Posted: 8/1/2009 3:29:23 PM EDT
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I read time and again, posts about
survival trailers Bug out bags bail out bags bug out vehicle BUG OUT BUG OUTS I have a serious question for the group Where you going? I know not all of us have a Rural place to go or will be welcomed at. I know not all of us have family in suburbia that will put us on the living room floor I know not many of us have that homestead in the mountains we spend weekends at..so. how do you get there/where, when 300,000 are trying to get to the same general direction from your town? How are you dealing with squatters in the private place or public park, you had picked out. whats your plans when you find cannibals have taken over your mountain retreat? curious 
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I would only bug out if my town was rendered too dangerous to live in, for example if a rail car carrying industrial chemicals was damaged, or if there was serious flooding. Under those circumstances, I would grab my go bag and other essentials and head away from the problem. I've got lots of friends in just about any direction from home, some within 100 miles some much farther away.
My plan for civil unrest, invasion, aliens, zombies, TEOTWAWKI and anything else along those lines is to shelter in place with all of my gear, food and comforts. Dig? |
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I am thinking everyone will leave , so I will stay. It would have to be a meteor, or the Chinese landing in NJ for me to leave. And that depends on the Chinese, might make a good $ selling them back the walmart stuff.
I am preparing for society to get stupid, lets see financial collapse, shortages, criminal threats, damn I live in NJ ... got that already |
At Gander Mountain today, I found what could be the perfect bug out aid. The "Little Guy" brand tear drop 6-Wide sport. The one I saw was in camo, and I fell in love. There is more than enough room to sleep several in comfort, and with the expanded metal section forward, enough room to really pack on the survival gear. 
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| With our very deep well a lack of electricity would cause us to have to bug out after about 1 week. I would head over to a friends house about 15 miles away. They have a 2 streams for water and are located even farther from population centers. It is solid country between here and there so not traffic lights to deal with. I can get most of the preps in the subi and trailer. Walking would suck as we live in very hilly country. |
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The powers that be in Austin have made it a crime to fail to evacuate once the order is given. It was aimed at those folks on the coast who refused to evac during the last round of hurricanes then whined for help when their houses blew down and started floating away. Personally, I supported the provision that those who don't evac after the order is given should be civilly liable for the costs of their rescue... the rest of the bill was overkill. Law takes effect 01 September 2009. 
This means it is imperative that a viable BOL is planned and prepped in an area unlikely to be affected by any event which makes bugging out from here necessary. === Now to answer your questions: Where you going? To our prepped bug out location. We belong to a group of like minded individuals who started out as friends first and preppers together much later. Doing this sort of thing on your own is several orders of magnitude more difficult than with a group. Family and friends are the logical place to start. You really find out who your friends are when things go wrong. A friend will help you hide. A true friend will help you hide the body.
How do you get there/where, when 300,000 are trying to get to the same general direction from your town? We drive. There are multiple alternate routes. We have extensively driven the area and have good paper maps with added notations. The area we live in has about 300,000 people in it, but the largest city is about 100,000. The major thoroughfares are going to be overwhelmed. Probably the better farm to market roads too. (FTM is a road designation in Texas, similar to a state highway elsewhere.) This leaves the county roads. DIfficult to use those without having to cross or follow the bigger roads for short distances. There are bridges that must be crossed, crossing elsewhere is not possible within reasonable distances. How are you dealing with squatters in the private place or public park, you had picked out. The BOL has people living there full time. In theory, they will keep it clear until we arrive then we all keep it clear. Hopefully, they'll let us in. 
We're not going to a public park and private property laws in Texas do not favor the individual who attempts to deprive an owner of his land. Whats your plans when you find cannibals have taken over your mountain retreat? Those individuals who insist on engaging in such antisocial behavior will be asked politely to leave. After which, we will follow Texas law.
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| I plan on staying put. I have food, water, ammo, guns, etc here. The area has lakes all over the place so I could truck in water. Lots of cattle, I plan on rustling some and sticking them in my backyard till I need to eat them. I guess it depends on what kind of shit hits the fan. I live a little closer to Fort Worth than I would like so if they went zombie on me that might be a problem, gov stormtroopers or invasion I think I could handle by hiding out, just depends. |
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Where you going? I know not all of us have a Rural place to go or will be welcomed at. I know not all of us have family in suburbia that will put us on the living room floor I know not many of us have that homestead in the mountains we spend weekends at..so Network and plan. or just sit and feel helpless. Yes not everyone has a fullbore super retreat or cabin in the woods or such. BUt network, meet others, PLAN PLAN and PLAN. SHTF wont always be about zombies and JBT with bluehelemts coming for you 
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Bug Out may be down the list of things we WANT to do. No one wants to get sick or hurt, either, but just like First Aid, Bug Out has to be somewhere in our plans. A person in an Apartment bulding may be more likely to jump than someone who has a homestead who has more reason to stay.
As the OP indicated, Let's say we have no family in other places, nor a BOL, nor friends who would put us up. You still need a plan. Even if it is "drive to X and pitch my Coleman tent" , that is better than "I have no place to go, what do i do?" The next stage in planning is all of the 'what ifs'. Bugging Out has a ton of "what ifs". Do I leave early to miss the mad-rush, and if so, do Zombies break into my home and take my stuff? Waht do i take, given the limited space? How much food? How much water? HOW MUCH AMMO!??
[Depressing] thought, what cool stuff gets left behind? What vehicle is best for my situation? What if traffic is gridlocked? How do I Bug Out via alternate means of transport? What if there are road blocks? Detours to a FEMA camp? Officials at State lines checking IDs, and at same time for weapons being transported? And that is just Plan A, it's always good to have B and C. To actually answer the question; What am I doing specifically, it actually depends on WHAT is making me leave, why, how long and how far. Someone evacuating a hurricane threat may be looking at 200 miles and 2 to 5 days. A nearby toxic spill you may be looking at only 50 or 100 miles, but could be 1 to 3 months! It all depends. Prepping is problem solving, if A then B, If X Then Y,....So is Bugging Out. |