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3/29/2008 2:49:06 PM EDT
Just curious... it seems many here are stocking wheat, and I'm wondering why that instead of (say) rice, couscous, or other grains.
3/29/2008 2:57:27 PM EDT
[#1]
Everybody knows how to use wheat. It is also high in protein but people store rice too.
3/29/2008 3:17:13 PM EDT
[#2]

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Just curious... it seems many here are stocking wheat, and I'm wondering why that instead of (say) rice, couscous, or other grains.


Most of my family is celiac, so I avoid stocking any wheat - If I was going to stock wheat, I might as well be stocking D-con!

Wheat is easier to make into things like bread for sure.  
3/29/2008 3:24:26 PM EDT
[#3]
wheat - because of it's varying uses - you can boil it for a hot cereal type dish or grind it to make pasta, bread, etc, or you can eat it raw...  it also lasts for a good long time...  

but don't be fooled - many here stock rice and beans, too, for complete proteins, among other things...
3/29/2008 3:31:15 PM EDT
[#4]
I have plenty of rice but want to put up some wheat. You guys that are buying it, where are you getting it?

I checked the feed stores around here and all they have is wheat blended (has other ingredients and vitamins) stuff for horses. Is there no such thing as regular wheat feed anymore? Co-ops don't even have it
3/29/2008 3:42:47 PM EDT
[#5]

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wheat - because of it's varying uses - you can boil it for a hot cereal type dish or grind it to make pasta, bread, etc, or you can eat it raw...  it also lasts for a good long time...  

but don't be fooled - many here stock rice and beans, too, for complete proteins, among other things...

+1    - wheat is just one part of what we have stored. we also store rice, beans, pasta, oats, etc.  

wipeout, we got our wheat from the lds cannery.
3/29/2008 4:05:16 PM EDT
[#6]
Do you store wheatberries, flour, both...?
3/29/2008 4:13:03 PM EDT
[#7]

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I have plenty of rice but want to put up some wheat. You guys that are buying it, where are you getting it?

I checked the feed stores around here and all they have is wheat blended (has other ingredients and vitamins) stuff for horses. Is there no such thing as regular wheat feed anymore? Co-ops don't even have it


Healthfood stores are a good bet.
3/29/2008 4:19:23 PM EDT
[#8]
Can you make flour out of rice to make bread?  Will yeast make rice bread rise?

I saw a Good Eats show about cooking barley.  He used cooked barley without the hull and made kind of a cereal/oatmeal type dish.

You could also store edible corn for cornbread and tortilla type bread.

My father had a pull-type combine that was set up to sift out whole wheat or cracked wheat flour.  You tied a cloth flour sack to it.  I can also remember going to the roller mill in town to get milled flour.
3/29/2008 4:36:01 PM EDT
[#9]
I just received 50# hard red wheat & 50# hard white wheat from-
honeyvillegrains.com
3/29/2008 4:40:45 PM EDT
[#10]
Go to your local elevator and buy it.  don't get reamed for shipping buying it online.  I bought 300 lbs for 50 bucks in november.
3/29/2008 4:59:33 PM EDT
[#11]
It's mostly rice & beans for me and zero wheat.
Not allergic to it, I just don't eat many wheat products other than bread. Since I believe that the fuel required to bake a loaf isn't the best allocation of energy resources after a crash I don't keep any. The cost of a good grain mill isn't all that attractive either.
3/29/2008 5:29:28 PM EDT
[#12]
Yeah we can spend 1-5K on a rifle but I can't spend 350 bucks on the best grinder on the planet.  How does it take too much energy to cook a loaf of bread?  My wife does it all the time.  30 minutes tops.  Granted we won't have that nice gas or electric stove going when the electric/gas is cut off.  But.....
3/29/2008 5:37:11 PM EDT
[#13]

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Go to your local elevator and buy it.  don't get reamed for shipping buying it online.  I bought 300 lbs for 50 bucks in november.


what did you ask for? I went to the local co-op elevator and asked for wheat seed and they asked if it was for planting or feed. I said feed and they said they wouldn't recommend it for feed since it was treated with some chemical for better growing.

I asked what they had for feed and they said had nothing.
3/29/2008 6:00:57 PM EDT
[#14]
So exactly what model is the "best grinder on the planet" for $350?
3/29/2008 6:07:02 PM EDT
[#15]

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So exactly what model is the "best grinder on the planet" for $350?


I'd guess the reference was to the Country Living Mill. It seems to always get the positive reviews.
3/29/2008 6:45:24 PM EDT
[#16]

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Yeah we can spend 1-5K on a rifle but I can't spend 350 bucks on the best grinder on the planet.  How does it take too much energy to cook a loaf of bread?  My wife does it all the time.  30 minutes tops.  Granted we won't have that nice gas or electric stove going when the electric/gas is cut off.  But.....


I'm not quite sure why you felt the need for such a tetchy response but I never said you shouldn't buy a grain mill, even the best $350 one. If you do purchase a tool then by all means get the best one you can afford.

All I said was wheat wasn't my thing and gave some of the reasons why it was not beneficial for ME. If those reasons don't apply to you or anyone else that's fine with me.

My point on the energy was that if the electricity or gas is on I can more than likely get a loaf of bread at the store. If the utilities are not on then baking bread is not the smartest thing to do under limited or scarce fuel conditions. If oven fuel grows on trees in your area then as always YMMV.
3/29/2008 8:16:05 PM EDT
[#17]

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I just received 50# hard red wheat & 50# hard white wheat from-
honeyvillegrains.com


Wrong URL.


honeyvillegrain.com/
3/29/2008 8:31:36 PM EDT
[#18]

Quoted:
Do you store wheatberries, flour, both...?

we store wheat and every month or two, my wife will grind it.
3/29/2008 8:53:07 PM EDT
[#19]
I would like some advise on this too...  At the moment we do not store wheat instead we have about 50-pounds of rice in sealed plastic pails but for a bulk grain that is really all we have..

I found this just now that has some good advise:

extension.usu.edu/files/foodpubs/fn371.pdf

I need to put more rice as well as other stuff away...  So darned cheap yet could be so important...
3/30/2008 8:44:20 AM EDT
[#20]
Sorry did not mean to offend any one.  Just seems strange to me that it would take more energy to bake a loaf of bread as opposed to cooking some pintos for a few hours.  Don't ask for seed, you want to ask for red wheat.  Hard red winter wheat is what I got, you can also ask for spring red wheat.  It could very well be that they are out of wheat though.  Our harvest of Winter Red Wheat will start coming in in late June or Early July here is southern Michigan.  so you might have to wait for Summer to get some, of course the cost could have tripled by then.  The best grinder by most people's opinion is the country living grinder Country Living Mill Grinder with power bar and flour bin 385  I hope to get one with the "stimulus" money in early may
I have read that one called the diamant is better, but it doesn't have sealed bearings like the CLMG and also cost twice as much.  
3/30/2008 10:03:06 AM EDT
[#21]
How much wheat should I store per person per month or year?   TIA
3/30/2008 10:25:34 AM EDT
[#22]
I have read that LDS says 25 lbs for a person per week.  but that is a bunch of wheat.  I have also read that an average female will consume like 800 lbs of "GRAIN" per year.  when you look at the stuff in our food, there is a lot of grain in there.  Cereal pancakes, noodles, pasta, breads, chips, tortillas, cookies, etc, etc, etc.
3/30/2008 11:32:33 AM EDT
[#23]
White rice is pretty worthless as far as nutrition, except for B1/B3/iron added during processing, and brown rice doesn't store as well.  So most people store beans and grains.  Rice is basically filler
3/30/2008 12:50:35 PM EDT
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How much wheat should I store per person per month or year?   TIA


here is one good calculator, but the best advice is to look at your daily needs and go from there.  a 250 pound man is going to have different requirements than a 110 pound woman...  what I did for my family is create a spreadsheet with each person's weight determining their daily caloric need, and took it out from there - the spreadsheet helped me figure the breakdown of protein/carb/fat we'd need to store, too...  you don't want to end up with a bunch of carbs with no fat/protein...

and here are some recipes for using wheat...
3/30/2008 12:50:52 PM EDT
[#25]
hard red winter wheat stores well, is high in protien [ over 12%] and is high in gluten,
so it sticks together for bread and tortillas,and you can sprout it for even more vitamins
/ greens in winter, it is also good to have variety, we also feed it to chickens.
3/30/2008 1:57:48 PM EDT
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I have read that LDS says 25 lbs for a person per week.  


I checked with the LDS calculator.  It said 25 lbs of wheat per month.
3/30/2008 2:21:59 PM EDT
[#27]
Thank you, I'll check out the LDS site.   Never had heard of it before until this week.  haveagoodone.
3/30/2008 2:29:13 PM EDT
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Thank you, I'll check out the LDS site.   Never had heard of it before until this week.  haveagoodone.


donne3 linked the lds food storage site.  here's his post w/ link (1st link)


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How much wheat should I store per person per month or year?   TIA


here is one good calculator, but the best advice is to look at your daily needs and go from there.  a 250 pound man is going to have different requirements than a 110 pound woman...  what I did for my family is create a spreadsheet with each person's weight determining their daily caloric need, and took it out from there - the spreadsheet helped me figure the breakdown of protein/carb/fat we'd need to store, too...  you don't want to end up with a bunch of carbs with no fat/protein...

and here are some recipes for using wheat...
3/30/2008 2:39:17 PM EDT
[#29]

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Thank you, I'll check out the LDS site.   Never had heard of it before until this week.  haveagoodone.


donne3 linked the lds food storage site.  here's his post w/ link (1st link)

I'm pretty sure that Donne3 is a woman.
3/30/2008 3:44:35 PM EDT
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I'm pretty sure that Donne3 is a woman.


yep.  thanks for catching that.      the LDS site has a ton of good information, too, not just the food calculator...  
3/30/2008 4:38:57 PM EDT
[#31]
doh. sorry about that donne.  i wondered if i had guessed correctly after i posted.  
3/30/2008 5:13:08 PM EDT
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doh. sorry about that donne.  i wondered if i had guessed correctly after i posted.  


LOL - no worries.  
3/30/2008 5:21:19 PM EDT
[#33]
tag!
3/30/2008 5:39:47 PM EDT
[#34]
If you have farms ANYWHERE near by go talk to the farmer. Offer him what seems like a ridiculous amount of money for some crops right off the combine. Say, $15 a bushel. For wheat theres roughly 50 pounds per bushle, so that comes to 15$ for 50 pounds.

Most farmers would trip over their dick to sell you wheat at $15 a bushel. Hell they may even pack it for you. I know I would.