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2/22/2009 4:27:20 AM EDT
I have a 10HP Briggs  5000kw gen that is super-loud.   The muffler is not blown out or rusted out,  it's juts plain loud.

Looking for some ideas,  or to hear from someone who has successfully muffled their gen more than stock.

ideas:  
Build a glass packed silencer like a dirt bike design.
Bolt on a muffler meant for a small car
Dig hole in the groud and direct into the hole

Anyone have any thoughts?

Here is what the stock muffler looks like:


And I did find this article:
Quieting a Generator


2/22/2009 5:04:29 AM EDT
[#1]
This looks like a well done mod



2/22/2009 6:03:27 AM EDT
[#2]
Quoted:
This looks like a well done mod

http://www.bedair.org/Generac/GEN1.JPG



I did something very similar to mine and it worked like a charm!
2/22/2009 6:55:44 AM EDT
[#3]
seems like you would have to brace it well to the engine.  It would be bad to crack the block or something from the extra weight on the threads.
2/22/2009 6:56:17 AM EDT
[#4]
We regularly put generators in a hole in the ground in the military. Worked great.
2/22/2009 7:14:41 AM EDT
[#5]
Tag for more information.

My Genset is way too loud
2/22/2009 7:27:46 AM EDT
[#6]
tag
2/22/2009 7:54:52 AM EDT
[#7]
That muffler setup looks cool.
Don't the engines themselves generate(!) a lot of noise?
Maybe an insulated box.
2/22/2009 7:59:12 AM EDT
[#8]
tag
2/22/2009 8:00:10 AM EDT
[#9]
This has been discussed before with the only real resolution being to bury the gen set.  Much of the noise is NOT from the exhaust, but the engine itself.  Search some of the RV forums on other sites.  You will soon realize your pissing in the wind on this one.  I fought and fought mine and ended up with a Honda EU series.  Wouldn't go back.  Pricey?  YES.  Worth it?  I think so every time I start it.  Stuart
2/22/2009 8:36:28 AM EDT
[#10]
Yea the cheap construction type generators are real loud... A tank could roll up to my front door and I wouldnt hear it...I'm looking at ripping out my motorhome genny and using it instead.. It's an Onan and isalmost whisper quiet compared to my other one... Motorhome is permanently hooked up at our weekend place anyway and dont need it...
2/22/2009 8:50:02 AM EDT
[#11]
Quoted:
This has been discussed before with the only real resolution being to bury the gen set.  Much of the noise is NOT from the exhaust, but the engine itself.  Search some of the RV forums on other sites.  You will soon realize your pissing in the wind on this one.  I fought and fought mine and ended up with a Honda EU series.  Wouldn't go back.  Pricey?  YES.  Worth it?  I think so every time I start it.  Stuart


many people have had good lucke building and insulated enclosure and running the exhaust down into a hole partially filled w/ water.  the exhaust is run under the water three or four inches.  

another option is to build a top less enclosure about 6 or so feet high that directs the sound up.
2/22/2009 9:03:23 AM EDT
[#12]
Aren't almost all of the generators air cooled?  Something to keep in mind if building an enclosure.

Some baffles and a fan would help if heat became an issue.
2/22/2009 9:18:52 AM EDT
[#13]
Quoted:

running the exhaust down into a hole partially filled w/ water.  the exhaust is run under the water three or four inches.  



Pretty good idea!  If you took a foot long section of pipe, drilled a bunch of 1/4" holes in it and then submersed it in a couple of inches of water the backpressure would be minimized.

At Home Depot you can get a 1/2 - 1" thick 4'x8' sheets of syra-foam insulation for $10-20 to build a dog. A 12v fan pushing air thru a baffle with a couple of right angle turns should cut down on engine noise.

I'm going to try this later in the year.
2/22/2009 9:19:26 AM EDT
[#14]
Quoted:
Quoted:
This looks like a well done mod

http://www.bedair.org/Generac/GEN1.JPG



I did something very similar to mine and it worked like a charm!


Great,  good to know.   thanks.

Clarification for all:   I'm not trying to make it whisper quiet,  just knock it down to bearable.

Dig a hole, sand bag it, insulated enclosure, all would cut down on the internal machine noise,  for sure.
As someone already noted,  make sur there is air flow,  as they are air cooled.

I'm going to try a small auto-muffler,  or an ATV muffler.

Easy enough to make brackets to hang from the generator frame.

thanks for the input.



2/22/2009 9:27:48 AM EDT
[#15]
Quoted:
This looks like a well done mod

http://www.bedair.org/Generac/GEN1.JPG


Any more info on this one? I have an almost identical model (mine's a 5500) and would like to mod mine similarly.
2/22/2009 10:03:33 AM EDT
[#16]
Quoted:
Quoted:
This has been discussed before with the only real resolution being to bury the gen set.  Much of the noise is NOT from the exhaust, but the engine itself.  Search some of the RV forums on other sites.  You will soon realize your pissing in the wind on this one.  I fought and fought mine and ended up with a Honda EU series.  Wouldn't go back.  Pricey?  YES.  Worth it?  I think so every time I start it.  Stuart


many people have had good lucke building and insulated enclosure and running the exhaust down into a hole partially filled w/ water.  the exhaust is run under the water three or four inches.  

another option is to build a top less enclosure about 6 or so feet high that directs the sound up.


The Ultimate Bong?
2/22/2009 10:46:10 AM EDT
[#17]
Quoted:
Quoted:
This looks like a well done mod

http://www.bedair.org/Generac/GEN1.JPG


Any more info on this one? I have an almost identical model (mine's a 5500) and would like to mod mine similarly.


Tag for parts list and instructions.
2/22/2009 12:02:47 PM EDT
[#18]
Quoted:
Quoted:
Quoted:
This looks like a well done mod

http://www.bedair.org/Generac/GEN1.JPG


Any more info on this one? I have an almost identical model (mine's a 5500) and would like to mod mine similarly.


Tag for parts list and instructions.


Link

2/22/2009 12:51:07 PM EDT
[#19]
Quoted:
Quoted:
Quoted:
Quoted:
This looks like a well done mod

http://www.bedair.org/Generac/GEN1.JPG


Any more info on this one? I have an almost identical model (mine's a 5500) and would like to mod mine similarly.


Tag for parts list and instructions.


Link


Many thanks! Going into the Spring storm season, this is something I'd like to do.

2/22/2009 7:13:33 PM EDT
[#20]
I'm going to check with a mechanic buddy,  for a decent used muffler.  
Also will check Advanced Auto for Cherry Bombs and "turbo" mufflers.

I hate to say it,  but I think I passed one by in the past 2 weeks on the side of the road.
I remember thinking to myslef,  "Now that looks like an almost new muffler".
drat!


2/22/2009 7:39:22 PM EDT
[#21]
I had good luck with stacking concrete block arround the generator.  Getting air to the generator isn't much of an issue in most conditions becasue the hot air from the generator rises.  If you want to line the generaoter, forget foam- too light and flamiable.  Something heavier like sheetrock would work better, as would the asphalt impregnated mineral fiber sheets used for expansion joints in concrete.  if you want two layers of block, you could fill the space in between with sand.

Good mufflers can be had at TSC.  I would attach them with flexable exhaust hose.  You could bury the muffler under sand to reduce noise.
2/23/2009 4:33:19 AM EDT
[#22]
they make " silencers" for atv mufflers.......................maybe one of those could be mounted to a genny. they cut a atv noise by 50%
2/23/2009 10:04:19 AM EDT
[#23]
tag
2/23/2009 3:45:17 PM EDT
[#24]
Quoted:
they make " silencers" for atv mufflers.......................maybe one of those could be mounted to a genny. they cut a atv noise by 50%


yeah,  I thought of that too,  I have a muffler/silencer from a Honda TRX90,  
but I'll have to check the pipe diameter,  it's pretty small as I remember.

Anything has to help.



2/23/2009 8:49:55 PM EDT
[#25]
I'm thinking an insulated fake doghouse sitting atop the concrete slab with huge steel loop my soon-to-be-purchased Briggs and Strat 8K/13.5K will be chained to.