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5/23/2009 2:59:31 PM EDT
Hi all!

Just looking for some more feedback on BOB contents.

Pack One:  Guy

(I will carry my AR and 1911)

4+1 AR 30 Round Magazines
3+1 1911 magazines
Gerber Multi-Tool
Knife
Steiner Binoculars
First Aid Kit (External Molle)
Radio
2 Radio Batteries
Extended Range Radio Antenna
In line water purifier
100MPH Tape
Flashlight
8 CR123 Batteries
Headlamp
Waterproof Matches
Toilet Paper
Baby Wipes
Diaper Rash Cream
Chap Stick
Gold Bond Powder
Compass
Map
Lighter
10 Zip Ties
2 Packs TriOxane
2 Garbage Bags (3 mil)
4 Packs Caffeine Gum
Sharpening Stone
Insect Repellent
Hygiene Kit (Toothbrush, Toothpaste, Tampons)
Meds
Surefire Earplugs
2 Lightsticks
Cotton
Whistle
Emergency Blanket
Firestarter
Carabiner
Otis Cleaning Kit
AR Repair Kit

Waterproof Jacket/Pants
2 Pairs Socks
2 Pairs Underwear
Gloves
Extra Moisture Wicking Undershirt

Titanium Spork
4 MRE Entrees
4 Mountainhouse Meals
4 Powerbars

Sleeping Bag
GI Camouflage Bivvy
Sleeping Pad

Tarp Shelter
Titanium Stakes
Paracord

Pack Two:  Wife  

(She will carry a lightweight Marlin .22)

300 rounds .22
Radio
2 Radio Batteries
Extended Radio Antenna
In line water purifier
Pump water purifier
Knife
100 MPH Tape
Flashlight
Waterproof Matches
Toilet Paper
Baby Wipes
Diaper Rash Cream
Chap Stick
Lighter
2 Packs TriOxane
2 Garbage Bags (3 mil)
Insect Repellent
Aluminum Foil (folded approx 2 feet)
BOB Fishing Kit
Hygiene Kit (Toothbrush, Toothpaste, Tampons)
Meds
Surefire Earplugs
Soap
2 Lightsticks
Camptowel
Cotton
Emergency Blanket
Needle and thread
Carabiner

Titanium Spork
6 Packs Tuna
2 Packs Chicken
4 Packs mashed potatoes
4 Powerbars

Snowpeak Stove
Snowpeak Lantern
2 Snowpeak Gas Canisters
Small Titanium Cook Set

Waterproof Jacket/Pants
2 Pairs Socks
2 Pairs Underwear
Gloves
Extra Moisture Wicking Undershirt

Sleeping Bag
GI Camouflage Bivvy
Sleeping Pad
5/23/2009 3:30:21 PM EDT
[#1]
Saw that you have a water filter, but how are you carrying the water, and how much? Didn't see it listed unless I missed it.

Toad
5/23/2009 3:42:34 PM EDT
[#2]
Quoted:
Saw that you have a water filter, but how are you carrying the water, and how much? Didn't see it listed unless I missed it.

Toad


Forgot to list it...100 oz internal hydration bladders in the packs.
5/23/2009 3:51:11 PM EDT
[#3]
At a quick glance I would have to say more batteries, less ammo (for both of you), any fire fight will probably not expend one magazine, especially since you are the moving party and will be prey to an ambush if it comes down to it.  The batteries will more likely to be used as you have both flashlights and radios; they would also be a good trade item.

Also, why the trioxane? Unless I am missing something (a distinct possibility), you don't have any equipment to use them (stove or cup/pan).

I would probably get right of the Lantern & Stove setup.  If you are hungry and on foot, there is a good chance that many other will be also.  Both of those would be major attractants of unwanted attention.  Instead I would recommend either MRE heaters (they can be used under a cover) or food that can be eaten cold.
5/23/2009 5:28:51 PM EDT
[#4]
Do you have a place to go (BOL, ect?) or is this a bag to live out of until you can find some place more permanent?  Your bag will probably be set up a little different for either one.

my $0.02

More zipties.  (they have saved my butt idk how many times)

Ditch the lantern.

A decent folding saw will probably come in handy.

When you say "knife" I am assuming that you mean a med. to largish sized fixed blade of decent construction.

The best way to set your kit up is put everything that you think that you will need in it, then go use it. Keep notes on what gets used and what doesn't.  You will be supprised what a couple of weekend trips will tell you.  If it were up to me, I would work my kit down to a minimum and then build back up to a reasonable weight with more food.

Just for fun, can we see some pics?
5/23/2009 7:26:58 PM EDT
[#5]
Quoted:
Do you have a place to go (BOL, ect?) or is this a bag to live out of until you can find some place more permanent?  Your bag will probably be set up a little different for either one.

my $0.02

More zipties.  (they have saved my butt idk how many times)

Ditch the lantern.

A decent folding saw will probably come in handy.

When you say "knife" I am assuming that you mean a med. to largish sized fixed blade of decent construction.

The best way to set your kit up is put everything that you think that you will need in it, then go use it. Keep notes on what gets used and what doesn't.  You will be supprised what a couple of weekend trips will tell you.  If it were up to me, I would work my kit down to a minimum and then build back up to a reasonable weight with more food.

Just for fun, can we see some pics?


Yep...have a place to go.  This also serves the purpose of being an emergency response go-to bag if we have to roll out quickly to assist other members of our families/friends for hurricanes or other disasters.

As to the lantern...I love that little thing.  Just in case you haven't seen one, here it is:



I've taken this thing on every long-range hike that I've gone on and it is always a welcome addition.

The knife is a SOG Seal...although I am looking to upgrade.  I do alot of lightweight backpacking and most of this stuff has served me well in the past.

ETA:  I'm going to add one of those Gerber folding saws as well.
5/23/2009 7:33:09 PM EDT
[#6]
Sunglasses, seriously.
5/24/2009 2:22:36 AM EDT
[#7]
a better FAK
5/24/2009 4:42:50 AM EDT
[#8]
I would suggest that you ditch the cleaning kit. How many rounds can you put through your AR before the accuracy drops off? If its like mine its in the many hundreds. I am going to carry two sections of a jointed aluminum rod for pushing a stuck bullet, small CLP, nylon brush (tooth brush size), and a bore snake. It all weighs just a few oz.

Not sure how much the Otis weighs and it only addresses the bore iirc.

Does your Gerber have a diamond file? If it does, dump the knife sharpener. If you don't do stupid things to your knife, it will do just fine for a month or two (hopefully you will be safe way before that).

Does someone you are going to see have a radio they can respond to you on your long range radio? I keep a simple am/fm/sw radio to keep up on current events. Unless I was directly communicating with someone at my BOL or family back in the disaster zone. Is it really necessary?

I think Gold Bond takes the place of diaper rash cream, but that is a really an individual call.

The gerber folding saws kick ass. You can cut wood for a fire without making a lot of noise. Far better than a hatchet or machete. They are worth their weight. I used the hell out of mine on my last camp out.  

Do those binoculars do anything that a smaller, lighter monocular can do?

The whistle seems like a small thing, but it all adds up. I would dump it unless it fills a specific role in your plan.

You have an inline filter. How do you plan on filling the bladder? Dunking it in suspect water and shoving it into your pack? I would rather spend a couple extra minutes and pump clean water into the bladder. Yes, my way is slower, but it keeps dirty water completely out of the pack and bladder. I like my Katydyn Hiker Pro. Again, just my opinion.

I keep a small nalgene that I can pump water into for around camp. I keep some of those little koolaid and electrolyte premix packs for a little flavor and it takes just a few seconds.

Your garbage bags are your emergency blankets. Dump the shiny blanket.

More food for you! It disappears quickly into your belly and keeps your morale high.

I carry more ammo than you, but you have to make that decision. I just don't mind the extra weight.

My AR repair kit consists of a bolt carrier group and that is it.

300 rounds of .22 for that marlin is a hell of a lot of mag changes or tube stuffings. I think dropping to 200 rounds would be more than adequate and make her burden more manageable.

That lantern is not really necessary. Again, up to you.

All in all, its a very well thought out kit.
5/24/2009 10:21:08 AM EDT
[#9]
I have 2 minimags in my bob, both have a 3 led head on them and seem to run forever. Not the greatest gun light, but a nice small light that you dont have to carry extra batteries for.
sean