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5/20/2011 1:47:39 AM EDT
I came across this blog tonight (midnight shift gets awfully boring) and saw some relevence to SF. Here is an excerpt from his book.

"
...This requires liberating ourselves from failed models of credit expansion,
resource depletion, financial looting and a counterfeit prosperity built entirely on debt.
I immediately ran into several great difficulties. Many others had foreseen the same calamity,
and their focus narrowed on individual survival: relocating to a remote/sustainable spot and
preparing for societal collapse by stockpiling self-defense and food.
While prudent and practical on a short-term timeline, this response struck me as incomplete
on several levels. Most importantly, stockpiling six months' supplies would not sustain anyone
through a 20-year Crisis and Transformation; their own Crisis was simply being delayed a
relatively short time. In other words: "what happens in month seven"?
Secondly, many "survivalist" proponents focus on individual preparation, as if a single person
or household can prosper without a stable, caring community for reciprocal support. This notion
ran counter not just to my own experience but to all of human history. While I understood the
desire to "opt out" and become an Isolationist––a solution to general turmoil which has roots going
back to the dissolution of the Roman Empire and the Warring States era in ancient China––I felt a
more practical, longer-term option to Isolationism should also be presented.
The second great difficulty is that individuals, households and communities exist in larger
units: city-states, counties, nations and continents. Even if nation-states were to break apart, the
world would remain tightly interconnected. Events, weather, shortages and surpluses in distant
places would continue to impact us all. States (by which I mean all forms of government) will
continue to extend control over resources and wealth.
Trade has been a key component of security and prosperity since the dawn of civilization.
Long before fossil fuels dominated the global economy, land and sea trade in both goods and
innovations bound Asia, the Mideast and Europe. Thus a retreat to isolated islands of selfsufficiency,
while understandable and practical on one level, does not align with what history
teaches us about prosperity. Prosperity ultimately depends on stable communities, surplus
production and trade. These essentials have been largely ignored in analyses of the coming
Great Transformation....


Here is the address for his blog.....

http://www.oftwominds.com/blog.html
5/20/2011 3:57:01 AM EDT
[#1]
The point that author is missing, at least in that excerpt, is that although 6 month of food will not get you through a 20 year crisis, it is 6 months more than most people have and will help get you through the beginning of the transition, keep you out of the potential violent beginning, and maybe help survive the initial dieoff and chaos as 99% of the people scramble to find something to eat and take it out on each other.

Based on those comments, I would question anything he says, because it seems like he hasn't thought it through very well and sounds like he has a liberal attitude. ( ETA: talks about govt job of protecting the individual and that it takes a village, typical liberal drivel )

I admit that drawing this conclusion may not be fair on such a short excerpt.
5/20/2011 4:05:19 AM EDT
[#2]
Sounds like the author isn't prepared and is afraid to admit there may be a problem.   Oh well, if he just writes a smart sounding rationalization about how preparing wont help, then all will be okay.





"Nature cannot be fooled."
5/20/2011 5:39:06 AM EDT
[#3]
Quoted:
The point that author is missing, at least in that excerpt, is that although 6 month of food will not get you through a 20 year crisis, it is 6 months more than most people have and will help get you through the beginning of the transition, keep you out of the potential violent beginning, and maybe help survive the initial dieoff and chaos as 99% of the people scramble to find something to eat and take it out on each other.

Based on those comments, I would question anything he says, because it seems like he hasn't thought it through very well and sounds like he has a liberal attitude. ( ETA: talks about govt job of protecting the individual and that it takes a village, typical liberal drivel )

I admit that drawing this conclusion may not be fair on such a short excerpt.


I agree.

He seems to think that someone can't live by themselves out in the middle of nowhere. While I agree that it may not be easy, there have been many cases of people doing just that. And who's to say that a half dozen people couldn't make it work? One advantage of smaller groups is that they're a lot easier to maintain and keep secret.

And the 6 months of food thing is simply to give you time to get going on being self sufficient. He seems to think that none of us have thought past that point.

Az
5/20/2011 6:22:08 AM EDT
[#4]
Smith is a liberal. He also has the answers to all our economic problems, of course.

That book of his is "Survival+: Structuring Prosperity for Yourself and the Nation." goes for $20. What you get is a book of his rantings and no survival info.

He has had several articles on just how stupid survivalists are and how they will feel the mighty fury of locals when they come of of their retreats.

Idiot.
5/20/2011 8:06:57 AM EDT
[#5]
From the article snip:
"Even if nation-states were to break apart, the world would remain tightly interconnected."

This ain't necessarily so. Momma used to have a saying when one of us kids would bring up some irrelevancy, "What's that got to do with the price of tea in China?" There was a time not too long ago when it really didn't matter what was happening on the other side of the world. If things break down, it will be that way again.