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4/8/2008 9:54:41 PM EDT
I heard about "sulfuring" today for the first time and Googled it when I got home.  I'm sure there are tons of other methods and techniques that are either old and forgotten or region specific.  The person who told me is not much older, but grew up in an entirely different environment.

Sulfured Apples, anyone?
Taken from The War Garden Victorious - Victory Edition 1919 HOME CANNING & DRYING of Vegetables & Fruits (Appendix II, p. 27) [Links to Google Books PDF for download].
It's a great resource for a somewhat more primitive society, in terms of technologic convenience.


Sulphuring Fruits*

Apples, pears, peaches and apricots are subject to chemical changes as soon as the skin is removed or the flesh exposed to the air. To stop these changes and so preserve the natural appearance, color and flavor, it is necessary, before drying, to sulphur these fruits, as they can not be blanched. Blanching causes loss of sugars in the blanching process and dripping of the juice occurs when blanched fruits are subjected to the heat of the drier. Sulphuring does not affect the food value of the fruits and is not injurious to persons using them.
Provide a box large enough to enclose a stack of trays. This may be a packing box or a _frame_ covered with canvas, building paper or wall-board. Stack the filled trays on bricks or blocks of wood which will hold the bottom tray several inches above the ground. The trays should be separated from each other by blocks of wood. Beneath this stack place one or two sticks of sulphur in an old saucepan, shovel or other holder. Set fire to this sulphur by using coals or lighted shavings and invert the box to cover trays and reach to the ground. Add sulphur as needed during the time specified in the directions. The time varies with various fruits and is given in special directions on pages 27 and 28.


Anyone, else?
4/8/2008 11:04:17 PM EDT
[#1]
I seam to recall sulfur being the secret ingredient in certain brands of lemonade.
4/9/2008 3:42:17 AM EDT
[#2]
Sulfuring sounds like more of a cosmetic thing then anything, but still interesting!
4/9/2008 9:07:44 AM EDT
[#3]
Seems I remember reading about this method in one of the Fox fire books. I remember asking an elderly relative about it and was told that it didn't matter what method you used to prepare them that you would always be able to taste the sulphur in them.
4/9/2008 10:16:54 AM EDT
[#4]
Just a little trivia, when I was boy fresh fruit was still pretty much seasonable in the area I lived.  Sulpher apples were still quite popular then and were often served up on a stick just like candy apples in season.  

Like anything different, it is an acquired taste but after you have done without apples for while, you'll acquire it.

It was once a powerful part of Americana a part that had died with our global economy and a part that wouldn't surprise me in the least that came back should that change.

Tj
4/9/2008 10:45:31 AM EDT
[#5]

Quoted:
Sulfuring sounds like more of a cosmetic thing then anything, but still interesting!

i asked my wife about it and she said that she understood it to be mainly to preserve the coloring.

an interesting testament to the OP's statement about lost ways of preserving food, my wife is in her early 30's and absolutely loves gardening.  when she wanted to figure out how to preserve the fruits and vegetables the obvious choice was canning.  she must have asked 30 or 40 different peolple, young and old about canning and how to do it.  most of the people older than her remembered seeing their mother canning, but few knew how to do it.  out of the people our age and younger, absolutely zero knew how to can.  and a small portion didn't even know what canning was.
4/9/2008 10:49:08 AM EDT
[#6]

Quoted:
I heard about "sulfuring" today for the first time and Googled it when I got home.  I'm sure there are tons of other methods and techniques that are either old and forgotten or region specific.  The person who told me is not much older, but grew up in an entirely different environment.

Sulfuring isn't really forgotten. Lots of grocery store or trailmix dried fruits are sulfured, such as pineapple, apple, and apricots.

4/9/2008 10:52:07 AM EDT
[#7]

Quoted:
Seems I remember reading about this method in one of the Fox fire books. I remember asking an elderly relative about it and was told that it didn't matter what method you used to prepare them that you would always be able to taste the sulphur in them.


Interesting that the 3 of us (including me, now) who have heard of it are all in ETN.  Must have been VERY popular here.

As to the taste I read this in the Oak Ridger
Linky: oakridger.com/stories/101303/com_20031013033.shtml


[SNIP]
The apples could then be stored in the smokehouse or another location, Berkley said. The only drawback is that the sulphured apples shouldn't be used for three to four months because the freshly sulphured apples keep that sulphur smell.
[/SNIP]


My friend says he has a sulfuring machine in his basement.  From the description of the process, I can't imagine a need for a "machine". (Fire + Sulfur + Apples + Flour Sack = Sulfured Apples) Prolly just a metal tub or rack with a little plate to burn the sulfur on.  And from the way he described it, his parents sulfured whole apples, not slices.  According to one Google result, that allowed enough sulfur into the meat of the fruit to prevent browning but did not effect the taste, as long as the peel was removed.  No info on how long whole sulfured apple would last, or proper storage.  I have to find out more and give it a shot this summer.  
4/9/2008 10:54:10 AM EDT
[#8]

Quoted:

Quoted:
I heard about "sulfuring" today for the first time and Googled it when I got home.  I'm sure there are tons of other methods and techniques that are either old and forgotten or region specific.  The person who told me is not much older, but grew up in an entirely different environment.

Sulfuring isn't really forgotten. Lots of grocery store or trailmix dried fruits are sulfured, such as pineapple, apple, and apricots.



True, I've see sulfur compounds in ingredient lists, but I mean it is forgotten as something people do at home.  Kinda like making soap, ya know?
4/9/2008 11:06:04 AM EDT
[#9]

Quoted:

Quoted:
Seems I remember reading about this method in one of the Fox fire books. I remember asking an elderly relative about it and was told that it didn't matter what method you used to prepare them that you would always be able to taste the sulphur in them.


Interesting that the 3 of us (including me, now) who have heard of it are all in ETN.  Must have been VERY popular here.

As to the taste I read this in the Oak Ridger
Linky: oakridger.com/stories/101303/com_20031013033.shtml


[SNIP]
The apples could then be stored in the smokehouse or another location, Berkley said. The only drawback is that the sulphured apples shouldn't be used for three to four months because the freshly sulphured apples keep that sulphur smell.
[/SNIP]


My friend says he has a sulfuring machine in his basement.  From the description of the process, I can't imagine a need for a "machine". (Fire + Sulfur + Apples + Flour Sack = Sulfured Apples) Prolly just a metal tub or rack with a little plate to burn the sulfur on.  And from the way he described it, his parents sulfured whole apples, not slices.  According to one Google result, that allowed enough sulfur into the meat of the fruit to prevent browning but did not effect the taste, as long as the peel was removed.  No info on how long whole sulfured apple would last, or proper storage.  I have to find out more and give it a shot this summer.  


Its really an Appalachia thing.  As little as 50 years ago in the mountains of Appalachia, people were still living pretty much like the western US in the late 1800s with many folks still living on self sustaining farms.  With few major highways into the area and not that much of a market for fresh produce, there wasn't that much.   Hard to sell an apple to a guy who has apples trees. To this day I probably still enjoy canned peaches or pears as much as fresh.  

Like most self sustaining farms, they consisted of a collage of small outbuildings each with a specialized purpose.  Wood was abundant and still is in Appalachia and saw mills many on the farm or a close by neighor.  Just like there was a smoke house for meat, there was a sulpher house for fruit.  Typically early fruit would be dried on the front porch.  It was quite decorate and a heavenly smell of course battling flies was a way of life and grandma's job to sit on the porch making sun tea and swatting flies in her wood rocker.  Everybody had a role.  Later in the season, the sun would become too hot to be on the porch and turn to clouds as fall set in and preservation turned from drying to sulpher.  Sulpher apples were considered a special treat on Holloween night.  

Well those days are long gone now guys.  Grandma no longer swats the flies and makes the tea, she's in a rest home and the kids instead of picking apples go to Krogers.    

Tj
4/9/2008 11:24:44 AM EDT
[#10]
Ok, here's another good one

From www.joepastry.com/index.php?s=candied

Humans had of course been preserving fruit in sugary substances long before the Middle Ages. The ancients preserved whole fruits in honey, since not only is honey an extremely dense sugar (and sugar is as deadly to microbes as salt), it also contains acid, which helps shut down the browning and ripening enzymes in the fruit's flesh. But while preserving in honey can be a very effective technique, honey's relative scarcity made it impractical for large-scale preserving. Likewise with sapa, a kind of intensely boiled-down grape juice that the Romans used for the same purpose.


The article goes on to discuss the arrival of cane sugar.  I won't be growing any of that,  So, anyone know the process on the grape juice method?

Now Tom, if you start talking about how you sat on the porch and watched the Legions march by, I'm gonna have to call BS . . . on the other hand you ARE ancient.
4/9/2008 12:52:12 PM EDT
[#11]
When I was a kid we used to dry a lot of fruit from our trees.  We used the sulpher method before setting them out in the sun.  You cut the fruit in half, take out the pit and place on a wood drying tray.  Stack them in a box pour a pile of sulpher on the ground inthe box, light it and cover with a canvas tarp.  Come back in a few hours and set the trays in the sun.  One thing not mentioned above is that it keeps the bugs off the fruit as it dries in the sun.