[ARCHIVED THREAD] - I quit (Page 1 of 3)
Posted: 2/19/2011 8:54:51 PM EDT
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The polls I post are nonsensical The questions I ask have self evident answers When there's a series of deleted threads about EMP I ask "what if this is true, how should I prepare" I'm ripped a new ass for not knowing better, but never get an answer I'm fat and diabetic (not necessarily in that order), so I deserve to "die off" I don't sleep with a gun, because I'm afraid my 4-year-old might wake up before me I don't think that I need a bullet-proof house, because I perceive the threat of zombies emptying an M60 into a sq ft of my exterior or an A-10 attack a remote threat I ABSOLUTELY sent my gift for the gift exchange on time and was quite satisfied with the one I received Is it me, or has this place gone to hell? I have a paid membership because of the SF. I now find myself debating the logic of that decision...  -Slice And yes, I'll be back. But damn... 4 |
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Hi Slice, Relax, you didn't wake up one day and say "I'm in teh mood for sumpthin' nu so I'll go catch the dibetus." You have been a survivalist for years with a condition that some of my family FEAR. I'm gonna post this now but I'll probably edit some things in. This may land on the page in a stream-of-consciousness kind of way, and my grammar is weak to start with, so hang on. Slice I like your posts. If you are bothered about some threat. I'll post an answer or PM you if I think I can help. If I don't know anything and/or have no opinion I'll keep my mouth shut. You have seen me do some or all of this. I grew up in a house where I was told that I had teh dibetus because I like orange juice. Yes they were serious. You want to talk about some survival frustration: Every survival kit has fish hooks in it. When I started in survivalism, it was 50 miles or more to fish. What do I do with for 20 years as a survivalist I did not buy the survival stuff because I had no use for the fish hooks. You know I have some strong opinions about some threats, and some traditional survival things. ~I don't like bolt action rifles. If you own one I'm happy if you are happy, and I'll even buy ammo and shoot it with you, but I don't shop for bolt action for myself. ~I don't make diesel a go/no go criteria for my BOV. I've been round-and-round with several folks that really like diesels; they have some valid points, but in the end a gas BOV fits me better for now. ~I'm not very concerned by EMP. Skibane, Forrest, and ArJedi(sp) put forth some very sound reasons for me not to be bothered by EMP So one of us wants a bullet proof house, and you don't. Should you feel inadequate; I say that you should not. Look at my thread about wearing safety glasses while driving: 1 in 4 or more responses had the attitude that I had no right to be on the SF because I was afraid. Look at my thread from just over a year ago about situational awareness. I was really ripped in that thread. But after you look at all those thoughtless people. Look at the real value of the SF. People that do not bs you... CJan_NH Skibane shibumiseeker donne3 protus halffast acman45acp––Turn your sarcasm meter on though  die-tryin Hawk_308 Feral Forrest TomJefferson You know why I am a team member? I logged on one day and there was an Arfcom logo. I was so shocked that I logged off and back on the see if it was real. Some SFer had gifted me a membership. I really valued that gift because at that time $25 was on the other side of the moon to me. Hope this helps AND I hope you stick around, but I can't make you post. |
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Don't you guys see what's happening, though? More and more people are trying to get into the survival mindset, and they are literally flooding over from GD into here. This is why we see the same questions posted week after week, why we see a new EMP thread or "I'm new, skool me on food storage" thread popping up every day.
The readership of this site - the entire site, not just the SF - is naturally inclined towards our mindset, and they are seeing how things are going and are getting scared, and they are coming here for some info and answers. Sorry, but with the current state of affairs, this is pretty much unavoidable. Don't get discouraged. Giving up is quite frankly about as inconsistent to the survival mindset as you can get. As for the GD-esque quality that this forum seems to be taking on... give them time to learn. Balance will be found here eventually. |
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Well, I can't do much about repeated/similar threads posted by the endless stream of newcomers, but remember that each one of us was a newcomer at some point.
What I CAN do something about is violations of the CoC, which is stricter in Technical Fora, such as this Forum, than in non-Tech Fora. NO WAY does anyone want this Forum to become anything even approaching GD. If anyone sees what they believe to be a legitimate CoC violation, or even excessive thread drift/inappropriate thread, then report it to the Mods and Staff. Use the report button. The Mods and Staff can't possibly see every last thread and post, so it is up to all of us to help them do their jobs. |
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Hey, we all have questions about things that we are unsure of, thats why we post/ ask them here.
Forums are for speaking your thoughts and sharing your knowledge with others. We want info from like minded people....I do think that this forum has changed in the few years I have been lurking here. There are some smart ass kids or just ignorant jackasses, wanna be smartasses here sometimes. Remember, there are many here who have forgot more info, then the smartass kids even know..They think they know more or just post whatever they want to be cool or cute.. 
You might have medical problems and you might be over weight...so what, most of the people here probably are...all that means is when the SHTF you have a larger suppy of food for you!!  ...lol. Keep your chin up.
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Chin up, Slice, don't give up. I'm fat and diabetic too, and I know how you feel.
You've got to understand that its the time of year for many of us. Winter has been hard on all of us this year, and it shows in the posts we write. Skins are pretty thin. Heck, mine is usually pretty thin anyway! Let this forum crap roll off you like water on a duck's back, brother. Please stay. We need you. 
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Don't you guys see what's happening, though? More and more people are trying to get into the survival mindset, and they are literally flooding over from GD into here. This is why we see the same questions posted week after week, why we see a new EMP thread or "I'm new, skool me on food storage" thread popping up every day. The readership of this site - the entire site, not just the SF - is naturally inclined towards our mindset, and they are seeing how things are going and are getting scared, and they are coming here for some info and answers. Sorry, but with the current state of affairs, this is pretty much unavoidable. Don't get discouraged. Giving up is quite frankly about as inconsistent to the survival mindset as you can get. As for the GD-esque quality that this forum seems to be taking on... give them time to learn. Balance will be found here eventually. This! |
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The following is just my opinion.
Different people handle stress differently. When most have a decent job and life looks rosey talking about SF or SHTF stuff is an abstract discussion, people have it and then they go off line to cook a nice big steak, plan their $5,000 vacation and decide what new car they will buy next. Then the events of the last 3 years start to happen and the realization hits slowly that the shit is really beginning to hit the fan in the US and around the world. It's no longer abstract discussion of academics. People start to see a real need for getting prepped or finishing preps or realizing they just don't have the money to prep the way they see a need and the time is critical, they don't have a long time to prep anymore. People start to get stressed and the discussion takes a dump due to the stress level. It comes and goes individually, but it is always on the board. That is what I think is happening. I may be off base though. |
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I wasn't going to say nothing.....but....
We as preppers want to help.....so when you cross that over with the GD mentality......it can get a bit disheartening. like said before.....wheat from the chaff.......hard to do at times....but necessary. 
PS....I don't think EMPs are too much a threat...........but I have a Faraday cage the COMM box goes into when not in use.....is that weird? |
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Don't you guys see what's happening, though? More and more people are trying to get into the survival mindset, and they are literally flooding over from GD into here. This is why we see the same questions posted week after week, why we see a new EMP thread or "I'm new, skool me on food storage" thread popping up every day. The readership of this site - the entire site, not just the SF - is naturally inclined towards our mindset, and they are seeing how things are going and are getting scared, and they are coming here for some info and answers. Sorry, but with the current state of affairs, this is pretty much unavoidable. Don't get discouraged. Giving up is quite frankly about as inconsistent to the survival mindset as you can get. As for the GD-esque quality that this forum seems to be taking on... give them time to learn. Balance will be found here eventually. this right here. i have noticed this too. heck i was just mentioning this to my wife not long ago. it comes with the territory, and it will get worse the closer to 2012 we get too... i'm glad some people have opened their eyes a bit, and if it takes fear to do it...then i;m fine with it. |
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I love this forum, or at least I used to / want to... -Slice Take a break for a while. No harm in that. The forum will always be here.
It's natural for there to be ups and downs in how we each feel about this place. It's also natural for veteran posters to have waxing and waning tolerance for answering questions that we've all seen a thousand times. Fortunately, our strength lies in the fact that there are enough experienced folks around that someone will always be up for answering a new person's question. If it's any consolation, Slice,you're on my personal list of posters who are dependable sources of good thoughts and info. Anyhow, take a break for a while if you wish: go to the range, till the garden, pack some buckets. Do some of the things that really matter. Come back refreshed. 
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Slice, I also get frustrated with the EMP threads with the self declared experts who don't have any actual data proving one way or another if its a real threat. Its never happened on a large scale, so prep for it if you want.
What is really weird is that my EMP preps are very, very similar to my economic collapse preps, zombie preps, famine preps, invasion preps, bad weather preps, etc.......... I haven't the foggiest idea how much of a threat it really is, but I am prepared for it. Only a few of my preps are electronic dependent like my PDF's I would hate to loose. Over all I am quiet satisfied if the EMP did the maximum damage I would get through it very well like any other major disaster that took out the power supply. Being prepared means being prepared. I just hope my many, many, many LED lights survive! 
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I love this forum, or at least I used to / want to... -Slice Take a break for a while. No harm in that. The forum will always be here.
It's natural for there to be ups and downs in how we each feel about this place. It's also natural for veteran posters to have waxing and waning tolerance for answering questions that we've all seen a thousand times. Fortunately, our strength lies in the fact that there are enough experienced folks around that someone will always be up for answering a new person's question. If it's any consolation, Slice,you're on my personal list of posters who are dependable sources of good thoughts and info. Anyhow, take a break for a while if you wish: go to the range, till the garden, pack some buckets. Do some of the things that really matter. Come back refreshed.
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Quoted: Don't you guys see what's happening, though? More and more people are trying to get into the survival mindset, and they are literally flooding over from GD into here. This is why we see the same questions posted week after week, why we see a new EMP thread or "I'm new, skool me on food storage" thread popping up every day. The readership of this site - the entire site, not just the SF - is naturally inclined towards our mindset, and they are seeing how things are going and are getting scared, and they are coming here for some info and answers. Sorry, but with the current state of affairs, this is pretty much unavoidable. Don't get discouraged. Giving up is quite frankly about as inconsistent to the survival mindset as you can get. As for the GD-esque quality that this forum seems to be taking on... give them time to learn. Balance will be found here eventually. Maybe we need a "summary thread" with some of the hashed over issues in it. In the thread posts with major issues on that topic, conclusions and criticism, or links to archived threads on the topics? Most of the threads seem to be tacked for events, aside from the DYI one. |
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Maybe we need a "summary thread" with some of the hashed over issues in it. In the thread posts with major issues on that topic, conclusions and criticism, or links to archived threads on the topics? Most of the threads seem to be tacked for events, aside from the DYI one. I think that's part of the problem, sadly. A lot of things relevant to the regular lines of questioning are years old and buried in the archives. I dunno if the archive search has gotten any better since the last time I ponied up $25 or not, but it left a lot to be desired back then. I've considered digging into things and trying to set something up ala 'Chef's Index' and the 'Ham Radio 101' threads. Maybe wholesale pasting some OP threads and replies into newer, non-archived threads, so that they're here and available to point to in one convenient spot. Edit: I do know about the DIY thread, which is a damn good start towards such a thing. But we also have the whole FAQ category of stuff, like the regular EMP, & etc. that don't necessarily focus on projects. |
i have been in and out of the survival mindset since 91ish. ive totaly quit at some points and just slowed down in others. right now i am in th "ON" mode, 4 years ago i was in a so-so mood. my moods seem to run in cycles with what president we have.  in the past 6 months i have built 2 lowers and bought 2 uppers, before that, i had not purchased a gun since 1997. why is that i suppose??? well ive been lurking here for 3 years and i never knew how easy it was to get into AR's and shoot them. i joined a club too, with help from the PA forum. now all the sudden im shooting in the DCM matches and NRA highpower. i never competed in anything before this.
this forum has been a blessing for me and my wife. we now shoot together, shop together and make more long term survival related decisions together. Take a break Homey, you will be back. |
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Slice, The water gets muddy at times, in every beautiful creek. Please don't go, I enjoy you as a part of this forum. p.s. - I don't sleep with a gun either.  This. Don't let the idiots get you down and just learn to read thru the BS. It's not worth your effort. Use the ignore button |
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I don't often have a lot to say around here.
I spend most if my time reading and learning from those members have a good idea of what they are discussing. There was a short list of those people, and I recognized most of those screen names as authors of threads that I read. It is a shame that there is so much nonsense on here sometimes. We just do the best to ignore the spam. Sometimes we all have to take a break and think things over. There are some of us that try to be open minded and considerate. |
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Take a break, it really helps.
At times I have had enough of the children of arfcom and go away for a while. Even months. Spend your time doing some improvements to your survival plans, watch some Jericho , shoot a few things that go bang or splatter, have some fun.
When the urge comes back, come back and have a looks see.
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I found this using search [Skibane's post in :http://www.ar15.com/forums/topic.html?b=10&f=17&t=642188&page=2] =============== "The Report" is an excellent place to start: Report of the Commission to Assess the Threat to the United States from Electromagnetic Pulse (EMP) Attack Also, the American Radio Relay League (ARRL) re-printed a series of articles (originally published for the National Institute of Standards) that describes the effects of HEMP on various communication equipment - the kind of gear that is considerably more sensitive to voltage spikes than most consumer electronics: Intro to EMP EMP Protection Devices EMP Implications for Communications EMP Protection for Communications The results of these tests demonstrate that even devices which are very vulnerable to voltage spikes are largely unaffected by EMP, so long as they aren't connected to any long conductors when the EMP occurs. Some other good reads to bookmark: Federation of American Scientists: Nuclear Weapon EMP Effects Glasstone's Blog ================ Search success seems to be a combination of a few good phrases, paying close attention to the options and then reading through a lot of threads. I think the search is good enough to have some success building a "common topics" thread. Maybe a guide of "link to threads, copy and paste quotes and summaries, copy and paste links to real resources" could start the topic and we could build a thread. There were about 80% threads with just arguments in them on the EMP topic. I think HomeSlice has some important points on how things go here that we could make a little better. For the first week or so, we would have several topics to choose from to go in the thread, so it would grow fast at first.
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Much depends on your level of preparedness and your perceived level of threat. Many of the problems here, and one of the reasons I don't post, revolve around expectations and varying levels of preparedness. People want different things, and they're all mixed into the same forum. Some people are just more serious than others.
IMHO, one of the first, and most important, steps in survival is personal fitness. If you're fat and diabetic due to lifestyle choices, I just don't understand how that isn't the your first obstacle to overcome unless you're medically unable. |
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Well I'm 45, overwieght and diabetic too. Dont quit! You owe it to your kid to try to prep within your ability to help HIM and his mom in bad times. I surf other survival forums and not one has the level headed, good neighbor sensibility that this one does. Just cause you dont do or agree with a "standard belief" does not make you bad or wrong, just different at that moment. Suck it up bro. What is that old saying "Good fences make good neighbors", that goes true on the net also. we dont know each other but due to our like minded direction we are neighbors. I don agree with all and some are just plane arrogant about it. But, wisdom came to Ballem in the Bible thru the mouth of a jackass, it does here and other places in my life. I hope your family well and keep up the good fight.
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Absolutely filter the answers and information that work for you and your family. That is the real beauty of this place, as there are far more knowledgeable people out there on a myriad of topics. You don't have to incorporate what this person says, or that person says. The biggest benefit to me is many of these topics get me thinking.
Stay here. Ask lots of questions. Post replies when you have something to offer. Let the chaos roll off your back.
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Quoted: Much depends on your level of preparedness and your perceived level of threat. Many of the problems here, and one of the reasons I don't post, revolve around expectations and varying levels of preparedness. People want different things, and they're all mixed into the same forum. Some people are just more serious than others. IMHO, one of the first, and most important, steps in survival is personal fitness. If you're fat and diabetic due to lifestyle choices, I just don't understand how that isn't the your first obstacle to overcome unless you're medically unable. Martlet, diabetes attacked Home_Slice when he was still in high school and skinny. |
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Is it me, or has this place gone to hell? I have a paid membership because of the SF. I now find myself debating the logic of that decision... -Slice And yes, I'll be back. But damn... Hang in there, neighbor! Don't leave me by myself with these guys...
I say step back away from the preps for awhile and enjoy your family and have some fun with some of your other toys. Come back when you can and use your own judgement (which I have found to be very sound in the other forum) regarding SF preps.
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Much depends on your level of preparedness and your perceived level of threat. Many of the problems here, and one of the reasons I don't post, revolve around expectations and varying levels of preparedness. People want different things, and they're all mixed into the same forum. Some people are just more serious than others. IMHO, one of the first, and most important, steps in survival is personal fitness. If you're fat and diabetic due to lifestyle choices, I just don't understand how that isn't the your first obstacle to overcome unless you're medically unable. Martlet, diabetes attacked Home_Slice when he was still in high school and skinny. Hence my "medically unable" qualifier. Diabetes doesn't have to be associated with weight. Weight certainly doesn't help it, though. |
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Quoted: Were you part of the SF before the forum got made into 5? Everything was in one forum then. A few more forums would be nice, SF has 5 while hunting has 9. Plus it might help if questions about gear, garden/food, books where placed in their forums. Everything gets post here, likes it GD. |
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Quoted: Cool Martlet, I just wanted to help set the record straight according to what I have seen Slice post. Quoted: Quoted: Much depends on your level of preparedness and your perceived level of threat. Many of the problems here, and one of the reasons I don't post, revolve around expectations and varying levels of preparedness. People want different things, and they're all mixed into the same forum. Some people are just more serious than others. IMHO, one of the first, and most important, steps in survival is personal fitness. If you're fat and diabetic due to lifestyle choices, I just don't understand how that isn't the your first obstacle to overcome unless you're medically unable. Martlet, diabetes attacked Home_Slice when he was still in high school and skinny. Hence my "medically unable" qualifier. Diabetes doesn't have to be associated with weight. Weight certainly doesn't help it, though. Sometimes we need another poster to take up for us when an immature poster attacks. Others have taken up for me in the past. Martlet I really did not consider your post an attack, but lots of folks do not think well, so I wanted to set things straight. |
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Cool Martlet, I just wanted to help set the record straight according to what I have seen Slice post.
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Much depends on your level of preparedness and your perceived level of threat. Many of the problems here, and one of the reasons I don't post, revolve around expectations and varying levels of preparedness. People want different things, and they're all mixed into the same forum. Some people are just more serious than others. IMHO, one of the first, and most important, steps in survival is personal fitness. If you're fat and diabetic due to lifestyle choices, I just don't understand how that isn't the your first obstacle to overcome unless you're medically unable. Martlet, diabetes attacked Home_Slice when he was still in high school and skinny. Hence my "medically unable" qualifier. Diabetes doesn't have to be associated with weight. Weight certainly doesn't help it, though. Sometimes we need another poster to take up for us when an immature poster attacks. Others have taken up for me in the past. Martlet I really did not consider your post an attack, but lots of folks do not think well, so I wanted to set things straight. No harm no foul. I guess what I was really trying to say is there are serious, hard-core, "bunker in the basement I'm ready for anything" survivalists here and there are guys who just want to get through a few weeks without power and a little civil unrest. Each group has different goals that overlap in some areas. What may be enough for one group may be laughable to another. That doesn't make either group "wrong", they just have different expectations and goals. IMHO, any amount of preparedness is better than none. However, everyone should be in a physical condition of readiness, as much as their body will allow. |
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I'm fairly new here, so take this with a grain of salt. Almost everything that I learn/can learn here could be found elsewhere on the net. I come here for the comradery (sp?), and the knowledge that I can get on a personal level with others. I also like to have a little fun while I do it, and there is a sense of humor here too. |
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I ignore most threads in SF now (only stopping in when the title catches my eye)..... I used to read them all, even before I was a member and just lurked (for a LONG time). I'm with Mach; world events are moving fast. People are on edge; just look at the union nonsense in WI. |
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hang in there i don't post much anymore because of some of the same reasons
there still is a lot of great people here who's egos have not run amuck and i enjoy their insight.they are the folks that have help me find my level of preps i am comfortable with and what threats i feel are important just my .02 and thanks to you all |
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Quoted: Quoted: I love this forum, or at least I used to / want to... -Slice Take a break for a while. No harm in that. The forum will always be here. It's natural for there to be ups and downs in how we each feel about this place. It's also natural for veteran posters to have waxing and waning tolerance for answering questions that we've all seen a thousand times. Fortunately, our strength lies in the fact that there are enough experienced folks around that someone will always be up for answering a new person's question. If it's any consolation, Slice,you're on my personal list of posters who are dependable sources of good thoughts and info. Anyhow, take a break for a while if you wish: go to the range, till the garden, pack some buckets. Do some of the things that really matter. Come back refreshed. This is good advice. Take a break from here. I hardly even looked in SF last week, just needed a break. The one statement I don't agree with is that veteran posters having little tolerance for answering newbie questions. If it bothers them so much, they should just skip past that thread and not post. Making a snide comment about this has been answered a thousand times helps no one, if you don't want to help, don't answer. |
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I love this forum, or at least I used to / want to... -Slice Take a break for a while. No harm in that. The forum will always be here.
It's natural for there to be ups and downs in how we each feel about this place. It's also natural for veteran posters to have waxing and waning tolerance for answering questions that we've all seen a thousand times. Fortunately, our strength lies in the fact that there are enough experienced folks around that someone will always be up for answering a new person's question. If it's any consolation, Slice,you're on my personal list of posters who are dependable sources of good thoughts and info. Anyhow, take a break for a while if you wish: go to the range, till the garden, pack some buckets. Do some of the things that really matter. Come back refreshed.
This is good advice. Take a break from here. I hardly even looked in SF last week, just needed a break. The one statement I don't agree with is that veteran posters having little tolerance for answering newbie questions. If it bothers them so much, they should just skip past that thread and not post. Making a snide comment about this has been answered a thousand times helps no one, if you don't want to help, don't answer. I concur 100%. There's no excuse for the 'old hands' to make snide or flippant comments just because they've seen the same thread topic many times before. Much, much better to just let the thread pass by without comment if you have nothing really to add and are just posting for the sake of posting. I've made a few 'ill chosen' posts in my time here and I regret every one of them.
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People are worried for good reason.
Unfortunately, they worry about things like EMP that are a very low probability while not taking care oif the the things that are pretty high probability. Get your personal life and finances in order first. That does not mean you cannot start dealing other things while you deal with these, but I guarantee you that divorce, job loss, or death of a spouse is much more likely than an EMP event. Hurricanes, blizzards, tornados, and floods are more likely than a terrorist attack. |
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People are worried for good reason. Unfortunately, they worry about things like EMP that are a very low probability while not taking care oif the the things that are pretty high probability. Get your personal life and finances in order first. That does not mean you cannot start dealing other things while you deal with these, but I guarantee you that divorce, job loss, or death of a spouse is much more likely than an EMP event. Hurricanes, blizzards, tornados, and floods are more likely than a terrorist attack. Posted Via AR15.Com Mobile |
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I love this forum, or at least I used to / want to... -Slice Take a break for a while. No harm in that. The forum will always be here.
It's natural for there to be ups and downs in how we each feel about this place. It's also natural for veteran posters to have waxing and waning tolerance for answering questions that we've all seen a thousand times. Fortunately, our strength lies in the fact that there are enough experienced folks around that someone will always be up for answering a new person's question. If it's any consolation, Slice,you're on my personal list of posters who are dependable sources of good thoughts and info. Anyhow, take a break for a while if you wish: go to the range, till the garden, pack some buckets. Do some of the things that really matter. Come back refreshed.
This is good advice. Take a break from here. I hardly even looked in SF last week, just needed a break. The one statement I don't agree with is that veteran posters having little tolerance for answering newbie questions. If it bothers them so much, they should just skip past that thread and not post. Making a snide comment about this has been answered a thousand times helps no one, if you don't want to help, don't answer. I concur 100%. There's no excuse for the 'old hands' to make snide or flippant comments just because they've seen the same thread topic many times before. Much, much better to just let the thread pass by without comment if you have nothing really to add and are just posting for the sake of posting. I've made a few 'ill chosen' posts in my time here and I regret every one of them. Well said. Like my mom always told me "If you don't have nothing nice to say, SHUT YOUR MOUTH!". I have visited this site regularly for the last 6 or so years (I think). I only joined in 07. Topics are going to be rehashed all the time. If it bothers you, don't click on the topic. For instance how many times have we seen a thread about Emergency Essentials or guns needed for SHTF? When the same question is posted next week, just ignore it. Or post a link to a prior thread, it takes a minute and no harm is done. Or heaven for bid someone might have a new idea on the subject. If it bothers you just move on to the next topic. And as mom also taught me "It costs you nothing to be polite". That being said I love this site. I thing the SF is probably the best available. Thanks for all of the input and post you guys share. |
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People are worried for good reason. Unfortunately, they worry about things like EMP that are a very low probability while not taking care oif the the things that are pretty high probability. Get your personal life and finances in order first. That does not mean you cannot start dealing other things while you deal with these, but I guarantee you that divorce, job loss, or death of a spouse is much more likely than an EMP event. Hurricanes, blizzards, tornados, and floods are more likely than a terrorist attack. Why complain about people preparing for an emp at all. Especially when 99% of their preps will be identical to preps for more likely events. I don't get this mentality that preps for one shtf are much different than preps for another. Having your debt paid off and being in a good financial situation is the first important step for every prepper for any scenario. If emp scares someone into prepping and protecting their family, shut up and help teach them to prep. Telling them the one thing that got them thinking is never going to happen may tell them they really don't need to prep at all. Posted Via AR15.Com Mobile |
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Were you part of the SF before the forum got made into 5? Everything was in one forum then.
A few more forums would be nice, SF has 5 while hunting has 9. Plus it might help if questions about gear, garden/food, books where placed in their forums. Everything gets post here, likes it GD. I use to be Clan Wolf before my account got screwed up.
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slice, i've always valued your posts, appriciated your contribution for rr, and would have also enjoyed a civilized discusion on theoretical effects of EMP... but i'll call ya names if you like...
fisterkev and i have disagreed a number of times and even taken those differeing viewpoints to IM and had quite a civilised exchange considering vastly differing opinions at that time until we found a bit of common ground and decided in reality that we probably weren't that far off base from eachother. on this matter i completely agree with him... Quoted:
Don't you guys see what's happening, though? More and more people are trying to get into the survival mindset, and they are literally flooding over from GD into here. This is why we see the same questions posted week after week, why we see a new EMP thread or "I'm new, skool me on food storage" thread popping up every day. The readership of this site - the entire site, not just the SF - is naturally inclined towards our mindset, and they are seeing how things are going and are getting scared, and they are coming here for some info and answers. Sorry, but with the current state of affairs, this is pretty much unavoidable. Don't get discouraged. Giving up is quite frankly about as inconsistent to the survival mindset as you can get. As for the GD-esque quality that this forum seems to be taking on... give them time to learn. Balance will be found here eventually. i haven't been nearly as active lately myself and probably at least a little part of it is a feeling of stagnation and dupe topics etc. take a little break man and we'll be here when you get back... K. |
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I think people in general have lost the ability to have a conversation and debate something in a civil way. Its also hard to judge responses sometimes you lose the ability to detect sarcasm and good old joking around and you reply in a negative way. Sometimes I need a break from the Internet or a mandatory 24 hour wait time on posting if something angers me, helps avoid a lot of foot in mouth responses .
Take a break and come back we need normal folks here. |