Posted: 4/9/2009 12:22:49 AM EDT
| How do you store your Ammo securly?...with Ammo prices going up how are you securing your inventory?. I was thinking about a "gang box" lie on construction sites. Any suggestions? |
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im actually thinking about building a compartment under my garage floor. im about to pour the floor, and one end will have about 5 feet, where im going to hide a gun safe behind a wall. i was thinking dig a rectangular hole, concrete it, and then make a concrete lid, ( have to use a winch or come along to lift the lid ( 100-200 pound lid), that will also be hidden behind the wall. it would be
1 ..extremly hard to find 2.. fireproof ( which is my biggest worry)....anyway thats my thought, or use my old safe to store ammo, , when i buy my new bigger one, hidden in same location. |
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How do you store your Ammo securly?...with Ammo prices going up how are you securing your inventory?. I was thinking about a "gang box" lie on construction sites. Any suggestions? THere's a guy that uses a gang (or job) box on the ammo forum. My thought was to bolt it to your garage floor, line it with sheetrock like a fireproof gun safe and then lock it up. But the only way it makes sense is if you can get the box for cheap. I looked high and low at local pawn shops to no avail. A good one is about $250 new. That's approaching the cost of a dent-and-scratch Redhead safe at Bass Pro. |
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I brought a Stack On 8 gun safe for $99 just for this a while back, and built in 2x4 and plywood shelving inside, and bolted it through the floor and to the wall.
Though I wouldn't trust putting guns in it, you can get alot of ammo into it if you unbox the ammo and put it in cans. |
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I picked up a like new gang box off Craigslist for $140. They are out there. Boxes that are a little beat up are even cheaper.
Like this one |
| im worried about theft as my stash slowly grows. however im much more worried about a fire. i keep mine in ammo cans, in the garage/barn, one fire would destroy everything. im looking into things that are fire proof....i do like the job boxes.... but id never be able to fit it all in one. guess im digging a hole, and gonna line it with a lot of plastic. wont be too deep, probably 3'widex5' long, and 3' deep. something close to that size. or, a flammable materials cabinet, and insulate it, with concrete block and dry wall..... |
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im actually thinking about building a compartment under my garage floor. im about to pour the floor, and one end will have about 5 feet, where im going to hide a gun safe behind a wall. i was thinking dig a rectangular hole, concrete it, and then make a concrete lid, ( have to use a winch or come along to lift the lid ( 100-200 pound lid), that will also be hidden behind the wall. it would be 1 ..extremly hard to find 2.. fireproof ( which is my biggest worry)....anyway thats my thought, or use my old safe to store ammo, , when i buy my new bigger one, hidden in same location. If it's underground, you'll need to ventilate it. when you pour the box, install two 4" PVC pipes into the box, one high and one low. Run them outside of the box and arrange them so one doesn't blow at the other. Use a bathroom vent fan for force air into one of the pipes, preferably the one down low. Control it with a humidity sensor such as a dehumidifier control. I've seen similar setups and they do work. IM me, I've had a hand into similar projects. Ops |
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Ammo's greatest curse and benefit is that is is heavy.
Make it hard for a crook. Dont put it all in easy carry cans. Stacks of smaller boxes have to be moved one at a time. An alarm system will still let them break in but denies them what they need to move a lot of ammo......time. |
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I've considered something more robust, but in a fire I don't want internal heat and pressure to build too high. http://home.comcast.net/~cjan99999/Ammo3.JPG http://home.comcast.net/~cjan99999/Padlock.JPG In the ceiling, two feet in front of the locker: http://home.comcast.net/~cjan99999/Sprinkler.JPG Some angle bar stock and screws will shore up that iffy shelf. Just scab it on the inside, and run it as close to both ends as you can, it'll go into shear and stiffen that ding nicely. To the OP and others, if you aren't on a slab, watch your floors too. You can really hammer a couple-three joists, forever, if you point load them in the middle. Try to get above or near a bearing wall underneath your ammo. Wood, plus concentrated heavy loads equals rubber band, in the long run. Look for high spots in your floor system too. If a joist runs over a wall, bearing or not, and you load one section midspan, adjacent spans of the same joist will bow UP, it's a potential warning indicator. How much dessicant do folks here recommend per ammo can? |
| I have a "gang box" tool chest that I lock all of my tools up in, two doors, kind of a big cabinet with shelves. This summer I am going to weld up an additional locker that will go underneath of it that is sized to fit ammo cans. then the whole thing will be attached to the concrete wall. |
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I just keep mine on a shelf by the safe. When i moved last year, I discovered how hard it is to move all that. I also found a few thousand rounds that I forgot I had  It took me several trips in the car, and I was quite tuckered out by the time I was done. I doubt that thieves would want to spend hours for ammo. Unless it is you guys... 
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I have been giving some thought to this lately, and I was thinking along the lines of subversion or 'hiding in plain sight'. Most every household has a few of those rubbermaid or similar storage bins, in the closet or garage. Fill the bottom up with your ordinance, then throw some blankets on the top, and voila - instant cover.
Use different colored containers for each caliber. For you hoarders, this may require too many plastic boxes and lead to a shortage in global plastics, but you get the idea. Plus, your significant other may actually get 'on board' with such a program, as additional storage for blankets etc. will be created as well. |
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I have been giving some thought to this lately, and I was thinking along the lines of subversion or 'hiding in plain sight'. Most every household has a few of those rubbermaid or similar storage bins, in the closet or garage. Fill the bottom up with your ordinance, then throw some blankets on the top, and voila - instant cover. Use different colored containers for each caliber. For you hoarders, this may require too many plastic boxes and lead to a shortage in global plastics, but you get the idea. Plus, your significant other may actually get 'on board' with such a program, as additional storage for blankets etc. will be created as well. I use an old upright freezer. It came with a lock ( looks like a vending machine lock). i just bolted it to the wall in the garage. Every one thinks it is just a freezer. You can fit quite a bit of ammo in it. |
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im worried about theft as my stash slowly grows. however im much more worried about a fire. i keep mine in ammo cans, in the garage/barn, one fire would destroy everything. im looking into things that are fire proof....i do like the job boxes.... but id never be able to fit it all in one. guess im digging a hole, and gonna line it with a lot of plastic. wont be too deep, probably 3'widex5' long, and 3' deep. something close to that size. or, a flammable materials cabinet, and insulate it, with concrete block and dry wall..... Since the higher up the wall the hotter the fire you might want to consider keeping the ammo close to the floor. Also the lower it is to the floor the harder it is to pickup and walk off with. In fact I would keep all ammo in their individual boxes instead of ammo cans or other means. |
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What do you think about just leaving it up to renter's insurance? I hate to rely on someone else to replace it, but my apartment only has so much space.
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I use an old upright freezer. It came with a lock ( looks like a vending machine lock). i just bolted it to the wall in the garage. Every one thinks it is just a freezer. You can fit quite a bit of ammo in it. Sounds neat. Have any pictures? |
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Tip from someone who had half of their ammo stash stolen.
Security measures are great. However, they can always fail divide your ammo into two. Put one at location A and the other at location B. Preferably the two locations will have geographic distance between the two. This saved me. At least I didn't lose all of my ammo. However, I did lose over 2,500 rounds. 1,000 of which were PCA spectrum (plastic crap 223). I hope the gangster that sold them, or tries to use them gets their rifle blown up, or shot by a pissed off customer. It could have been my radway green but that was in a different location. Tip 2. Don't leave ammo in your car overnight. I was moving and made a stupid mistake. Also by car alarms and home alarms. Nothing better at deterring burglars. My car was broken into 3 times before I got the car alarm. Hasn't been broken into since. The other thing that works are the brake pedal locks. They never were able to steal my car with it on. |
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What do you think about just leaving it up to renter's insurance? I hate to rely on someone else to replace it, but my apartment only has so much space. Quoted:
I use an old upright freezer. It came with a lock ( looks like a vending machine lock). i just bolted it to the wall in the garage. Every one thinks it is just a freezer. You can fit quite a bit of ammo in it. Sounds neat. Have any pictures? I'll see what I can do |