Posted: 3/11/2009 9:38:14 AM EDT
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I got to take the Tactical Response Fighting Pistol class last weekend. You can read my full review as well as those of others who attended at http://getoffthex.com/eve/forums/a/tpc/f/6321031321/m/80210383
We often talk about training here in the SF, but I really didn't know how bad I needed it until I went to this class. I learned so much in this class I can't put it all into words. I feel so much more prepared to handle a bad situation than I did before. After all, what good are all of my preps if I can't really defend them. I realize now that all the guns and ammo I have are useless unless I really don't know how to fight with them. And there is a difference in shooting a gun and fighting with one. I will be going to many more of Tactical Response's classes in the future. There are some Fighting Rifle classes right here in Texas coming up in September if anyone is interested. I plan to be there. David |
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I am a Police rangemaster. I teach my officers how to shoot, but teaching them how to think and fight with their weapons is much harder than one thinks. Pulling a trigger is one thing; shooting, moving, & reloading while cutting the pie and communicating with your team mates is another. |
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We often talk about training here in the SF, but I really didn't know how bad I needed it until I went to this class. I learned so much in this class I can't put it all into words. I feel so much more prepared to handle a bad situation than I did before. After all, what good are all of my preps if I can't really defend them. I realize now that all the guns and ammo I have are useless unless I really don't know how to fight with them. And there is a difference in shooting a gun and fighting with one. I will be going to many more of Tactical Response's classes in the future. There are some Fighting Rifle classes right here in Texas coming up in September if anyone is interested. I plan to be there. David Welcome to "the light". I realize now that all the guns and ammo I have are useless unless I really don't know how to fight with them. And there is a difference in shooting a gun and fighting with one.
You can't buy competence and "software" is far more important than "hardware". |
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Half, I'll try to set some money aside for September. Been a while since I took a class and I need to update skills. Good training is a real eye-opener.. Ops Amen to that. A lot of sacred cows were slain during my own first carbine class. Nearly everthing I thought I knew was either wrong and/or outdated, and could have easily gotten me killed. Static range shooting simply doesn't prepare you for shooting on the move, reloading on the move, and using cover effectively. I went into that class confident that I had the basics covered. As it turned out I didn't even know what I didn't know, and that was quite a revelation for me. While my training isn't anywhere near where it should be at least I'm not as dangerous to myself and loved ones as I was when I was untrained. Having a gun is a good start, but only with proper training can you turn that gun into a weapon. |
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I've come to realize from this class that thinking I was trained just because I go out and shoot is the same as a boxer thinking he is ready for a big fight just because he hit the heavy bag everyday. I realize how wrong that thinking is now.
Tactical Response holds an Alumni weekend every year for its students. This year the theme is Disaster Prep / Civil Unrest / Bugout. AC and I are talking about going. The four days before the weekend they are having the Fighting Pistol/Advanced Fighting Pistol class. We are thinking we might take both of those. I know I can get a lot out of a review of FP and I really want to take the AFP. If anyone would like to meet us there, let me know. |
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I have taken 3 TR courses and a LMS defense course (last man standing). they are all good schools, but the training and practice needs to be incorporated into personal training on your weekends.
a 2 or three day class does not make you a spec ops fighter. just like going to the gym for a week does not make you a body builder. now that you have some ideas as to what fighting with a gun is, now the real work and training begins. just when ammo and prices have reached their peak. 
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I got to take the Tactical Response Fighting Pistol class last weekend. You can read my full review as well as those of others who attended at http://getoffthex.com/eve/forums/a/tpc/f/6321031321/m/80210383 We often talk about training here in the SF, but I really didn't know how bad I needed it until I went to this class. Most dont. Of those that do, many wont admit it. I learned so much in this class I can't put it all into words. I feel so much more prepared to handle a bad situation than I did before. After all, what good are all of my preps if I can't really defend them.
Bingo. I realize now that all the guns and ammo I have are useless unless I really don't know how to fight with them. And there is a difference in shooting a gun and fighting with one.
Double bingo. There is a huge difference. I will be going to many more of Tactical Response's classes in the future. There are some Fighting Rifle classes right here in Texas coming up in September if anyone is interested. I plan to be there.
David Just a tip, take some from others as well. Then, combine the things that you learn from them all into your own TTP's. And, Congratulations. 
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Did I make it in before the inevitable "I don't need a Carbine/Handgun course I've been shooting since I was knee high to a grasshopper" or the "I don't need to take a course I have a book/video/DVD from XYZ..." comments? i got multicam i dont need to train 
good on you half for getting some class time!! 
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I've come to realize from this class that thinking I was trained just because I go out and shoot is the same as a boxer thinking he is ready for a big fight just because he hit the heavy bag everyday. I realize how wrong that thinking is now. "Having a gun and thinking you are armed is like having a piano and thinking you are a musician" –––––– Col. Jeff Cooper (U.S.M.C. Ret.) |
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Welcome to "the light". You can't buy competence and "software" is far more important than "hardware". You stole that from our old friend Fight4yourrights didn't you
Actually, I'm not sure. Regardless, it's like spreading the Gospel. Nobody ever accused the Apostles of plagiarizing Jesus.
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Years ago I spent some time as a "training dummy" and role player in the FFKG/Rich Daniel/"The Place too Shoot" handgun classes. After students achieved some standard range proficiency we would but them into Simunition and Airsoft "Live Fire" scenarios and exercises. Watching some students short circuit and come unglued was amazing. Watching them train through it and actually learn how to fight was beautiful. |
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Believe it or not I went with Halffast to take fighting pistol the following are some of my thoughts.
Tactical Response “Fighting Pistol” Review James, Allen and fucking Brian were the instructors. Why I wanted to take this class. I’ve always been into guns and while it sometimes doesn’t look like it I’ve been shooting for 34~yrs. I was doing research looking for a place that taught gun fighting skills. While doing research on where I wanted to take a class from I read every online review I could find. One of the reviews I read about “Fighting Pistol” was a student who said he was scared in class breaking the “180 rule” was just beyond his comprehension I guess. I knew that was the class for me. The gun handling skills taught and the explanation of why they are to be performed that way were logical and well thought out in my opinion. Not once was I thinking that doesn’t sound like a good idea. I took a lot of good stuff away from this. From now on I will handle my pistol one way and practice the methods I learned in this class. While this wasn’t really a marksmanship class it was covered and the Allen dot drill is something I will incorporate. I have serious issues some days with trigger control and I believe this will help. The lecture about mindset, situational awareness and keeping your life in order was just fucking outstanding. I don’t think I know anyone who wouldn’t benefit from this part of the class. While I’m personally good with the mindset and the keeping my life’s business in order I’m often lax with situational awareness. That’s something I’m going to strive to correct. It’s truly a shame that every new shooter doesn’t get to start out with this class. Btw Saturday while we were at class a misunderstood youth brandished a pistol at one of my coworkers this happened in a small town of about 30k people stay vigilant folks |