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2/14/2011 8:21:05 PM EDT
What would you miss? What cant you live without based upon modern manufacturing processes. We all Prep for the worst, but there has to be one thing that you would look back and say "damn wouldn't it be nice if we still had...". and what could we do to keep said items around?
2/14/2011 8:24:27 PM EDT
[#1]
Quoted:
What would you miss? What cant you live without based upon modern manufacturing processes. We all Prep for the worst, but there has to be one thing that you would look back and say "damn wouldn't it be nice if we still had...". and what could we do to keep said items around?


Probably my freedom.

If I'm free I can take care of most all the other issues.
2/14/2011 8:29:51 PM EDT
[#2]
I would miss law and order the most.  I do not want to stand guard for the rest of my life.


Steve
2/14/2011 8:32:45 PM EDT
[#3]



Quoted:


What would you miss? What cant you live without based upon modern manufacturing processes. We all Prep for the worst, but there has to be one thing that you would look back and say "damn wouldn't it be nice if we still had...". and what could we do to keep said items around?


i look forward to hearing parents tell their kids "tales from the internet"

 
2/14/2011 8:35:32 PM EDT
[#4]
My life sustaining medicine.
2/14/2011 8:39:02 PM EDT
[#5]
arfcom. We'd be relegated to passing around a notepad and some pencils. Could you imagine if you had to draw your avatar for every post? Every once in a while the notepad would get grabbed by an admin and whole pages would either be whited out or shredded.

Seriously though, assuming all my survival needs were met, I would miss having internet access. I've met a lot of good friends on here and it would be a real bummer to know that I'd never talk to them again.
2/14/2011 8:41:05 PM EDT
[#6]
Quoted:
I would miss law and order the most.  I do not want to stand guard for the rest of my life.


Steve


QFT
2/14/2011 8:42:02 PM EDT
[#7]
Quoted:
arfcom. We'd be relegated to passing around a notepad and some pencils. Could you imagine if you had to draw your avatar for every post? Every once in a while the notepad would get grabbed by an admin and whole pages would either be whited out or shredded.

Seriously though, assuming all my survival needs were met, I would miss having internet access. I've met a lot of good friends on here and it would be a real bummer to know that I'd never talk to them again.


+1  internet access is like having a key to an unlimited knowledge of other individuals thoughts and experiences. that is if you know what to take with a grain of salt.
2/14/2011 9:01:34 PM EDT
[#8]



Quoted:


arfcom. We'd be relegated to passing around a notepad and some pencils. Could you imagine if you had to draw your avatar for every post? Every once in a while the notepad would get grabbed by an admin and whole pages would either be whited out or shredded.












Seriously though, assuming all my survival needs were met, I would
miss having internet access. I've met a lot of good friends on here and
it would be a real bummer to know that I'd never talk to them again.


yup





 
2/14/2011 10:26:15 PM EDT
[#9]
Refrigeration, a wide variety of foods avalable year round, internet...
2/14/2011 10:52:09 PM EDT
[#10]
.

central heating and air conditioning

I initially said "climate control" but I didn't want you thinking I meant  the Halliburton Weather Machine.



2/15/2011 12:13:02 AM EDT
[#11]
Quoted:
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central heating and air conditioning

I initially said "climate control" but I didn't want you thinking I meant  the Halliburton Weather Machine.





Don't worry; that will be working 100% when the end comes
2/15/2011 12:27:52 AM EDT
[#12]
All the things I'd probably miss are the things we take for granted now. Did you know that 95% of the worlds socks are made in China? Ice-cold Coca-Cola. Fruits that grow in the tropics. A new pair of shoes.
2/15/2011 3:07:19 AM EDT
[#13]
I'd miss being able to chat with you guys....
2/15/2011 3:41:41 AM EDT
[#14]
OJ. Mmmmm.
2/15/2011 5:07:49 AM EDT
[#15]
Hot showers, flush toilets, and refrigeration.

Hospitals.
2/15/2011 5:14:01 AM EDT
[#16]
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Hot showers, flush toilets, and refrigeration.

Hospitals.


why can't you have hot showers?

ETA....that's the little bit of a morale booster that's easy to rig....
2/15/2011 5:33:09 AM EDT
[#17]
Internet hands down. Its such a wealth of info.
2/15/2011 5:46:05 AM EDT
[#18]
Honestly...

Chai tea lattes from Starbucks. Yeah, I know most of your opinions on this, but I can't help it I love the stuff.

Nice restaurants. My wife andI love going to dinner.

Traveling to foreign countries.

The Internet.
2/15/2011 5:47:15 AM EDT
[#19]
Quoted:
Quoted:
Hot showers, flush toilets, and refrigeration.

Hospitals.


why can't you have hot showers?

ETA....that's the little bit of a morale booster that's easy to rig....


He might be planning on living out of his pack in a national forest.


ETA: the internet. Definitely going to miss this place and all the information here.
2/15/2011 6:04:25 AM EDT
[#20]
Quoted:

Quoted:
What would you miss? What cant you live without based upon modern manufacturing processes. We all Prep for the worst, but there has to be one thing that you would look back and say "damn wouldn't it be nice if we still had...". and what could we do to keep said items around?

i look forward to hearing parents tell their kids "tales from the internet"  


"Back when I was your age we had to walk across the room and order things online...."
2/15/2011 6:06:22 AM EDT
[#21]
Quoted:
Quoted:
What would you miss? What cant you live without based upon modern manufacturing processes. We all Prep for the worst, but there has to be one thing that you would look back and say "damn wouldn't it be nice if we still had...". and what could we do to keep said items around?


Probably my freedom.

If I'm free I can take care of most all the other issues.


You are already missing that.
2/15/2011 6:09:58 AM EDT
[#22]


Insulin


2/15/2011 6:14:21 AM EDT
[#23]
Quoted:

Insulin


You win.
2/15/2011 6:23:21 AM EDT
[#24]
Having access to a group of minds that doesn't think you are bananas for asking a question like this.....being able to toss ideas like "haircuts".....or washing clothes.....what have you......with a group of people that may have actually given it some thought before they were forced to do it.

If you really think about it.....most your contact with people....post SHTF....will be with folks that had no clue something of any severity was on the horizon....  and there fore didn't do anything to prepare.

You'll have to look at individuals that are doing things so bass ackwards....just because they never thought they'd have to do it....what is worrisome...is that if you start to show someone the right way to do something....will they try to cling on and think that you'll "save" them.

We all have noticed more and more people beginning to prep.....but even with all the new arrivals....we are still less than a percent.

So I guess that I will miss a relatively healthy nation.....with full bellies and the illusion that everything is OK....because like it or not......in this time....you are safer than anything we can hope for post SHTF.....

How many folks will die from illness rather than the golden horde....in fact....that is probably how the golden horde will diminish.....by spreading disease amongst themselves.

So....just in case.....thanks guys and gals....I do appreciate all the discussions.....good and bad......and if it all falls apart tomorrow......it's been fun.....and tell you what....if the SHTF.....I'll mark a few areas we will be patrolling  with the BFL.....in the middle of the road.....if you see one....wave......
2/15/2011 6:26:26 AM EDT
[#25]
comfort items like electricity, central heat/air, cars, farm machinery, grocery/clothing stores/restaraunts etc.

I could see having to go back to subsistance farming with a mule/plow and raising livestock to put food on the table along with working odd jobs to make ends meet like my grandfather/grandmother did back in the 20s/30s/40s when getting sick/injured unable to work could mean the difference between eating good until the next harvest came in the following year or having to stand in the bread line hopeing to eat.

there's a reason families were big back then, farming/ranching takes a lot of people to raise enough to make it through until the harvest the following year, and kids are pretty much indentured servants in subsistance farming until they get old enough to run away to try and find an easier way of living.

2/15/2011 8:18:02 AM EDT
[#26]
The Internet and toilet paper.

Not necessarily in that order.
2/15/2011 8:18:09 AM EDT
[#27]
Going for a walk and not having to worry about security or see the streets dirty, houses looking like crap and people looking and behaving more like animals each passing year.

FerFAL
2/15/2011 8:23:36 AM EDT
[#28]
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Going for a walk and not having to worry about security or see the streets dirty, houses looking like crap and people looking and behaving more like animals each passing year.

FerFAL


2/15/2011 9:17:09 AM EDT
[#29]
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Going for a walk and not having to worry about security or see the streets dirty, houses looking like crap and people looking and behaving more like animals each passing year.

FerFAL


God help us! That is grim, and affected me more than any of the other posts, and I am a diabetic so I've got plenty to worry about.
2/15/2011 10:05:36 AM EDT
[#30]



Quoted:


Having access to a group of minds that doesn't think you are bananas for asking a question like this.....being able to toss ideas like "haircuts".....or washing clothes.....what have you......with a group of people that may have actually given it some thought before they were forced to do it.



If you really think about it.....most your contact with people....post SHTF....will be with folks that had no clue something of any severity was on the horizon....  and there fore didn't do anything to prepare.







I always think of the character played by Randy Quade in Independence Day, when he says "Ever since I was abducted by aliens", and the people who are actually fighting against the aliens, still look at him like he's a nut.



 
2/15/2011 10:22:09 AM EDT
[#31]
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My life sustaining medicine.


This is my biggest fear for SHTF.  I am not too sure how long I would last without my insulin and meds.  I am fairly certain that I could go without my meds but the loss of insulin supply would most likely catch up to me at some point.
Other than that I suppose I would miss plumbing quite a bit.  From my past experience backpacking for extended periods (one to three weeks) I have found that a toilet and shower are luxuries you easily take for granted.
2/15/2011 3:59:20 PM EDT
[#32]
loosing this website and actually having to tallk to the wife
2/15/2011 4:22:12 PM EDT
[#33]
Quoted:
My life sustaining medicine.


amen brother same here
2/15/2011 5:35:10 PM EDT
[#34]
I would miss the quiet country setting when you can walk down the street at night hand in hand with the misses and say hello to your neighbors who are on the front porch having a beer or an ice tea and relaxing from a long day at work...and they offer you one to.

I feel most of that small town feeling will be gone if the masses from the cities scatter like cockroaches into the country side...
2/15/2011 6:07:33 PM EDT
[#35]



Quoted:


loosing this website and actually having to tallk to the wife


You have chosen your posts wisely.



For me...I worry about diapers for the kids.



I will miss long hot showers, and sound sleep.



 
2/15/2011 6:11:04 PM EDT
[#36]
Water can be heated and the misses can have a muzzle put on her...or get better ear plugs...or forget to put new batteries in your hearing aid...LOL
2/15/2011 7:33:40 PM EDT
[#37]
A/C
Ass wipe
Daily hot showers
I could easily live without Internet and cell phones.  I actually miss the days before we had all this instant communication technology.
2/15/2011 8:22:18 PM EDT
[#38]
Had no central air or heat for the first 14 years of my life. Then again in college for two years, so that's no biggie, just an adjustment if that time comes. Actually, if SHTF, for me it would be not all-that removed from life in my childhood, in terms of loss of creature comforts. We weren't rich by any stretch & in the Valley (TX, not Cali) in the early 1970s, we had no A/C. Box fans in the hall windows plus open windows elsewhere = cool the house down.



I'd miss the security we take for granted every day. My house & neighbors, too, as we'd bug out if it was a protracted SHTF situation.
2/15/2011 11:50:29 PM EDT
[#39]
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I could easily live without Internet and cell phones.  I actually miss the days before we had all this instant communication technology.


Me too. On the days I forget my to take my phone to work with me, I actually find it liberating.
2/15/2011 11:53:59 PM EDT
[#40]
Quoted:
Honestly...

Chai tea lattes from Starbucks. Yeah, I know most of your opinions on this, but I can't help it I love the stuff.

Nice restaurants. My wife andI love going to dinner.

Traveling to foreign countries.

The Internet.


I can get Chai Tea in boxes from my local grocery store. Might be worth looking into.
2/16/2011 5:29:10 AM EDT
[#41]
Quoted:

Insulin


I've heard that there is insulin that no longer requires refrigeration.  Although I don't know what the shelf life is.

2/16/2011 7:13:39 AM EDT
[#42]




Quoted:



Quoted:



Quoted:

Hot showers, flush toilets, and refrigeration.



Hospitals.




why can't you have hot showers?



ETA....that's the little bit of a morale booster that's easy to rig....




He might be planning on living out of his pack in a national forest.





ETA: the internet. Definitely going to miss this place and all the information here.
At least until I build my log cabin with my axe and saw.



2/16/2011 8:16:24 AM EDT
[#43]
Internet and...



Pecorino Romano cheese





I fear the day I can no longer get good cheese. I am being 100% serious.
Speed
2/16/2011 8:38:06 AM EDT
[#44]
Toilet paper
2/16/2011 8:51:55 AM EDT
[#45]
my neighbors

none prep, hoarde, or plan on anything other than next week. when they start looting, they will start dieing
2/16/2011 9:11:40 AM EDT
[#46]
how about ice cold beer, i think i would miss a nice cold pilsner urquell more than anything else. -tm
2/16/2011 9:15:11 AM EDT
[#47]
Something to think about: Nearly everything you touch on a daily basis was in some way brought to you by a machinist. There won't be any more going to the store and buying spare parts for whatever...you'll be completely on your own and will have to either make it or modify something else to work. The lack of precision with hand tools means you're going to spend many hours trying to get it just right.



More or less, you're going to miss the skills of others.
2/16/2011 9:24:08 AM EDT
[#48]
Quoted:
Something to think about: Nearly everything you touch on a daily basis was in some way brought to you by a machinist. There won't be any more going to the store and buying spare parts for whatever...you'll be completely on your own and will have to either make it or modify something else to work. The lack of precision with hand tools means you're going to spend many hours trying to get it just right.

More or less, you're going to miss the skills of others.


I buy from small machine shops every week and though with electricity, they could start back in production pretty quickly, but forgot how dependent they are on raw stock and replacement machine tools. Businesses are very used to having anything they want only a week away at most.

I would really miss the internet since so much for information. I have very few actual books on how to survive. (Look for more Foxfire books at the used book store!)

But I would miss dependable and varied food sources the most.

And Snowballs!

2/16/2011 9:58:30 AM EDT
[#49]
Quoted:
Something to think about: Nearly everything you touch on a daily basis was in some way brought to you by a machinist. There won't be any more going to the store and buying spare parts for whatever...you'll be completely on your own and will have to either make it or modify something else to work. The lack of precision with hand tools means you're going to spend many hours trying to get it just right.

More or less, you're going to miss the skills of others.


that is why people like us need to stay alive and work out ways to power our machines.
2/16/2011 10:03:11 AM EDT
[#50]
I probably don't have to worry to about it.

After 2-3 weeks at home with the Mrs., she would inevitably tire of my antics and put 2 in my head with that mini Glock I got her for her B'day.

God help Raul, her little two legged, fancy, yoga-instructor when he has to deal with her full time.

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