[ARCHIVED THREAD] - HONDA eu2000 QUESTION (Page 1 of 2)
Posted: 7/4/2012 9:03:39 AM EDT
| I think im going to order a eu2000 from Wise today...899.00 plus no shipping or tax......Ive heard people complain about changeing the oil, they have a no mess oil change extension tube machined out of aluminum for 15 bucks. should I get it ? do you empty and refill the oil from the same tube ? are there any other accesories I should get while im in the free shipping zone ? |
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I think im going to order a eu2000 from Wise today...899.00 plus no shipping or tax......Ive heard people complain about changeing the oil, they have a no mess oil change extension tube machined out of aluminum for 15 bucks. should I get it ? do you empty and refill the oil from the same tube ? are there any other accesories I should get while im in the free shipping zone ? Don't have one but it sounds useful for $15. I wouldn't put fuel additives in my new genny tho... Mine fell over a while back when it vibrated off a slab and tipped, really made a mess. |
In my opinion, that little tube is worth it's weight in gold 
I'm sort of freakish about maintenance, and one thing that always chapped my ass about changing the oil in the eu2000 was having oil spill inside the plastic outer enclosure-it really, really drove me nuts. No matter how careful I was I'd still spill some. The other two items that are standard equipment on my eu2000s are the Honda anti-theft bracket and a SenDEC hour meter/tach. The bracket isn't going to stop a determined thief, but hopefully it will buy you enough time to get outside and deal with the dirtbag. Amazon link for SenDEC hour meter/tach LINK Amazon link for anti-theft bracket LINK One of mine with bracket and meter installed: 
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The screw-in oil spout is good, and well worth it for the money. I am also partial to the magnetic oil cap they have... it collects any metal shavings on the end of the oil cap to keep them out of the system.
The ultimate I have found for oil changes, in all kinds of small engines, is an oil extractor. Sucks the oil right out. http://www.mityvac.com/pages/products_fee.asp |
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Quoted:One of mine with bracket and meter installed:
http://home.comcast.net/~cjan99999/honda_meter.jpg Good lord! do you Armor-All that thing every day? 
Mine didn't look that good coming out of the box new. 
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http://home.comcast.net/~cjan99999/honda_meter.jpg Good lord! do you Armor-All that thing every day?
Mine didn't look that good coming out of the box new.
Nah, that's the insurance pic when it was brand new-you should see it now It only had .4 hours on it when that pic was taken, so it wasn't even broken in yet.
Anything with a substantial dollar value gets a pic taken for insurance purposes, along with a scan of the bill of sale. Makes it a lot harder for the weasel insurance adjusters to play games. ETA: Speaking of insurance maggots, it's important to document and prove the value of your stuff along with insurance photos. Consider the following pic I got around to sending to my insurance weasel a few days ago: 
Upon getting the e-mail, my insurance weasel read my e-mail and opened the pic-but never opened the attachment with the bill of sale for the nozzle. He wrote back a snarky reply that said "CJan, on what planet is a garden hose nozzle worth $xxx.xx?" 
I wrote back and reminded him to open the other attachment, and informed him that that wasn't a "garden hose nozzle" at all, but a Pok firefighting nozzle with a substantial dollar value attached. That vapid dipshit... |
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That is an excellent deal and I'd get another EU2k in a second. I also have the magnetic drain plug and the filler tube extension. I need to pick up the hour meter and the anti-theft bracket though. Thanks for the heads-up CJan! I got all of the above ordered a couple days ago. Thanks for heads up y'all! |
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That is an excellent deal and I'd get another EU2k in a second. I also have the magnetic drain plug and the filler tube extension. I need to pick up the hour meter and the anti-theft bracket though. Thanks for the heads-up CJan! I got all of the above ordered a couple days ago. Thanks for heads up y'all! Don't ferget the suicide cord and the lernin how to use it SAFELY! 
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That is an excellent deal and I'd get another EU2k in a second. I also have the magnetic drain plug and the filler tube extension. I need to pick up the hour meter and the anti-theft bracket though. Thanks for the heads-up CJan! I got all of the above ordered a couple days ago. Thanks for heads up y'all! me too |
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That is an excellent deal and I'd get another EU2k in a second. I also have the magnetic drain plug and the filler tube extension. I need to pick up the hour meter and the anti-theft bracket though. Thanks for the heads-up CJan! I got all of the above ordered a couple days ago. Thanks for heads up y'all! Don't ferget the suicide cord and the lernin how to use it SAFELY!
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Congratulations Uncool, you are going to love your new Honda
If you've never been around one while it was running, you will be pleasantly surprised at how quietly it operates-particularly with the eco throttle turned on. Two people can stand right over it and have a normal conversation. |
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Congratulations Uncool, you are going to love your new Honda
If you've never been around one while it was running, you will be pleasantly surprised at how quietly it operates-particularly with the eco throttle turned on. Two people can stand right over it and have a normal conversation. WHAT? I don't get a Congrats too? 
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That is an excellent deal and I'd get another EU2k in a second. I also have the magnetic drain plug and the filler tube extension. I need to pick up the hour meter and the anti-theft bracket though. Thanks for the heads-up CJan! I got all of the above ordered a couple days ago. Thanks for heads up y'all! Don't ferget the suicide cord and the lernin how to use it SAFELY!
Ummm, extension cord? Or the cord that backfeeds the dryer plug into the house panel? I'm not sure which you're refering too. |
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Congratulations Uncool, you are going to love your new Honda
If you've never been around one while it was running, you will be pleasantly surprised at how quietly it operates-particularly with the eco throttle turned on. Two people can stand right over it and have a normal conversation. WHAT? I don't get a Congrats too? Oh shit...sorry Mike
Somehow I took your post above to mean that you already had one, and were just buying some accessories to make things easier. My mistake-sorry brother. You are going to love your new Honda as well 
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http://home.comcast.net/~cjan99999/honda_meter.jpg Good lord! do you Armor-All that thing every day?
Mine didn't look that good coming out of the box new.
Nah, that's the insurance pic when it was brand new-you should see it now It only had .4 hours on it when that pic was taken, so it wasn't even broken in yet.
Anything with a substantial dollar value gets a pic taken for insurance purposes, along with a scan of the bill of sale. Makes it a lot harder for the weasel insurance adjusters to play games. ETA: Speaking of insurance maggots, it's important to document and prove the value of your stuff along with insurance photos. Consider the following pic I got around to sending to my insurance weasel a few days ago: http://home.comcast.net/~cjan99999/POK_nozzle.jpg Upon getting the e-mail, my insurance weasel read my e-mail and opened the pic-but never opened the attachment with the bill of sale for the nozzle. He wrote back a snarky reply that said "CJan, on what planet is a garden hose nozzle worth $xxx.xx?"
I wrote back and reminded him to open the other attachment, and informed him that that wasn't a "garden hose nozzle" at all, but a Pok firefighting nozzle with a substantial dollar value attached. That vapid dipshit... Dude... Your garden hose nozzle has a pistol grip. I want it!
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Congratulations Uncool, you are going to love your new Honda
If you've never been around one while it was running, you will be pleasantly surprised at how quietly it operates-particularly with the eco throttle turned on. Two people can stand right over it and have a normal conversation. Damn, Wise is on the ball......the free fed ex shipping tried to deliver it today but I didnt expect saturday delivery w/free shipping......WOW |
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Quoted:Damn, Wise is on the ball......the free fed ex shipping tried to deliver it today but I didnt expect saturday delivery w/free shipping......WOW
I had the same thing happen ...but I lucked out and was home.
I don't see how Wise is making much if any money... They must make up their losses with volume!
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When they sell a parallel kit they are likely to make a LOT of money because there is NOTHING to justify the $$$$ the dealers sell the kit for. Make one yourself for a few $. for us less than handy can you tell us how? The kit effectively parallels the AC outlets from one genny to the other. A simple suicide cord with std plugs on each end to each genny would work fine as long as no one touched the prongs when connecting it. Of course at your own risk. |
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When they sell a parallel kit they are likely to make a LOT of money because there is NOTHING to justify the $$$$ the dealers sell the kit for. Make one yourself for a few $. I didnt really have a problem with the 40 bucks for the paralell cable(if im spending 1800 for two gennies id spend the 40 for their cable), 6 bucks for a 2 buck spark plug made me choke a bit I must admit but the air filters seemed resonable. |
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When they sell a parallel kit they are likely to make a LOT of money because there is NOTHING to justify the $$$$ the dealers sell the kit for. Make one yourself for a few $. I didnt really have a problem with the 40 bucks for the paralell cable(if im spending 1800 for two gennies id spend the 40 for their cable), 6 bucks for a 2 buck spark plug made me choke a bit I must admit but the air filters seemed resonable. Might be too late, but 10-packs of NGK plugs for the eu2000 are around eighteen bucks at Amazon if I remember correctly. I should have included a link earlier in the thread-sorry about that brother. Posted Via AR15.Com Mobile |
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When they sell a parallel kit they are likely to make a LOT of money because there is NOTHING to justify the $$$$ the dealers sell the kit for. Make one yourself for a few $. I didnt really have a problem with the 40 bucks for the paralell cable(if im spending 1800 for two gennies id spend the 40 for their cable), 6 bucks for a 2 buck spark plug made me choke a bit I must admit but the air filters seemed resonable. Might be too late, but 10-packs of NGK plugs for the eu2000 are around eighteen bucks at Amazon if I remember correctly. I should have included a link earlier in the thread-sorry about that brother. Posted Via AR15.Com Mobile no worries, just added to my next amazon order, thanks for the heads up |
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Quoted:...A simple suicide cord with std plugs on each end to each genny would work fine as long as no one touched the prongs when connecting it.
...Well if you use up your suicide cord to parallel your gennies, how are you going to hook the gennies to the house then?
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...Well if you use up your suicide cord to parallel your gennies, how are you going to hook the gennies to the house then?
Make a TRIPLE Suicide Cord and plug one of the ends into the house!
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...Well if you use up your suicide cord to parallel your gennies, how are you going to hook the gennies to the house then?
Make a TRIPLE Suicide Cord and plug one of the ends into the house!
Genius!
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Uncool (and other new eu2000i owners): Here is a startup and operation checklist I made a while back that I keep laminated with each genset-both at home for my family and at work for my tech staff. You are welcome to use it if you want-just click on the link below to download the pdf. Feel free to modify it as needed to make it your own
PDF download link My wife was pretty intimidated at the thought of running our gensets, but this helped her to get over that fear. It could also be helpful to you when you stumble out of bed bleary-eyed at 2AM to deal with an unexpected power outage. |
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Tried to load the sound test, but my ipad is not playing nice right now. Here we go: <a href="http://s241.photobucket.com/albums/ff124/flytosail/?action=view¤t=IMGP8305.mp4" target="_blank">http://i241.photobucket.com/albums/ff124/flytosail/th_IMGP8305.jpg</a> Click on photo. Running with 300 watt load. Sweet Jesus that thing is quiet.THat just may have tipped me over to getting one. |
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Tried to load the sound test, but my ipad is not playing nice right now. Here we go: <a href="http://s241.photobucket.com/albums/ff124/flytosail/?action=view¤t=IMGP8305.mp4" target="_blank">http://i241.photobucket.com/albums/ff124/flytosail/th_IMGP8305.jpg</a> Click on photo. Running with 300 watt load. Sweet Jesus that thing is quiet.THat just may have tipped me over to getting one. I just fired mine up....they are more quiet in person than they are on video....I was shocked how quiet.............Now Honda, when you put a no oil sticker on it and say it holds 13.8 oz when I put 12 in it it shouldnt overflow .....what a freakin mess on my front porch......and honda, why no fuel shut off ?? All you guys with one, how do you deaL with no way to run the carb dry ? |
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I just fired mine up....they are more quiet in person than they are on video....I was shocked how quiet.............Now Honda, when you put a no oil sticker on it and say it holds 13.8 oz when I put 12 in it it shouldnt overflow .....what a freakin mess on my front porch......and honda, why no fuel shut off ?? All you guys with one, how do you deaL with no way to run the carb dry ? I'm fairly certain that they ship with a small amount of oil in the crankcase...though I can't remember for sure. While I haven't done this to either of mine yet, I do know someone who installed a small petcock on his fuel line. He accesses it by removing the side panel. However, you can drain the carb easily with fuel in the tank-there is a set screw under the carb bowl attached to the piece of fuel line that vents out the side on the lower left of the access hatch. Although EXPY will undoubtedly give me hell, my eu2000 that hasn't been converted to tri-fuel (the one in the video above) is stored with a full tank with Pri-G added. So far so good
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I've put small fuel filters with a sintered element in the second 2000 a week ago and actually took pix for a topic.
I need to post how to do it but am overloaded at the moment. Think the issues I have with them is more a dust related thing than anything related to the fuel because as soon as I clean the carb they run fine for an indefinate time maybe months on same fuel until they start surging at idle and then it's just a couple minutes to blow out the carb and OK again. I'll slowly pin it down... We don't run them for long periods since we got solar, just to run a microwave or this and that, briefly. Sometimes one of them not at all, just fails w/ surging when I randomly test it. If I can't pin it down, I might try some additive [yes I have some Stabil].
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I just fired mine up....they are more quiet in person than they are on video....I was shocked how quiet.............Now Honda, when you put a no oil sticker on it and say it holds 13.8 oz when I put 12 in it it shouldnt overflow .....what a freakin mess on my front porch......and honda, why no fuel shut off ?? All you guys with one, how do you deaL with no way to run the carb dry ? I'm fairly certain that they ship with a small amount of oil in the crankcase...though I can't remember for sure. While I haven't done this to either of mine yet, I do know someone who installed a small petcock on his fuel line. He accesses it by removing the side panel. However, you can drain the carb easily with fuel in the tank-there is a set screw under the carb bowl attached to the piece of fuel line that vents out the side on the lower left of the access hatch. Although EXPY will undoubtedly give me hell, my eu2000 that hasn't been converted to tri-fuel (the one in the video above) is stored with a full tank with Pri-G added. So far so good
I must be blind. I changed the oil in mine yesterday and was looking for a way to shut the fuel off, and didn't see anything like what you mention. Would you mind posting a pic? -Slice I think you need to place one inline as it does not come with it. EXPY37 look at your ims. |
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Tried to load the sound test, but my ipad is not playing nice right now. Here we go: <a href="http://s241.photobucket.com/albums/ff124/flytosail/?action=view¤t=IMGP8305.mp4" target="_blank">http://i241.photobucket.com/albums/ff124/flytosail/th_IMGP8305.jpg</a> Click on photo. Running with 300 watt load. Sweet Jesus that thing is quiet.THat just may have tipped me over to getting one. CJ came up and we tested that side by side with my Genrac 800. As both are quiet, I would go for the Honda 2000 as you can run a fridge on it. My main concern was to run a pellet stove. |
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http://home.comcast.net/~cjan99999/honda_meter.jpg Good lord! do you Armor-All that thing every day?
Mine didn't look that good coming out of the box new.
Nah, that's the insurance pic when it was brand new-you should see it now It only had .4 hours on it when that pic was taken, so it wasn't even broken in yet.
Anything with a substantial dollar value gets a pic taken for insurance purposes, along with a scan of the bill of sale. Makes it a lot harder for the weasel insurance adjusters to play games. ETA: Speaking of insurance maggots, it's important to document and prove the value of your stuff along with insurance photos. Consider the following pic I got around to sending to my insurance weasel a few days ago: http://home.comcast.net/~cjan99999/POK_nozzle.jpg Upon getting the e-mail, my insurance weasel read my e-mail and opened the pic-but never opened the attachment with the bill of sale for the nozzle. He wrote back a snarky reply that said "CJan, on what planet is a garden hose nozzle worth $xxx.xx?"
I wrote back and reminded him to open the other attachment, and informed him that that wasn't a "garden hose nozzle" at all, but a Pok firefighting nozzle with a substantial dollar value attached. That vapid dipshit... Dude... Your garden hose nozzle has a pistol grip. I want it! No, that's the shoulder thing that goes up
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I just fired mine up....they are more quiet in person than they are on video....I was shocked how quiet.............Now Honda, when you put a no oil sticker on it and say it holds 13.8 oz when I put 12 in it it shouldnt overflow .....what a freakin mess on my front porch......and honda, why no fuel shut off ?? All you guys with one, how do you deaL with no way to run the carb dry ? I'm fairly certain that they ship with a small amount of oil in the crankcase...though I can't remember for sure. While I haven't done this to either of mine yet, I do know someone who installed a small petcock on his fuel line. He accesses it by removing the side panel. However, you can drain the carb easily with fuel in the tank-there is a set screw under the carb bowl attached to the piece of fuel line that vents out the side on the lower left of the access hatch. Although EXPY will undoubtedly give me hell, my eu2000 that hasn't been converted to tri-fuel (the one in the video above) is stored with a full tank with Pri-G added. So far so good
I must be blind. I changed the oil in mine yesterday and was looking for a way to shut the fuel off, and didn't see anything like what you mention. Would you mind posting a pic? -Slice I think you need to place one inline as it does not come with it. EXPY37 look at your ims. What I'm talking about isn't a shutoff, but a drain screw under the carb bowl attached to a piece of fuel line that vents outside the housing
A small petcock/shutoff would have to be added after the fact-but it's a $10/ten minute project if desired. Slice, I'll post pics later tonight if you can't find it on yours. At the moment I'm helping a co-worker install a pellet stove in his new house, as well as adding a circuit to his load panel to power it. Posted Via AR15.Com Mobile |
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Quoted: What I'm talking about isn't a shutoff, but a drain screw under the carb bowl attached to a piece of fuel line that vents outside the housing A small petcock/shutoff would have to be added after the fact-but it's a $10/ten minute project if desired. Slice, I'll post pics later tonight if you can't find it on yours. At the moment I'm helping a co-worker install a pellet stove in his new house, as well as adding a circuit to his load panel to power it. Posted Via AR15.Com Mobile Actually, the off/on switch on the EU2000 also shuts the fuel pump off......however, after having had to learn how to break down the carb and de-varnish the jet and other parts, I have learned to run the unit until dry. If you don't really want to be forced to learn about the inside of your carb, you may want to consider getting into the habits of both running the genset dry and also draining the floatbowl as CJan_NH refered to. |
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What I'm talking about isn't a shutoff, but a drain screw under the carb bowl attached to a piece of fuel line that vents outside the housing
A small petcock/shutoff would have to be added after the fact-but it's a $10/ten minute project if desired. Slice, I'll post pics later tonight if you can't find it on yours. At the moment I'm helping a co-worker install a pellet stove in his new house, as well as adding a circuit to his load panel to power it. Posted Via AR15.Com Mobile Actually, the off/on switch on the EU2000 also shuts the fuel pump off......however, after having had to learn how to break down the carb and de-varnish the jet and other parts, I have learned to run the unit until dry. If you don't really want to be forced to learn about the inside of your carb, you may want to consider getting into the habits of both running the genset dry and also draining the floatbowl as CJan_NH refered to. So it has a fuel pump and not just gravity feed ? I was thinking it was gravity feed and when you closed the gas cap vent it wouldnt allow it to continue to feed the card and the set screw was to drain any gas allready in the carb......for 900 bucks, they should have put a shut off on it |