Posted: 2/28/2011 5:54:27 PM EDT
| Need some help fairly quickly. I have finally gotten ahead in my finances for once and want to purchase some long term storage foods. My first choice was Mountain House, as I have used it in the past, but it's not available for awhile I understand. OK, what else IS available and is as good a quality? Need info, things are going to crap and I am a bit concerned. Thanks |
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I believe its the MH #10 cans that are being held up but you can still get the pouches. How much are you looking at getting there are some #10 cans in stock . hear and they have the pouches Also check out these links below.
http://theepicenter.com/cgi/order.cgi?page=freeze_dried_and_dehydrated.html&cart_id= http://store.honeyvillegrain.com/ |
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You can dehydrate some food for longer term storage but freeze dried is better for it....although its not very plentyful at the moment.
You can get a canner and have seeds for a garden and plant and can foods, You can buy canned goods, but watch the expiration dates, buy what you eat and like first. You can buy flour, yeast, dehydrated milk and eggs...I freeze them for a few days then vaccum pack them and keep in a freezer...that way yeast keeps longer. once you freeze it you kill any bugs that might be in it and it helps keep it from going bad...this way you can make bread, noodles ect. MRE main meals are sold, so you don't need to spend as much for the whole thing, incase you don't need all of the accessories that come in it, you can buy the rest of the mre extras from other places and save tons of cash. get rice, freeze and vaccum seal, beans, ect. Find a LDS cannery and go apeshit!!! Sometimes you have to make do with what you have and we don't have freeze dried foods as plentyful as they use to be...good luck..enjoy and have fun with it, Remember your only limited by your imagination. |
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Everything I ordered from Honeyville Farms this weekend has already shipped. If they do not have it in stock, it says so before you try to load it in your basket. I have been getting a lot of back orders with some of the other vendors that I use regularly. PITA. Past experience has taught me that the back ordered items usually ship a lot sooner than the vendors estimate. And as long as they are not charging my card until the item ships, it's not a real problem.
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To get the most bang for your buck I would start with basics if you don't have them. For around $500 you could get a couple hundred pounds rice and black beans. 100 lbs sugar. 100 lbs salt. 100 lbs spaghetti and cans of cheap sauce. Some canned veggies with whats left over. You are set for a long time in an emergency. At least you won't starve.
Then work on getting some mylar bags and O2 absorbers to pack your stuff with and buy more bulk beans, rice, grains, and pack it. I packed mine in gallon bags from LDS and put them in tote storage containers in my storage room. IMO freeze dried stuff is an expensive luxury. Not sayin' it doesn't have it's place, just if you don't have the basics which are cheap now then get them first. It doesn't cost much to set 2 people up for a year with basics including powdered milk and dried egg powder. Then build around the storage base you have started. JMHO 
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look at the LDS website or local cannery Yep First off, I'd buy a years worth of what you eat today that is canned (how many cans you bought last years) . This might be oil, tuna, veggies, chili, cheese whiz, etc. If you bought MH at today's prices, you would pay about $20/2000 calories, or $1/100 calories. keep this figure in mind if you seen green beans for 0.50/can. They, since you want MH, buy one pouch of each flavor of interest. For now this is storage food, but you would want to try if before buying a case anyway, but wait until Mh becomes more available. MH's biggest feature is 25 year shelf life, and you loose that with pouches. Fill in with staples from LDS, or home packed rice, beans, grains, grits, pasta, etc. You need oils, Crisco stores the longest, but other oils taste better and are better for you. |
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Quoted: Quoted: look at the LDS website or local cannery Yep First off, I'd buy a years worth of what you eat today that is canned (how many cans you bought last years) . This might be oil, tuna, veggies, chili, cheese whiz, etc. If you bought MH at today's prices, you would pay about $20/2000 calories, or $1/100 calories. keep this figure in mind if you seen green beans for 0.50/can. They, since you want MH, buy one pouch of each flavor of interest. For now this is storage food, but you would want to try if before buying a case anyway, but wait until Mh becomes more available. MH's biggest feature is 25 year shelf life, and you loose that with pouches. Fill in with staples from LDS, or home packed rice, beans, grains, grits, pasta, etc. You need oils, Crisco stores the longest, but other oils taste better and are better for you. I posted this before. a can of soup avg's around 100 cals per serving.( the only ones i saw that werent were the 2 serving extra loaded campbells super chunky extra beefy cans which run 140-160 cals x2 servings per can) so 100 cals per can. canned 1 serving mix veggies run 35-50 cals canned black eye peas run 110 cals. so lets say you run 6 cans of food per person per day for a whopping grand total of 700 cals if that. that works out to 42 cans every 7 days, 168 cans per month , and 2016 cans per year( for ONE person) At 700 cals. at an avg of lets say 1$ per can. thats 2016$ 2+k$ to have a 700 cal diet. No remember that can goods like spam, canned ham, treet etc all run at the 2$ per can mark. If you used even 2 cans a day you'd double your cost and the amount of cans on hand. It would be wiser for folks to buy their basic LTS items, 1st ( rice,beans,salt,sugars, pastas, dehydrated food items) and self pack or buy. And supplement them with wet packs or MH when it becomes more available. |
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Quoted: I posted this before. a can of soup avg's around 100 cals per serving.( the only ones i saw that werent were the 2 serving extra loaded campbells super chunky extra beefy cans which run 140-160 cals x2 servings per can) so 100 cals per can. canned 1 serving mix veggies run 35-50 cals canned black eye peas run 110 cals. so lets say you run 6 cans of food per person per day for a whopping grand total of 700 cals if that. that works out to 42 cans every 7 days, 168 cans per month , and 2016 cans per year( for ONE person) At 700 cals. at an avg of lets say 1$ per can. thats 2016$ 2+k$ to have a 700 cal diet. No remember that can goods like spam, canned ham, treet etc all run at the 2$ per can mark. If you used even 2 cans a day you'd double your cost and the amount of cans on hand. It would be wiser for folks to buy their basic LTS items, 1st ( rice,beans,salt,sugars, pastas, dehydrated food items) and self pack or buy. And supplement them with wet packs or MH when it becomes more available. Think I will go back to the store and buy more Stagg Chili... 500-700 calories per can (depending on type), on sale right now for $1 each. You could replace 4-5 cans a day and still maintain a 700 cal diet at a fraction of the cost. Not to mention you will take in more protein with chili then soups/veg. I'm also missing where you are getting only 700 cals from 6 cans a day. As you stated, the soup cans are double serving cans, so each of them will be 2-300 for 1 can. I look at a can of corn and it is over 200 cals for the whole can... |
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Quoted: Quoted: I posted this before. a can of soup avg's around 100 cals per serving.( the only ones i saw that werent were the 2 serving extra loaded campbells super chunky extra beefy cans which run 140-160 cals x2 servings per can) so 100 cals per can. canned 1 serving mix veggies run 35-50 cals canned black eye peas run 110 cals. so lets say you run 6 cans of food per person per day for a whopping grand total of 700 cals if that. that works out to 42 cans every 7 days, 168 cans per month , and 2016 cans per year( for ONE person) At 700 cals. at an avg of lets say 1$ per can. thats 2016$ 2+k$ to have a 700 cal diet. No remember that can goods like spam, canned ham, treet etc all run at the 2$ per can mark. If you used even 2 cans a day you'd double your cost and the amount of cans on hand. It would be wiser for folks to buy their basic LTS items, 1st ( rice,beans,salt,sugars, pastas, dehydrated food items) and self pack or buy. And supplement them with wet packs or MH when it becomes more available. Think I will go back to the store and buy more Stagg Chili... 500-700 calories per can (depending on type), on sale right now for $1 each. You could replace 4-5 cans a day and still maintain a 700 cal diet at a fraction of the cost. Not to mention you will take in more protein with chili then soups/veg. I'm also missing where you are getting only 700 cals from 6 cans a day. As you stated, the soup cans are double serving cans, so each of them will be 2-300 for 1 can. I look at a can of corn and it is over 200 cals for the whole can... single serv soups run 100-140 cals from what ive looked at.which is where i came up with 700 cals a day ( give or take take the 10-30 cal variance) The 200+ cal ones are the 2 serving chunky,loaded, campbells style. They also cost twice as much as the single serv. |
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Quoted: single serv soups run 100-140 cals from what ive looked at.which is where i came up with 700 cals a day ( give or take take the 10-30 cal variance) The 200+ cal ones are the 2 serving chunky,loaded, campbells style. They also cost twice as much as the single serv. Roger. I don't buy the single servings. Have about 60 cans of the Chunky soup right now, none were over $1 a can and most were around $0.65 per. |
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Quoted: single servs here run 10 for 10$ with a buyers card.Quoted: single serv soups run 100-140 cals from what ive looked at.which is where i came up with 700 cals a day ( give or take take the 10-30 cal variance) The 200+ cal ones are the 2 serving chunky,loaded, campbells style. They also cost twice as much as the single serv. Roger. I don't buy the single servings. Have about 60 cans of the Chunky soup right now, none were over $1 a can and most were around $0.65 per. the fancier ones run 1-1.50$ on avg. like most things its regional. produce is cheap here,,but meats cost more, whereas its reversed elsewhere. |