posted.
4) You really need to search my screen name for threads I have authored in this forum.
5) Get back to me when you can read the joke
 


Dial it down a tad...

The comment was a generalization, not an accusation.
I think Hummers are cool and awesome off road performers.
I also think that a Suburban with a few mode can to 90% of what a Hummer can do off road, be a more user friendly vehicle for ownership, and also get down the highway  better than a H1 for a fraction of the cost.
These are my opinions, nothing more.  I would like to see an 'official' comparison from a reputable source to find out if my opinions are correct.
I know you were joking.  I was hoping to start a dogpile of Burb owners chiming into this thread.  Didnt happen.
I honestly did NOT mean to piss anyone off.  It was just a friendly H1- superburb rivalry thing.  I guess it didnt come across so well.

Carry on.
Edit to add after a few hours sleep: Change your tampon.
10/28/2012 5:18:33 AM EDT
[#40]
I've always wanted an H1, but have been deterred by the expense and the esoteric nature of them. I'd rather have a bobbed deuce.

10/28/2012 6:15:12 AM EDT
[#41]
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I've always wanted an H1, but have been deterred by the expense and the esoteric nature of them. I'd rather have a bobbed deuce.

http://i485.photobucket.com/albums/rr220/pallymcgee/bobbedsite7.png


Pretty much this. If you want to go all out, get a bobbed deuce with a comm box bed and turn it into a SHTF supply hauler.

You're not going to be running MOAB SHTF.
10/28/2012 6:37:27 AM EDT
[#42]



Quoted:



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I've always wanted an H1, but have been deterred by the expense and the esoteric nature of them. I'd rather have a bobbed deuce.



http://i485.photobucket.com/albums/rr220/pallymcgee/bobbedsite7.png




Pretty much this. If you want to go all out, get a bobbed deuce with a comm box bed and turn it into a SHTF supply hauler.



You're not going to be running MOAB SHTF.




2 row seating and air-conditioning

http://www.autoweek.com/article/20070726/free/70725006







 
10/28/2012 6:38:57 AM EDT
[#43]



Quoted:



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Quoted:


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scribble1, ignore him...he just drives some K2500 diesel Suburban....

   




Should we have a head to head contest pitting H1s and a modded diesel k2500 and rate it for DD/BOV and rule on overall cost, maintenance and performance???



A bunch of people sell the Burb short, I believe thats a mistake...





ar154all, I'm going to post this so you may read as many times as you need so you can understand.



1) Buck has had 2 days to take offense and he has not.

2) Buck has posted in this thread after I posted that.

3) Even you quoted the smiley that I posted.

4) You really need to search my screen name for threads I have authored in this forum.

5) Get back to me when you can read the joke

 




Dial it down a tad...



The comment was a generalization, not an accusation.

I think Hummers are cool and awesome off road performers.

I also think that a Suburban with a few mode can to 90% of what a Hummer can do off road, be a more user friendly vehicle for ownership, and also get down the highway  better than a H1 for a fraction of the cost.

These are my opinions, nothing more.  I would like to see an 'official' comparison from a reputable source to find out if my opinions are correct.

I know you were joking.  I was hoping to start a dogpile of Burb owners chiming into this thread.  Didnt happen.

I honestly did NOT mean to piss anyone off.  It was just a friendly H1- superburb rivalry thing.  I guess it didnt come across so well.



Carry on.

Edit to add after a few hours sleep: Change your tampon.


OKaay there



I see that you clearly have not done your homework
 
10/28/2012 6:57:04 AM EDT
[#44]
Do you're research on the H2 and you'll see that it's NOTHING like the regular full size GM SUVs.  Yes it shares SOME parts but 60% of it uses highly customized GM parts specific only to the Hummer.  

I have an 07 H2 and it's the most fun truck I've ever owned.  An H2 is the only way to get the 2500 series 6.0L drive train without having to get the "long frame" suburban/Yukon XL.  A Tahoe/base Yukon only have the little oil eating piston slapping 5.3L and the non-HD transmission.

GM spent millions perfecting this thing to appeal to the ultimate offroad crowd.  An H2 can do 80%, yes  8 - 0 - % of what an H1 can do.  That was their mission going in when they designed it.  The problem was, all of the gangstas bought them and G rided them out which totally f'd up the image for the H2 and made it a yuppie/gangsta mobile initially.  Today however, the people this thing was built for are starting to buy it as I'm see more on the road setup as trail rigs and less G rides.

You'll notice that an H2 with equal mileage is almost the same dame price as the Tahoe.  Take advantage of this market anomaly while you can as H2 stock in the US is diminishing as they are all being bought and sold over seas.  Mainly Russia and the mid-east.  Oh on gas mileage, this thing get the EXACT SAME MPG as a 3/4 ton GM truck or SUV which is 14mpg.  You have to remember this is a heavy duty vehicle so it's going to fit into the heavy durt MPG category.  Yuppie soccer mom who thought the H2 was a Tahoe bitches that it doesn't get 18mpg like her Tahoe did.  That stigma is what's keeping the prices down rigfht now, but again it won't last long.

On the H3, don't waste your time.  It was rushed to market and they used mid grade parts like the questionable Colorado/Canyon chassis and I-5 drive train.  The H2 was built in heavy collaboration with AM General, the H3 was not and it shows.

Last comment, I bought mine because GM will NEVER build anything like this every again, it's an instant classic that despite what the haters on here say, gets constant thumbs up from lots of people on the road and never any negative comments.  Hell little kids spin in around in their seats to look at it.  They are a blast man get one if you can.
10/28/2012 8:14:18 AM EDT
[#45]
"I have an 07 H2 and it's the most fun truck I've ever owned. An H2 is the only way to get the 2500 series 6.0L drive train without having to get the "long frame" suburban/Yukon XL. A Tahoe/base Yukon only have the little oil eating piston slapping 5.3L and the non-HD transmission."

So now you can get the intake gasket eating non idling 6.0 cool. (i have owned several of both BTW 5.3/6.0)
10/28/2012 12:18:14 PM EDT
[#46]
And the parts of the H2 that matter are exactly the same as 3/4 ton truck parts. brakes, tranny, t-case, engine, axles, drivelines, etc. Most of the proprietary parts are the interior and exterior body parts. That being said I like 3/4 burbs and drive/own one. But for true offroad use the H2 and the IFS chevy trucks are not the best option. But for everyday BOV family hauler trailer puller type duties they are great. It irks me a bit when the H2 is made out to be some offroad monster because a few guys are BUILDING them then wheeling them. You can find a offroad club for virtually any vehicle that has a front axle. And with money thrown at them anything could be pretty damn good off road. H2 and H3 are what they are SLIGHTLY more capable versions of there GM cousins.
10/28/2012 3:49:02 PM EDT
[#47]
Quoted:
"I have an 07 H2 and it's the most fun truck I've ever owned. An H2 is the only way to get the 2500 series 6.0L drive train without having to get the "long frame" suburban/Yukon XL. A Tahoe/base Yukon only have the little oil eating piston slapping 5.3L and the non-HD transmission."

So now you can get the intake gasket eating non idling 6.0 cool. (i have owned several of both BTW 5.3/6.0)


I have an 03 h2.  I find it very capable.  It has an electric rear locker and I've never had it stuck.  It does have a low range and great ground clearance.  Range is about 350 miles on a tank.  Has good towing capacity, but interior space isn't the greatest.  It's pretty comfortable too.  Go drive one, they aren't too expensive these days.  Front hubs are the weak point.  Jack it up and try to wiggle the front tires to check their condition.
10/28/2012 4:35:09 PM EDT
[#48]



Quoted:




I have an 03 h2.  I find it very capable.  It has an electric rear locker and I've never had it stuck.  It does have a low range and great ground clearance.  Range is about 350 miles on a tank.  Has good towing capacity, but interior space isn't the greatest.  It's pretty comfortable too.  Go drive one, they aren't too expensive these days.  Front hubs are the weak point.  Jack it up and try to wiggle the front tires to check their condition.


What type of 4x4 does your H2 have?



Does it have AutoTrac?



 
10/28/2012 6:27:04 PM EDT
[#49]
Quoted:

Quoted:

I have an 03 h2.  I find it very capable.  It has an electric rear locker and I've never had it stuck.  It does have a low range and great ground clearance.  Range is about 350 miles on a tank.  Has good towing capacity, but interior space isn't the greatest.  It's pretty comfortable too.  Go drive one, they aren't too expensive these days.  Front hubs are the weak point.  Jack it up and try to wiggle the front tires to check their condition.

What type of 4x4 does your H2 have?

Does it have AutoTrac?
 


I'm unfamiliar with the AutoTrac term.  It's a full time 4wd.  A good suspension description is Here.  A description of the powertrain and how the locking transfer case and locking rear diff work is Here
10/28/2012 6:38:50 PM EDT
[#50]
Quoted:
I have owned two H3's and I can tell you they will go where no Jeep can god.


Like the poor house?

You are seriously going to say an H3 (with it's tiny windows and poor visiblity) is going to go offroad places a Jeep can't?


Granted the H3 has more room than most jeeps (and that can be a big plus) but off road capability?  I'm sure it can beat the Patrior or the Compass, but not the 'real' Jeeps.
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