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4/21/2012 7:17:45 PM EDT
Im  going to buy all 3 EVENTUALLY  but as to what to buy first I'm Stumped

1 complete 22lr upper
2 Advantage arms glock upper
3 ruger 10/22 in stainless with buter creek flolder

on hand i have a 22 revolver and a 10/22  

yes yes I know about all other preps etc etc

both the uppers would be for teaching the kids to shoot  iv gotten a glock 19 for for each of them and am currently working (abet slowly) on building AR's

4/21/2012 7:34:50 PM EDT
[#1]
I have all three and love them all. My family shoots the Ar upper more than the other two platforms combine. They like the AA G-17 upper next and they do not care as much for the 10-22. I am considering selling/trading the 10-22..



So I would ask, what does your family shoot the most? What platform are you wanting to have your family to begin working on mastering first?



I started with an AA Glock 17 upper and went from there.



Just my .02,



Amos1909
4/21/2012 7:37:00 PM EDT
[#2]
Why do you want/need a folder on a 10/22? The cost of the stock is almost, if not more than, the actual rifle. In my opinion the stock adds nothing to the rifle in terms of shooting capabilty, and it certainly takes away from acheiving a good sight picture and cheek weld.  A folder may be handy, but in reality it's a .22-it's not heavy or cumbersome to begin with.
4/22/2012 5:15:46 AM EDT
[#3]
Quoted:
Why do you want/need a folder on a 10/22? The cost of the stock is almost, if not more than, the actual rifle. In my opinion the stock adds nothing to the rifle in terms of shooting capabilty, and it certainly takes away from acheiving a good sight picture and cheek weld.  A folder may be handy, but in reality it's a .22-it's not heavy or cumbersome to begin with.


Agree.  I bought one of those combined folding/adjustable stocks and never use the folding feature.  The adjustable stock bit is awesome though - the stock has a pistol grip, pic rail sections on the fore end, adjustable cheek riser and of course the stock has a 6 position adjustable length of pull.  This makes it usable by anyone including kids.

Next to the target barrel the stock was the best addition to my 10/22 and well worth the money.

OP may also want to consider a ruger mark II type pistol.  They're cheap, accurate, built like absolute tanks and extremely reliable.  You will pass it on to your kids.

http://www.cabelas.com/10-22-accessories-ati-10-22-adjustable-folding-stock-1.shtml?WT.tsrc=CSE&WT.mc_id=GoogleBaseUSA&WT.z_mc_id1=709231&rid=40&mr:trackingCode=2212DE51-F5D2-DF11-82EF-001B21631C34&mr:referralID=NA

4/22/2012 5:54:44 AM EDT
[#4]
You actually have them listed the way i would suggest purchasing.
I own all 3 if i were buying again today thats how i would get them.

Well i'm not sure i'd even bother with a 10/22 like that anymore i have a stainless with folder haven't shot it in over 3yrs probably.
Once i got into 22 conversions for ar's just wasn't a point to it anymore.

The ar and glock conversions work for training purposes to an extent and loads of fun.....
4/22/2012 6:34:09 AM EDT
[#5]
if you are looking at a CMMG conversion... if you can afford it go with the dedicated .22lr upper... I shot about 800 rounds in my back up gas tube carbine for Ft Benning one year with their 5.56 chamber insert system... a lot of blowback powder and lead residue in the upper, and accuracy was no better than 3" at 50y, but worked flawlessly... then it dawned on me that I didn't need the gas tube as it was a blow back action... following year for practice for Ft Benning, pulled off the front sight tower and gas tube, plugged hole with a screw hose clamp... 1000 rounds, much cleaner... still poor accuracy(bullet jump and oversize barrel)... finally got one of their dedicated barrels (you remove the chamber adapter and add the feed ramp attachment, fits over a stepped down section of barrel)....much more accurate, and will shoot with my 10/22 STC gun under 50y... very happy, and have used it to introduce AR platform to several

the dedicated barrel was $100, upper and charging handle from BCM about $100, had a full float tube on hand, or could use take off handguards
original conversion with extra mag about $190

I like to use it on reactive steel at 50y

a concern for inexperienced shooters that rely on mechanical devices, my kit does not have the bolt hold open on the last shot, there is one available
4/23/2012 7:38:13 AM EDT
[#6]
As ARs go, get the dedicated upper.  Lowers are also pretty cheap and you don't need a buffer or spring in them, either.  If I were to buy an additional .22LR AR, I would go with the CMMG complete upper and build out a lower.
4/23/2012 10:13:58 AM EDT
[#7]
I've had a lot of hell with my AA Glock conversion. It is on a dedicated 3rd Gen frame. It is VERY picky about ammo. The only ammo that will run 95% or better is- Remington Golden Bullets, Federal 710 and Automatch, CCI Mini Mags and Centurion 40 gr. LRN. That's it. Not one damn type of ammo from Winchester- including Dynapoints, no CCI Blazer, no Federal bulk. With the ammo that it likes it will run between 95-100%. Accuracy is good. I keep the gun clean and lubed, it has about 2000 rounds on it so far. It has gotten better from when new but still is not 100% like a "real" .22 pistol like a Ruger MK II or a Buckmark.
4/23/2012 10:38:20 AM EDT
[#8]
Train them on what their going to shoot and buy accordingly.
4/23/2012 11:37:38 AM EDT
[#9]
Quoted:
Im  going to buy all 3 EVENTUALLY  but as to what to buy first I'm Stumped

1 complete 22lr upper
2 Advantage arms glock upper
3 ruger 10/22 in stainless with buter creek flolder

on hand i have a 22 revolver and a 10/22  

yes yes I know about all other preps etc etc

both the uppers would be for teaching the kids to shoot  iv gotten a glock 19 for for each of them and am currently working (abet slowly) on building AR's



I would buy a .22 conversion for kit for the AR and the AA glock kit and call it a day.

You could get both for the price of the complete 22 upper.

4/23/2012 12:07:57 PM EDT
[#10]
History has shown us that you need to purchase all three, now. Our government may change things in the near future.
4/24/2012 6:59:07 AM EDT
[#11]
Quoted:
History has shown us that you need to purchase all three, now. Our government may change things in the near future.


Umm.....OK.
4/24/2012 7:20:05 AM EDT
[#12]
Quoted:
Quoted:
History has shown us that you need to purchase all three, now. Our government may change things in the near future.


Umm.....OK.


I don't find anything odd about that. Take a look at where he's from....he's right.....
4/24/2012 12:46:10 PM EDT
[#13]
The big plus to getting the 10/22 is having another armed family member. Unless of course they all have thier own AR's.

It's one thing to take turns shooting 1 gun at the range, it's another to only have 1 gun when you have 5 family members and a mob headed toward your house. Little Billy could probally easily tote a 10/22 slung over his sholder vs carrying a conversion kit which is usless in a firefight.

Also nix the folding stock, they aren't long guns to begin with and it's goofy feeling and makes it weigh more. I've had a couple 10/22's for 15+ years, use one of them weekly (the stainless) and have never once, ever, said to myself "Man I wish I had a folding stock on this thing"
4/24/2012 6:01:29 PM EDT
[#14]
I would buy 'hicap' mags for the dedicated .22 upper and the 10/22 first as that is about the only thing that could be banned in the near future.

IME, of the three, the dedicated upper is the most fun, followed by the Glock conversion.  
4/24/2012 6:41:38 PM EDT
[#15]
I'm going to take the opposing position here and say that the 10/22 is far more practical than the other two options. If scoped, it would actually be your main meat getting gun if you had to go that route. The sight offset with AR conversion kits/uppers makes popping squirrel heads at unknown ranges difficult at times. I know this from personal experience. Might I also suggest that you take a look at the .22 detachable mag fed bolt gun. They have the option of feeding shorts and CB caps. Very useful if you live in a non suppressor friendly state or don't have the cash to go class III. Good luck with whatever you decide.
4/24/2012 11:19:44 PM EDT
[#16]
Quoted:
I'm going to take the opposing position here and say that the 10/22 is far more practical than the other two options. If scoped, it would actually be your main meat getting gun if you had to go that route. The sight offset with AR conversion kits/uppers makes popping squirrel heads at unknown ranges difficult at times. I know this from personal experience. Might I also suggest that you take a look at the .22 detachable mag fed bolt gun. They have the option of feeding shorts and CB caps. Very useful if you live in a non suppressor friendly state or don't have the cash to go class III. Good luck with whatever you decide.


I totally agree. Adding a 10/22 to your already-functioning AR and Glock would round out your arsenal, not detract from its effectiveness by the necessity to stop and convert one from its original caliber to .22LR.

-but-

There's no denying that having a cheaper way to train with the AR and Glock is priceless.

4/27/2012 1:59:00 AM EDT
[#17]
i am going to offer a suggestion....  

what about a Ruger 10/22 take down ?  

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tVnxf73KKks

i really like mine and it is easy to store and carry...  


S
4/27/2012 4:05:20 AM EDT
[#18]
My suggestion is to deviate from your list and go Ruger MKII and Suppressor.  From a prepping perspective a suppressed 22.r offers more to me than multiple 22lr firearms.
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