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11/3/2010 2:26:04 PM EDT
Are the metal cans that have a large screw-on cap instead of the leaver operated cap any good? I came across 3 of these locally. Are they considered quality Jerry cans? Or are they even Jerrys? Here is link to a picture. Pic
11/3/2010 2:31:00 PM EDT
[#1]
Those are the US version of the NATO can.  They are OK, but not as good as the NATO cans due to the way the seams are done.  If you have found some for a good price, go for it, they will serve you well.  I have a few of them along with my NATO cans.  I picked mine up at yard sales for cheap, so could not pass them up.  But if given a choice between the US cans or the NATO cans, I'd go for the NATO cans every time.

stasiman
11/3/2010 2:34:40 PM EDT
[#2]
Quoted:
Those are the US version of the NATO can.  They are OK, but not as good as the NATO cans due to the way the seams are done.  If you have found some for a good price, go for it, they will serve you well.  I have a few of them along with my NATO cans.  I picked mine up at yard sales for cheap, so could not pass them up.  But if given a choice between the US cans or the NATO cans, I'd go for the NATO cans every time.

stasiman


What would be a good price for 3 of them with minor surface rust, 2 of them have the standard cap and 1 has the cap with the flexible pour spout.
11/3/2010 2:46:05 PM EDT
[#3]
MJay, yes those are jerry cans.  More accurately those are USGI jerry cans.  They are probably fine.  

The short story is:  The Germans developed the jerry can before WWII.  Brittan, Russia, and US copied the jerry can.  Brittan copied the can exactly.  Russia copied the can in a weird way that only the Soviets would do.  The us copied the can In an American fashion.  The German and British cans are all welded and have the lever lid.  The US can is made with soup can construction methods and has the same screw top as the 55 gallon drum.  I really can't describe the Soviet can––you just have to see one to believe it.

Fast forward 65 years
There are 3 cans on the market.
1) NATO cans.  Nato cans are the same as the original German jerry can.
2) USGI cans.  USGI cans are the WWII American copy of the German can.  Also called Blitz can.
3) MFC by Scepter.  MFCs are the plastic jerry can that the US military replaced the USGI can with

Here in the SF the Nato and MFC cans are preferred over the USGI cans because the rolled seams of the USGI can have a slightly higher risk of leaking.


If the price is right, then go on and get the cans.
11/3/2010 2:50:16 PM EDT
[#4]
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What would be a good price for 3 of them with minor surface rust, 2 of them have the standard cap and 1 has the cap with the flexible pour spout.


My auto parts store has new Blitz cans like in your link for $58.99 each.  DO has new Nato cans for $200 for 4 with free shipping.  You have to go to Canada to buy MFCs, and don't tell anyone how you got them here.

ETA  For the cans you described no more than $20 each, but I'd try to get the lot for $20 or $30.  If You get the lot for less than $20 then you owe me an Ice Cream
11/3/2010 2:56:00 PM EDT
[#5]
Quoted:
Quoted:


What would be a good price for 3 of them with minor surface rust, 2 of them have the standard cap and 1 has the cap with the flexible pour spout.


My auto parts store has new Blitz cans like in your link for $58.99 each.  DO has new Nato cans for $200 for 4 with free shipping.  You have to go to Canada to buy MFCs, and don't tell anyone how you got them here.

ETA  For the cans you described no more than $20 each, but I'd try to get the lot for $20 or $30.  If You get the lot for less than $20 then you owe me an Ice Cream


They are at a consignment type shop for $20 each. I was going to offer no more than $50.
11/3/2010 3:04:40 PM EDT
[#6]
I'd go no higher than $40 for the lot.  The one with the spout is most likely missing the screw on cap.  They can be picked up on e-bay, but that is added time and expense on your part.  But follow PA's advice, start low and see how cheap you can get them.  Keep a top dollar amount in mind and know that you are not ripping anybody off as you will be needing to clean them up and find that third cap.  Any consignment shop worth it's salt is used to bargaining with their customers, so it is fair game unless the seller has a "fixed" price order in with the consignment shop.

stasiman

BTW: At yard sales I have paid as little as $5 and as much as $25 depending on condition and savvy of the seller. YMMV.
11/3/2010 3:28:51 PM EDT
[#7]
Thanks for the info guys
11/3/2010 3:41:58 PM EDT
[#8]
At $20 each I'd walk, but that is me.  I'm not in a place to really have any.  For me to have some and put up with the drama of storing them, then I gotta have a great deal.









fella ought to have a goal

11/3/2010 4:19:54 PM EDT
[#9]
Wonders if i can find any of these in Mexico? Going this weekend for a little R&R!
11/3/2010 4:25:22 PM EDT
[#10]
Always worth a try
11/3/2010 4:51:57 PM EDT
[#11]
I don't like them because of the rolled seams- which are very prone to leakage.
11/3/2010 4:59:23 PM EDT
[#12]
Quoted:
Quoted:
Those are the US version of the NATO can.  They are OK, but not as good as the NATO cans due to the way the seams are done.  If you have found some for a good price, go for it, they will serve you well.  I have a few of them along with my NATO cans.  I picked mine up at yard sales for cheap, so could not pass them up.  But if given a choice between the US cans or the NATO cans, I'd go for the NATO cans every time.

stasiman


What would be a good price for 3 of them with minor surface rust, 2 of them have the standard cap and 1 has the cap with the flexible pour spout.


If they are red like in the picture, they are are not technically USGI cans.
They are a civilian version of the USGI can and I have read a few reviews that state the steel is not as thick as the USGI or NATO cans.

Northern Tool sells them new for $39.00 - Yes, they come with the CARB spout, but also with the metal screw-on cap as well.

Be sure to check the inside for rust as well.

11/3/2010 8:03:07 PM EDT
[#13]
"3) MFC by Scepter. MFCs are the plastic jerry can that the US military replaced the USGI can with"

Why do you have to buy these in Canada? If the .Mil is using these shouldn't they be sold here?
11/3/2010 8:10:45 PM EDT
[#14]
Quoted:
"3) MFC by Scepter. MFCs are the plastic jerry can that the US military replaced the USGI can with"

Why do you have to buy these in Canada? If the .Mil is using these shouldn't they be sold here?


The CA Air Research Board banned the old gas caps, and the consumer products safety commission banned gas cans without child proof caps.  

Sceprter has not made a civi legal MFC

Good gas cans got banned
11/4/2010 3:49:38 AM EDT
[#15]
Quoted:
MJay, yes those are jerry cans.  More accurately those are USGI jerry cans.  They are probably fine.  

The short story is:  The Germans developed the jerry can before WWII.  Brittan, Russia, and US copied the jerry can.  Brittan copied the can exactly.  Russia copied the can in a weird way that only the Soviets would do.  The us copied the can In an American fashion.  The German and British cans are all welded and have the lever lid.  The US can is made with soup can construction methods and has the same screw top as the 55 gallon drum.  I really can't describe the Soviet can––you just have to see one to believe it.

Fast forward 65 years
There are 3 cans on the market.
1) NATO cans.  Nato cans are the same as the original German jerry can.
2) USGI cans.  USGI cans are the WWII American copy of the German can.  Also called Blitz can.
3) MFC by Scepter.  MFCs are the plastic jerry can that the US military replaced the USGI can with

Here in the SF the Nato and MFC cans are preferred over the USGI cans because the rolled seams of the USGI can have a slightly higher risk of leaking.


If the price is right, then go on and get the cans.


Actually, there's a few more than that, but close enough:  Jerry Can Paper  Prices and availability are obviously OBE.
11/4/2010 4:21:18 AM EDT
[#16]
I was keeping the story short for the newb....I did not go into the variations.

MJay, if you want to get a good education about fuel cans then use the search and the archives and look up; fuel cans, jerry cans, or my screen name.  I've replied in most of the threads about fuel cans because I'm a bit of a junkie for them.
11/4/2010 12:30:43 PM EDT
[#17]
"Army Utility Cans" (cough, cough) at Pinzguaer.com.

I got 4 but they were out of stock on the spouts when I ordered.  I just checked and they now have some spouts so I ordered one.

The cans I received are used but in good shape.