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3/16/2008 1:58:51 PM EDT
After looking into this a bit, it seems that a few bump keys would be well worth their weight on a keychain or in a go bag for SHTF.

I found this video on YouTube helpful.  

www.youtube.com/watch?v=pwTVBWCijEQ

I had an extra key made and modified it per the video.  I also removed a little material from the tip and shoulders of the key to allow it to move slightly more forward in the lock.  This is what I ended up with.




The problem is I've only been able to make it work one time, but it did work(ON MY DOOR).  Anyone have experience with these?
3/16/2008 2:01:38 PM EDT
[#1]
OST
3/16/2008 2:02:33 PM EDT
[#2]
Why what you going to use it for?
3/16/2008 2:09:11 PM EDT
[#3]
I have no experience with bump keys, but from what I've read they are quite effective.  I have found that -- with practice -- the most common locks are very easy to compromise with improvised tools.

TOOOL, The Open Organization of Lockpickers holds competitions and can be a good source of info, as is the "MIT Guide to Lock Picking" which is readily available via Google.

Something to keep in mind during a SHTF/TEOTWAWKI situation: brute force usually opens doors quicker than lock picking.  Oh, and one last thing: always make sure the lock is actually locked first: you don't want to go to all the trouble of testing pins and whatnot just to lock the door you're trying to get through :-)

-WhyTanFox
3/16/2008 2:11:37 PM EDT
[#4]

Quoted:
Why what you going to use it for?


Hopefully nothing.
3/16/2008 2:12:56 PM EDT
[#5]
tag
3/16/2008 2:14:49 PM EDT
[#6]
There are very few locks that a bump key will not work on.

In a SHTF situation, you may need to gain entry into locked doors.  Be advised, most stores use locks that are resistant to bump keys.
3/16/2008 2:16:10 PM EDT
[#7]

Quoted:
I have no experience with bump keys, but from what I've read they are quite effective.  I have found that -- with practice -- the most common locks are very easy to compromise with improvised tools.

TOOOL, The Open Organization of Lockpickers holds competitions and can be a good source of info, as is the "MIT Guide to Lock Picking" which is readily available via Google.

Something to keep in mind during a SHTF/TEOTWAWKI situation: brute force usually opens doors quicker than lock picking.  Oh, and one last thing: always make sure the lock is actually locked first: you don't want to go to all the trouble of testing pins and whatnot just to lock the door you're trying to get through :-)

-WhyTanFox


Good info, I feel lock picking is a good skill to have.  I know if the SHTF you may be able to force entry but lockpicking gives you the advantage of making a lot less noise and using much less energy if it's a good door and frame.
3/16/2008 2:17:43 PM EDT
[#8]

Quoted:
There are very few locks that a bump key will not work on.

In a SHTF situation, you may need to gain entry into locked doors.  Be advised, most stores use locks that are resistant to bump keys.


Yeah, Medeco or Mul-T-Lock would require forced entry.
3/16/2008 2:27:28 PM EDT
[#9]

Quoted:
After looking into this a bit, it seems that a few bump keys would be well worth their weight on a keychain or in a go bag for SHTF.

I found this video on YouTube helpful.  

www.youtube.com/watch?v=pwTVBWCijEQ

I had an extra key made and modified it per the video.  I also removed a little material from the tip and shoulders of the key to allow it to move slightly more forward in the lock.  This is what I ended up with.


i40.photobucket.com/albums/e218/expert244/IMG_0295.jpg

The problem is I've only been able to make it work one time, but it did work(ON MY DOOR).  Anyone have experience with these?


Yes - I have a set that is supposed to open 80% of the doors in North America.  Interesting, but if the SHTF - I think I would just knock out a window to save someone or what have you.

Some as mentioned above are bump resistant; however, most are not.

Fun to play with if you have time.
3/16/2008 2:39:43 PM EDT
[#10]

Quoted:

Quoted:
After looking into this a bit, it seems that a few bump keys would be well worth their weight on a keychain or in a go bag for SHTF.

I found this video on YouTube helpful.  

www.youtube.com/watch?v=pwTVBWCijEQ

I had an extra key made and modified it per the video.  I also removed a little material from the tip and shoulders of the key to allow it to move slightly more forward in the lock.  This is what I ended up with.


i40.photobucket.com/albums/e218/expert244/IMG_0295.jpg

The problem is I've only been able to make it work one time, but it did work(ON MY DOOR).  Anyone have experience with these?


Yes - I have a set that is supposed to open 80% of the doors in North America.  Interesting, but if the SHTF - I think I would just knock out a window to save someone or what have you.

Some as mentioned above are bump resistant; however, most are not.

Fun to play with if you have time.


Did you make it or buy it?  How well do they work, did it require a lot of practice etc?
3/16/2008 3:01:15 PM EDT
[#11]

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Quoted:

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After looking into this a bit, it seems that a few bump keys would be well worth their weight on a keychain or in a go bag for SHTF.

I found this video on YouTube helpful.  

www.youtube.com/watch?v=pwTVBWCijEQ

I had an extra key made and modified it per the video.  I also removed a little material from the tip and shoulders of the key to allow it to move slightly more forward in the lock.  This is what I ended up with.


i40.photobucket.com/albums/e218/expert244/IMG_0295.jpg

The problem is I've only been able to make it work one time, but it did work(ON MY DOOR).  Anyone have experience with these?


Yes - I have a set that is supposed to open 80% of the doors in North America.  Interesting, but if the SHTF - I think I would just knock out a window to save someone or what have you.

Some as mentioned above are bump resistant; however, most are not.

Fun to play with if you have time.


Did you make it or buy it?  How well do they work, did it require a lot of practice etc?


Bought a set of 11 for like $33 - poorly made and need modification.  The hard thing to find is the "tomahawk" to do the striking.  Never really had a lot of time to practice either.

Just file all notches to the #9 position, take a touch off the shoulder and tip.  Also a silicone bead around the shoulder will help bumping.

Like anything - it takes time to get the key close (it doesn't need to be perfect) and also time to practice stricking the key and turning it at the same time.  It can be done pretty easily and while it was big news a while back,like anything else - people forget and still have crappy locks.
3/16/2008 3:03:42 PM EDT
[#12]
Bump keys work on about 90% of locks as of a few years ago. Lots of lock manufacturers have since created locks that they claim are "bump-proof." I cannot comment on the effectiveness of these locks, but I doubt they're very widespread.
3/16/2008 3:10:17 PM EDT
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I wonder if having these in your possession would be considered to be "burglary tools" in some jurisdictions.
3/16/2008 3:11:59 PM EDT
[#14]
You do realize in most jurisdictions carrying that would be construed as intent to break & enter, right?
3/16/2008 3:21:39 PM EDT
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