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5/22/2012 6:52:25 PM EDT
I was at my local Rural King today buying a car battery and came across a solar battery maintainer.  It is a small 2.4 watt (.2 amp) trickle charger designed specifically for keeping a battery topped off.

I picked one up, since they were only $30, to give it a try.  After reading the manual, I have a couple questions.

The manual says that it is only to be used as a maintainer and that charging a partially discharged battery with it may cause the battery to lose capacity.  Anyone here know why or how that would happen?  I was under the impression that a trickle charge was the best way to prevent a battery from losing capacity, not the other way around.

Also, it mentions that it must be unhooked prior to starting or running a vehicle because electrical surges from the alternator may damage it.  Would I be able to get around this by using a relay that breaks the circuit whenever the ignition is on or by using a diode to prevent current from backfeeding into the maintainer?  Would this be a problem with a system that doesn't have an alternator?  I was thinking about using this on my upcoming HAM EMCOMM box build which obviously will not have one.
5/22/2012 6:59:39 PM EDT
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The manual says that it is only to be used as a maintainer and that charging a partially discharged battery with it may cause the battery to lose capacity.  Anyone here know why or how that would happen?


Recharging a lead-acid battery requires a considerably higher voltage than simply maintaining it:

Charge voltage: approx. 14.5 V
Maintenance voltage: approx. 13.5 V

If the solar maintainer only produces 13.5 volts under load, it will not bring the battery up to anywhere near a full charge - and chronically undercharging a lead-acid battery can result in a permanent loss of capacity.
5/22/2012 7:09:49 PM EDT
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The manual says that it is only to be used as a maintainer and that charging a partially discharged battery with it may cause the battery to lose capacity.  Anyone here know why or how that would happen?


Recharging a lead-acid battery requires a considerably higher voltage than simply maintaining it:

Charge voltage: approx. 14.5 V
Maintenance voltage: approx. 13.5 V

If the solar maintainer only produces 13.5 volts under load, it will not bring the battery up to anywhere near a full charge - and chronically undercharging a lead-acid battery can result in a permanent loss of capacity.


The specs show "Optimum Working Voltage" at 17.5 volts.  Would this vary based on sun conditions or would voltage remain constant while amperage would vary?

ETA:  Also, am I on the right track with wiring with a diode or relay?
5/22/2012 7:12:39 PM EDT
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The manual says that it is only to be used as a maintainer and that charging a partially discharged battery with it may cause the battery to lose capacity.  Anyone here know why or how that would happen?


Recharging a lead-acid battery requires a considerably higher voltage than simply maintaining it:

Charge voltage: approx. 14.5 V
Maintenance voltage: approx. 13.5 V

If the solar maintainer only produces 13.5 volts under load, it will not bring the battery up to anywhere near a full charge - and chronically undercharging a lead-acid battery can result in a permanent loss of capacity.


The specs show "Optimum Working Voltage" at 17.5 volts.  Would this vary based on sun conditions or would voltage remain constant while amperage would vary?

ETA:  Also, am I on the right track with wiring with a diode or relay?


It's too small to produce anywhere near 17.5 volts with a partially-discharged battery - which is why they recommend only using it to maintain fully-charged batteries.
5/22/2012 7:50:20 PM EDT
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The solar panel will act as a current source per it's current rating.

Depending on the size of the battery, it could possibly over charge it at the point 2 amp charge rate. If it's limited to 13.5 VDC, this won't happen tho. The information you're providing seems uncertain.

Yes, you could use a relay to take it out of the circuit when your ign sw is on.

No, putting a diode in series with it will drop the voltage from it .3 to .7 volts and sort of defeat it's purpose.

You need to connect it to a smallish battery and take some readings as it trickle charges the battery and post them here.