Dame PA22-400 you have caught so much $hit for that quote! I know I'm guilty maybe you need to add some or or a or even  a  

My grandpa gave me his old Winchester Model 1894 30-30.  Did a lot of shootin' with that gun as a young boy/teenager.  Unfortunately, it got stolen when my house was burglarized back in the 80's.  Now I have a newer Marlin 30-30.  They are fun to shoot, accurate, and I think they look cool too.

Thanks for reminding us!

Of my Northern Brothers, none of the hunters are without a lever, it's the bad weather go to when visibility is poor and the $1,200 bolt-gun is over scoped.

I'm going to hunt around and trade into a 336 in 30-30 and then look to find another 444.or 45-70 with a long octagon barrel.

Yeah I agree in a way my only hang ups with it is around here you can check out the pawn shops and normally pick up a 336 for under 200 bucks . For someone on a budget or looking for simple hand outs its hard to beat the bang for the buck . All things new maybe not so much. Another thing lever actions are dead simple to operate , Im willing to say easier then a bolt action . Theres another thing but Im not sure if its just limited to my experience or is normal  , most commercial grade bolt actions lock up or get tight after 15 shots fired rapidly , Ive never saw a lever  action do so.
Oh Dave M very cool set up .





 

from one far corner of the south to the other... i don't either...


i don't buy into it either, around here i don't think it would be too likely that MOST people would call for either... i did have a family of neighbors move in accross the hallway in my apt. complex last year whom called the police and our property managagement office on me. AR was unloaded and carried from my apt. to my car with muzzle pointed in a safe position and my finger off the trigger. i walked diretly from my apt. to my car and smiled and said hello when i passed them, i got in the car and directly but leisurely drove away. they would have called the polie over any gun i had been seen in public with(i guess they never notied i regurally swith between OC and CC daily)... i got a call from the property management folks... they were like OMG!.. those new folks that just moved in from NoVa are so uptight! they had moved here to build a house and were just staying in the apt. briefly while the house was being built. one of the property management ladies and her husband shoot skeet competively and the other is the wife of a prominent local LEO. the property management lady i spoke to told me that they got the call after the neighbors had already called the police. the police had apparently been like after the anti-gun nieghbors had not recieved satisfaction and been asked to not call and inform on people safely and LEGALLY exerising thier rights i guess they decided they'd try to get me evicted. that didn't work out to well for them either when they were informed what great tennants my GF and i are. they moved out about a month later. funny thing is this all happened here in the city. if they have an issue with firearms they may have real issues ahead of them, as the house they were building was supposidly out in the county somewhere and likely they'll have gun owning neighbors on all sides of their property...

1919, AR, AK, lever gun, or kentucky long rifle around here very few pay much attention unless it's "oh hey, what ya got there, that's really cool!". sunday i saw a field artillery piece being pulled down the road on a flat bed trailer. i'm not a religious man at all but god bless the gun culture around here...

K.

Yup..... and the Marlin 1894CSS likes goth and punk rocker chicks.



 

i thought everyone liked punk chicks?..

K.

I held a .45-70 Marlin yesterday.  It felt to me like God created it for me.  I almost took it home.

I have two 18th century assault rifles, and love both of them...





- AG

Aggie, Them r 19th century riffles.  Back in thuh 18th century ya had to pour the powder down the muzzle then put the boolit down the muzzle then tamp all that down with the ram-rod.  Did you not lurn history at that skool?  Are you going to try to tell us that pie r square?

^^^^^



K.

you got me...  1800's, 19th century... oh well.  Plus the top one is an 1892 model, so it is barely 19th century at that...

At least cornbread r square

mmmmmm cornbread

I've got a model 94 trapper in 44 mag. matched to my 44 vaquero.  They both go with me when I am out on the horses.  I like the lever action and find it more convenient to carry in a scabbard than other rifles.  I am very confident with that rifle and know it will take anything I run into.

However, here is the downside to the Winchester, I found out the hard way.  The carriers in these rifles are the weak point (the carrier is the piece that lifts the new round into place).  My older boys and I were going camping last year and I took the Winchester along.  Once we got in camp I partially worked the action to make sure it was empty.  Even though I loaded it only hours before I double checked (I have a little OCD).  

While I was closing the action it hung up right at the end .  I applied a little more pressure and heard a snap.  As I opened the action again a small piece of metal fell into my hand.  It was the front 3/4" of the carrier.

Obviously I opened the action further than I should have doing the check.  However, this is only the third time I have had a gun break on me (one was a cheap $70 .22 and the other was a military issue Beretta).  So I am thinking about getting a marlin instead of the Winchester.  Infact I finally ordered the new carrier today $55 w/ shipping.  Since Winchester is no longer making the rifles I worry about getting replacements in the future.  If had not just bought 500 rounds of .308 I would have bought two carriers.

Ok, so when levering, are there pros and cons to pistol caliber versus rifle caliber? I've got a .44 revolver, so I'm thinking that another gun without another caliber, but am I losing out by using that as opposed to a .30-30?

Marlins are the best choice in NEW lever actions. Winchester hasn't made a comparable lever gun to Marlin in many years. Winchester used to make some damn fine ones. The only other choice is Henry and I would not consider paying money for one of those. Check Wal-Mart for their lever gun sales. Some say the Wal-Mart Marlins are cheaper quality than ones you can buy at a gun shop. I have compared two Marlin 336's one from Wal-Mart and the other from a local shop and they are identical(cosmetically and internally) except for the $100 higher price tag on the gun shop one.

I have both of mine in 44 so I only have to carry one ammunition.  Also I can fit more rounds in my gun.  The down side is I feel the 30-30 has better range and power (especially with some of the new Hornady LEVERevolution rounds).  For me it all boils down to what you feel your intended use of the guns will be.

My lever action is primarily for defense or hunting varmints.  If I am big game hunting I will take one of my other rifles.  It would get the job done but just not the best tool for the job.

My experience has been the 30-30 is more capable at a greater range (150 yds ish) and has greater penetration. For example shooting a 30-30 Marlin at some logs maybe 8" diameter or slightly larger, the round had not problem blowing the back out of the log every time. A .44 Marlin that my buddy owns would not penetrate both sides of the log. I have no hunting experience with the .44 but I can tell you a shot from off the shelf Winchester 30-30 grey box rounds is devastating to game like deer.

EDIT: The logs were oak for anyone that cares.

20" Marlin Mountie.

It is like an extension of my arm on fast moving targets:

Catching Rainbows and Brookies, while shooting ground squirrels. Hard to get much better!

16" Marlin "Limited" 1894 in 44 Magnum, with a Weaver 2.5x
16" Marlin 336 in 30-30, with a Weaver 1-3x

I may get hammered for this, but it's mostly cons unless you're talking cowboy shooting.

Yes, it's handy to have the same caliber in both weapons, but think a little deeper and you'll realize you're going to have to compromise.  Typically, the loads that work good in the carbine don't work as good in the pistol and vice versa.  So you either compromise on a load that sorta works in both, or you figure out some way to differentiate between the pistol loads and carbine loads, which not only defeats the same cartridge objective, but makes it harder to tell things apart on the fly.  Better to go with an actual rifle caliber and not have to worry about stuffing the wrong cartridge in the wrong piece.

Practice, cowboy comp, or just general coolness, shared caliber is fine and dandy.  My next lever will be a .45LC to match my Vaqueros, but will probably exist on a diet of low powered cowboy loads that won't take full advantage of the platform.  On the other hand, I'd not be the least concerned if it came time to stoke it hot and take to the brush for anything out to a hundred yards or so.  Beyond that, it'll have to be a .30-30 or better before I'll risk wounding and having to track.

From the purely practical standpoint,compared to my leverguns, my chopped Tikka T3 .308 with a 2.5-10 NightForce weighs less, has more range and reloads faster since I have a bunch of 5 rounders for it. It is my "all weather, all around, do everything" go-to gun if I am not grabbing an auto.  1/2 sized MGM Steel IPSC silhouettes at 600 yards are no problem.  This gun is light, fast and practical. It meets my needs perfectly

I still dig my lever guns though, just for the fun factor.

Thanks. These replies give me some food for thought.

Yummy.  

This thread had promises of a fat girl riding a moped, shooting a lever action.

This thread does not deliver.  I don't see a fat girl or a moped, just a lever action rifle.  I am confused.

while most of the stuff from DD looks well designed, their flashlight mount looks like it was cobbled together my the slow kid who flunked out of HS metalshop. it could be a heck of a lot cleaner. look at the Vltor mounts as an example of a clean, well designed mount.  

There was a moped at the bottom of page 1 , you have to provide your own fat girl .
Thanks for all the lever action porn and opinions so far yall.



 

yeah... one of the nicer scooters out there... excepting the big 400 and 650 mega scooters or the Piaggo MP3.

as for the thick girls... sorry, i don't want to post something then get dinged for a BOTD violation of something.  but check out  www.coopstuff.com  

i'd love to have a lever gun in 9mm. probably wouldn't be worth a damn past 75-100 yards (if that), but it would be fun to shoot.

Some one mention pie?

Pie and lever actions... it dont get any bettern that!

I have never seen a lever action that does bot use a rimed cartridge (well other then saw Savage 99 and Browning BLR)

What about the Winchester 1895 I didn't think 30-06 counted as rimed.

I think that my head will pop if I here again' the 30/30 is less likely to draw attention that an assault rifle"  I have heard this about a dozen times, from guys I know who should know better!

I have lived in 25 states-I have shot in each of them

In the more 'freedom' states, you can carry a 50 Barret down the street without people crowing

In the more 'liberal' states, it does not matter if its a 30/30 or a Uzi-expect cops on the way

The cats that really really worry me are the ones that leave their levers in the windows of their trucks ' cause its just a lever gun" and who would steal that right??

each place is is each place and nobody ( I believe YMMV)  that those that are cool on guns are cool and those that panic and call the the Police will always do that, lever or AR15

That being said, I love my 336! light, fast, goodly amount of rounds on board and I have hit steel poppers more often than not at 200yrds

I am of the belief that my 336 my 10/22 and my 12g 1100 are prety much all I need to hunt just about anything in north America

A 9mm "10/22" would be cool also. Anybody know where/if a "custom" 9mm lever action could be made?

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The 9mm version of the 10-22 is called a "Camp Carbine" . Pretty close actually. Had one, it just was not all that useful for me.

I believe that IMI of Israel made their Timberwolf Pump Action Carbine in 9mm. Not 100% sure but I'm damn thinking that they did. I do not for a fact that they chambered it in .357 Magnum.



As for the Ruger 10/22 in a 9mm...... It does exist. It's called the Ruger PC9. It worked of Ruger P89/95 Series Magazines. They recently discontinued the model. Also cranked them out in .40 S&W. heavy little blow back carbine.

I love my Winchester Trapper .357 with a 16" barrel. My Trapper was the second rifle I purchased a long time ago.  Very light and accurate. It's my truck gun. It's nice to have a pistol and rifle that can shoot the same ammo.

i thought about that, but they're ugly as sin and i've gotten mixed reviews.

A buddy of mines wife has a Marlin in.357 magnum. She shoots it well and often. I would in no way consider her un or underarmed. She owns the first hundred yards around her with that rifle.

This is my traveling truck gun, and it does something my ARs, and Rem 700s can't.
And that thing is called .45-70.

It now has a VTAC sling and a buttpouch.
Good rifle.

Marlin 336 in .35 Remington.

OK, can I edit that reply now

Don't post for pick that you don't want posted

bullet diameter is close to 9mm....

1974 Winchester 9422 LR  My father bought this brand new for my first gun.  Accurate, reliable and will take small game.

I like fat girls, fat girls GOOD!

I have always wanted a lever action. May get one some day.

Real close.  I used to reload 35 Rem with 357 pistol bullets!