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Link Posted: 12/1/2014 8:18:39 PM EDT
Thanks!  I plan on submitting for the SPR and .22 with optic divisions in a few weeks or shortly after Christmas depending on how the holidays play out.
Link Posted: 12/1/2014 8:22:48 PM EDT
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No, it is not cool.
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Originally Posted By FALARAK:
Originally Posted By SpeyRod:
Question:

I shot 5 today and have everything for the claim. Average .875 moa. The first group blew it out pretty good. I would like to reshoot a slightly modified load. If I submit an .875 today and shoot a better one this weekend will I be able to replace my entry with the better target?

1st submission:

SPR, Spey Rod, LaRue Predatobr 16" 5.56, Burris signature select 3-12, Handloaded 77gr SMK over Varget, Groups: 1.583, 1.010, 1.081, 1.148, .879 = Average 1.1402 - .224 = .9161/1.047=.8751

Range set up:
Rear bag and 4x6
<a href="http://smg.photobucket.com/user/Psycodog/media/Setup_zpsb30cf783.jpg.html" target="_blank">http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v606/Psycodog/Setup_zpsb30cf783.jpg</a>

Target on 100 yd board:
<a href="http://smg.photobucket.com/user/Psycodog/media/target_zpse1d65a64.jpg.html" target="_blank">http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v606/Psycodog/target_zpse1d65a64.jpg</a>

<a href="http://smg.photobucket.com/user/Psycodog/media/1moa_zpseb401e18.jpeg.html" target="_blank">http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v606/Psycodog/1moa_zpseb401e18.jpeg</a>

<a href="http://smg.photobucket.com/user/Psycodog/media/872_zpsc7dcdcd3.jpg.html" target="_blank">http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v606/Psycodog/872_zpsc7dcdcd3.jpg</a>



If we are bagging on bags - then this bag which holds the rifle in a V is not cool, to my understanding.

http://s10.postimg.org/gvzvo852x/screenshot_20.png



No, it is not cool.


No worries. I'll find a squeeze bag and reshoot.
Link Posted: 12/1/2014 8:38:16 PM EDT
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Good shooting! You are the first person I have removed from the Wall of Claim since I took over the thread on 8/10/2013.


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Originally Posted By cms81586:
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Hey akethan....is the drop pouch I used as a rear bag acceptable or do you need me to reshoot?



I can't really tell how big it is from the pic but since it's not a rest or bag I'll go ahead and let it go. Can you post in the proper format?




Now updated with missing info at the bottom of the post added.


Good shooting! You are the first person I have removed from the Wall of Claim since I took over the thread on 8/10/2013.




Wrong rifle.... That Sako isn't a 16" gas gun.

Good shooting though.
Link Posted: 12/1/2014 9:26:07 PM EDT
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Wrong rifle.... That Sako isn't a 16" gas gun.

Good shooting though.
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Originally Posted By akethan:
Originally Posted By cms81586:
Hey akethan....is the drop pouch I used as a rear bag acceptable or do you need me to reshoot?



I can't really tell how big it is from the pic but since it's not a rest or bag I'll go ahead and let it go. Can you post in the proper format?




Now updated with missing info at the bottom of the post added.


Good shooting! You are the first person I have removed from the Wall of Claim since I took over the thread on 8/10/2013.




Wrong rifle.... That Sako isn't a 16" gas gun.

Good shooting though.



Patience my friend. I already stated I'll have more submissions after the holidays. The KAC shoots just as good at 100 yds so it wouldn't really prove much. I'll still post the 100yd submission but the plan is to also post some groups shot past 600 at various ranges to silence the non believers in the other thread...
Link Posted: 12/2/2014 8:37:31 AM EDT
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Originally Posted By cms81586:
TRG-22 in .308win with a US Optics SN-3 3.7-17x44 with GAP reticle.
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Nice Shooting! You obviously have a very good skill set, and that load is tuned 110% for that rifle.

Keep it up!
M Richardson
Link Posted: 12/5/2014 5:17:53 PM EDT
1. Face454 26" 6.5 Grendel Bartlien Barreled Precision Firearms Upper Nightforce 8-32x56, 123gr Hornady AMAX: 1.018, .692, 1.248, 1.065, .602 AVG: .925", .883 MOA
Same rear bag as before.  

Fuck my fliers in the face.

6.5 by asp_762, on Flickr


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6.5 by asp_762, on Flickr

6.5 by asp_762, on Flickr
Link Posted: 12/5/2014 5:30:31 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By Face454:
1. Face454 26" 6.5 Grendel Bartlien Barreled Precision Firearms Upper Nightforce 8-32x56, 123gr Hornady AMAX: 1.018, .692, 1.248, 1.065, .602 AVG: .925", .883 MOA
Same rear bag as before.  

Fuck my fliers in the face.

<a href="https://flic.kr/p/q2ij93" target="_blank">https://farm9.staticflickr.com/8630/15767256850_be24e0c7b6_c.jpg</a>6.5 by asp_762, on Flickr


<a href="https://flic.kr/p/qiMWS3" target="_blank">https://farm9.staticflickr.com/8669/15953907462_c7f3d8cb74_c.jpg</a>Untitled by asp_762, on Flickr

<a href="https://flic.kr/p/q2iiVh" target="_blank">https://farm8.staticflickr.com/7470/15767256110_429f694873_c.jpg</a>6.5 by asp_762, on Flickr

<a href="https://flic.kr/p/qgz1vh" target="_blank">https://farm8.staticflickr.com/7555/15928750266_b9298e982f_c.jpg</a>6.5 by asp_762, on Flickr
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So you want me to knock you down from 11th to 14th?
Link Posted: 12/5/2014 5:50:01 PM EDT
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So you want me to knock you down from 11th to 14th?
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1. Face454 26" 6.5 Grendel Bartlien Barreled Precision Firearms Upper Nightforce 8-32x56, 123gr Hornady AMAX: 1.018, .692, 1.248, 1.065, .602 AVG: .925", .883 MOA
Same rear bag as before.  

Fuck my fliers in the face.

<a href="https://flic.kr/p/q2ij93" target="_blank">https://farm9.staticflickr.com/8630/15767256850_be24e0c7b6_c.jpg</a>6.5 by asp_762, on Flickr


<a href="https://flic.kr/p/qiMWS3" target="_blank">https://farm9.staticflickr.com/8669/15953907462_c7f3d8cb74_c.jpg</a>Untitled by asp_762, on Flickr

<a href="https://flic.kr/p/q2iiVh" target="_blank">https://farm8.staticflickr.com/7470/15767256110_429f694873_c.jpg</a>6.5 by asp_762, on Flickr

<a href="https://flic.kr/p/qgz1vh" target="_blank">https://farm8.staticflickr.com/7555/15928750266_b9298e982f_c.jpg</a>6.5 by asp_762, on Flickr



So you want me to knock you down from 11th to 14th?


Isn't he using a different gun this time?  I thought we could have other entries with different guns.
Link Posted: 12/5/2014 5:55:06 PM EDT
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Isn't he using a different gun this time?  I thought we could have other entries with different guns.
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Originally Posted By akethan:
Originally Posted By Face454:
1. Face454 26" 6.5 Grendel Bartlien Barreled Precision Firearms Upper Nightforce 8-32x56, 123gr Hornady AMAX: 1.018, .692, 1.248, 1.065, .602 AVG: .925", .883 MOA
Same rear bag as before.  

Fuck my fliers in the face.

<a href="https://flic.kr/p/q2ij93" target="_blank">https://farm9.staticflickr.com/8630/15767256850_be24e0c7b6_c.jpg</a>6.5 by asp_762, on Flickr


<a href="https://flic.kr/p/qiMWS3" target="_blank">https://farm9.staticflickr.com/8669/15953907462_c7f3d8cb74_c.jpg</a>Untitled by asp_762, on Flickr

<a href="https://flic.kr/p/q2iiVh" target="_blank">https://farm8.staticflickr.com/7470/15767256110_429f694873_c.jpg</a>6.5 by asp_762, on Flickr

<a href="https://flic.kr/p/qgz1vh" target="_blank">https://farm8.staticflickr.com/7555/15928750266_b9298e982f_c.jpg</a>6.5 by asp_762, on Flickr



So you want me to knock you down from 11th to 14th?


Isn't he using a different gun this time?  I thought we could have other entries with different guns.






Yeah good call. I couldn't see shit.
Link Posted: 12/8/2014 7:59:41 PM EDT
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Link Posted: 12/8/2014 8:01:25 PM EDT
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Whoa, out of curiosity, I asked someone to shoot me the 1 MOA Challenge with the 14.5" tOBR they recieved a couple weeks ago.

Pic of target coming.



ML

ETA - It's DQ'd as he shot it with a Bull'sBag front and rabbit-eared leather rear, but holy cow.

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Post pics anyway
Link Posted: 12/8/2014 8:25:51 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By LaRue_Tactical:
Whoa, out of curiosity, I asked someone to shoot me the 1 MOA Challenge with the 14.5" tOBR they recieved a couple weeks ago.

Pic of target coming.



ML

ETA - It's DQ'd as he shot it with a Bull'sBag front and rabbit-eared leather rear, but holy cow.


Post pics anyway


Definitely post it!
Link Posted: 12/8/2014 9:44:23 PM EDT
So I have been called out to verify my claim of a Rainier match grade barrel  shooting easily 1 MOA. with hand loads...... first off ....I am not an arm chair commando making wild claims....  second Rainier guarantees 1 MOA on this barrel, and third I was not making any claims on myself, but my rifle.  someone was asking about barrels and I gave my experience. I will probably recommend Rainier again because I am fully impressed with the results. Anyway I am happy with my rifle and know what it can do and that is all that counts at the end of the day for me... perhaps if I have some time in the near future I will take some target time and post the results for you 13ers... haha.. just kidding.
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So I have been called out to verify my claim of a Rainier match grade barrel  shooting easily 1 MOA. with hand loads...... first off ....I am not an arm chair commando making wild claims....  second Rainier guarantees 1 MOA on this barrel, and third I was not making any claims on myself, but my rifle.  someone was asking about barrels and I gave my experience. I will probably recommend Rainier again because I am fully impressed with the results. Anyway I am happy with my rifle and know what it can do and that is all that counts at the end of the day for me... perhaps if I have some time in the near future I will take some target time and post the results for you 13ers... haha.. just kidding.
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if you are going to cosign their guarantee then you need to shoot to back it up
Link Posted: 12/8/2014 10:24:06 PM EDT
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So I have been called out to verify my claim of a Rainier match grade barrel  shooting easily 1 MOA. with hand loads...... first off ....I am not an arm chair commando making wild claims....  second Rainier guarantees 1 MOA on this barrel, and third I was not making any claims on myself, but my rifle.  someone was asking about barrels and I gave my experience. I will probably recommend Rainier again because I am fully impressed with the results. Anyway I am happy with my rifle and know what it can do and that is all that counts at the end of the day for me... perhaps if I have some time in the near future I will take some target time and post the results for you 13ers... haha.. just kidding.
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There are plenty of 13ers that have posted up. This is not GD pal so post up or stay on the wall.
Link Posted: 12/11/2014 9:38:56 PM EDT
People of Arfcom, I'm going to attempt the 1 MOA challenge, hopefully tomorrow.  I was going to use this rear bag, but I wanted to make sure if it was acceptable first.



What say you?  Is this legal to use with the challenge?  I added the M1 clip for scale, if it helps.
Link Posted: 12/11/2014 9:41:02 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By Wubbman:
People of Arfcom, I'm going to attempt the 1 MOA challenge, hopefully tomorrow.  I was going to use this rear bag, but I wanted to make sure if it was acceptable first.

http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/1280x1024q90/661/iLuphU.jpg

What say you?  Is this legal to use with the challenge?  I added the M1 clip for scale, if it helps.
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Pretty sure the answer is a big No on that bag.
Link Posted: 12/11/2014 9:52:42 PM EDT
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Pretty sure the answer is a big No on that bag.
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Originally Posted By Wubbman:
People of Arfcom, I'm going to attempt the 1 MOA challenge, hopefully tomorrow.  I was going to use this rear bag, but I wanted to make sure if it was acceptable first.

http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/1280x1024q90/661/iLuphU.jpg

What say you?  Is this legal to use with the challenge?  I added the M1 clip for scale, if it helps.



Pretty sure the answer is a big No on that bag.

Is any bag acceptable?
When I did it with my SPR I thought the rules were NO rear support.
that's how I shot it.
Need to shoot my 260 challenge target, maybe this weekend.
Link Posted: 12/11/2014 10:42:13 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By Wubbman:
People of Arfcom, I'm going to attempt the 1 MOA challenge, hopefully tomorrow.  I was going to use this rear bag, but I wanted to make sure if it was acceptable first.

http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/1280x1024q90/661/iLuphU.jpg

What say you?  Is this legal to use with the challenge?  I added the M1 clip for scale, if it helps.
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Nope
Link Posted: 12/11/2014 10:46:13 PM EDT
This is a challenge but don't be afraid to try it out and post, every possible rifle style has been listed with a category and a distance. It's all in good fun and to be honest about your abilities.

With that in mind here are the rules.

1. ONE sheet of paper, 8.5”x11” preferred and it MUST HAVE ALL 5 targets.

Meaning 1 sheet of paper with FIVE targets. NO INDIVIDUAL TARGETS. THEY WILL NOT COUNT.


2. On that 1 sheet of paper with 5 targets you shoot 5 groups of 5 shots each. (In one day)


3. Each group is measured OUTSIDE GREASE RING TO OUTSIDE GREASE RING with calipers (preferred) or tape rule in inches. Then subtract the diameter of one bullet IE if your shooting a .223 and your 5 shot group measures 1.13" you will subtract 0.224" to get a group of 0.906". If you are shooting a .22lr you will subtract 0.223", for a 308 you will subtract 0.308" (Remember- the more precise your measurement the better)

Some common measurements:
.172" - .17 HMR
.223" - .22 Short, Long, Long Rifle
.224" - .223 Remington, .22 WMR, .22 Hornet
.243" - .243 Winchester
.284" - 7mm-08 Remington, 7mm Mag
.308" - .308 Winchester, .30-06, .300 Mag
.311" - 7.62x39 Soviet, .303 British
.338" - .338 Mag


4. NO MECHANICAL REST/SLED, NO VICE OR SIMILAR DEVICE THAT SUPPORTS THE ENITRE RIFLE, NO SHOOTING JACKETS, NO STRAPPING THE GUN INTO ANYTHING, NO LARGE REAR SANDBAG ** OR REST. SHOOTER MUST HAVE POSITIVE CONTROL OF RIFLE.

THE POINT IS TO SEE HOW GOOD YOU SHOOT, NOT HOW WELL YOU CAN MOUNT IT IN A MACHINE.


5. OK TO USE sandbag, rest, ruck, bipod, rock with a hat, sling etc. on forearm of the rifle.

**Will be OK to use a small rear sandbag (ie: sand sock or squeeze bag) or bean bag that must require constant hand pressure to maintain hold on target.

IE. Can NOT sandbag gun in place. Shooter must maintain positive control of rifle. No formed or V-shaped rests/bags

Some approved bags


Triad Red Tac

Triad Wedgie

CrossTac Squeeze bag

Accuracy First shooting bag







6. Shooting position is up to you, sitting, standing, prone.


7. Posting:

1st picture of target set at the range you are shooting. If you are shooting more than one rifle at the same range using the same pic is okay.

2nd picture with 5 groups of 5 shots each, next to them write down group size.

3rd picture with calipers (or tape rule) left in place over BEST group.

4th picture of rifle and shooting setup (ie. Sandbag, prone and so on). Post all4 pics and also type in the post your 5 group sizes and what the average is. IE. .99”, 1.5”, 1.5”, 1.5”, 1.5” add them up, equals 6.99” and divide by five. So 6.99/5 = 1.398”

You can use the MOA formula, either way I will check the math and post the MOA on the result list.

For those of you who would like to use ontarget,   http://ontargetshooting.com/

Also type up specs of your rifle and ammo IE. Rem 700 with 168gr Federal SMK or Colt AR15 18" with Wolf 55gr FMJ or AK with 125gr Hand Loads PLEASE INCLUDE AMMO USED

*** Please include result at the end of your post in the final format:

Division you wish to be listed under with range, User_Name: Rifle Manufacturer and caliber - notable customizations- Scope- Ammo. Groups: 1"/2"/3"/4"/5" = avg. 3" = .287 MOA



If you do not post in this format or leave anything out your post will not be included.


8. In each division you can only have your name up once per gun. Meaning that if you shoot the Iron Sight 22lr with your 10/22 and average a 1.65” group and lets say place 4th. If you use that same gun and do worse, even if you would place better then someone else it will not count for your group. Best group counts.

Now if you then shoot Iron Sight 22lr with your M&P 15-22 and shoot better, say 1.25” average groups and place 2nd. Both that score and the 10/22 score will remain. Different guns will be allowed for different group rankings within a division. Best group counts.

This also goes for the 1 MOA list. Meaning only your best MOA will be ranked on the 1 MOA list BUT if you also shoot 1 MOA or less with a different rifle, that will also count and your name will be added to the list for each different rifle you shoot 1 MOA or less with.

9. Remember, this is NOT a Bullseye challenge, it's a Groups challenge.

10. Any and all ammo is fine I don't care if you use Factory loads or your super secret Hand Load that Moses gave you.

11. Ties in average will go to the shooter with the smallest group.
Link Posted: 12/11/2014 11:19:23 PM EDT
Fair enough!  I'm glad I asked before I used it tomorrow.  Thanks.
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Link Posted: 12/12/2014 12:46:27 PM EDT
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It's, well, demoralizing, so I posted over in our Industry forum.
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Originally Posted By InfiniteGrim:
Originally Posted By LaRue_Tactical:
Whoa, out of curiosity, I asked someone to shoot me the 1 MOA Challenge with the 14.5" tOBR they recieved a couple weeks ago.

Pic of target coming.



ML

ETA - It's DQ'd as he shot it with a Bull'sBag front and rabbit-eared leather rear, but holy cow.


Post pics anyway


Definitely post it!


It's, well, demoralizing, so I posted over in our Industry forum.


Very impressive!  Do you also use an indoor range when you shoot your proof groups?
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Wow.
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Wow.
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Wow.



Cannot be entered into the contest because of the rear bag, but I would love to see it reshot within the rules!
Link Posted: 12/12/2014 5:12:04 PM EDT
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Cannot be entered into the contest because of the rear bag, but I would love to see it reshot within the rules!
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Wow.



Cannot be entered into the contest because of the rear bag, but I would love to see it reshot within the rules!


It is legal for open class though correct?  It would be first place in the open division.
Link Posted: 12/12/2014 5:18:55 PM EDT
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Yeah, it would be in first place across the board @ .2202 moa .... it actually might be smaller considering those might be inch measurements and this was at 100 meters
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It is legal for open class though correct?  It would be first place in the open division.
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Originally Posted By InfiniteGrim:
Originally Posted By Face454:


Wow.



Cannot be entered into the contest because of the rear bag, but I would love to see it reshot within the rules!


It is legal for open class though correct?  It would be first place in the open division.



Not really.
Link Posted: 12/12/2014 5:59:12 PM EDT
[Last Edit: 12/12/2014 6:00:55 PM EDT by SpeyRod]
OK, I reshot using the Triad Red Tac squeeze bag. Unfortunately, when I got to the range I only had 24 rounds. But to stay within the guide lines I figured I was gtg to run home and load 1 round to finish the groups. Of course that resulted in the one flier at the bottom left group.

Oh well, here we go:

SpeyRod, SPR, 16" LaRue Tobr, Burris Signature Select 3-12, 77 SMK over 23.7 Varget, Groups: .848, .941, .941, .965, 1.513=1.0416-.224=.8176/1.047=.781 moa

The Target:


The Setup:


I think I will get out and try to shoot this again, with 25 rounds at one time, after the new year.

Any issues with this submission?
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Originally Posted By SpeyRod:
OK, I reshot using the Triad Red Tac squeeze bag. Unfortunately, when I got to the range I only had 24 rounds. But to stay within the guide lines I figured I was gtg to run home and load 1 round to finish the groups. Of course that resulted in the one flier at the bottom left group.

Oh well, here we go:

SpeyRod, SPR, 16" LaRue Tobr, Burris Signature Select 3-12, 77 SMK over 23.7 Varget, Groups: .848, .941, .941, .965, 1.513=1.0416-.224=.8176/1.047=.781 moa

The Target:
<a href="http://smg.photobucket.com/user/Psycodog/media/1m0aTobr_zps1832d39c.jpg.html" target="_blank">http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v606/Psycodog/1m0aTobr_zps1832d39c.jpg</a>

The Setup:
<a href="http://smg.photobucket.com/user/Psycodog/media/tobrsetup_zps55cc2c31.jpg.html" target="_blank">http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v606/Psycodog/tobrsetup_zps55cc2c31.jpg</a>

I think I will get out and try to shoot this again, with 25 rounds at one time, after the new year.

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What's the bottom left group size?
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What's the bottom left group size?
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1.513
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1.513
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What's the bottom left group size?

1.513


Looked like 6153. The 1 and . ran together lol.
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Looked like 6153. The 1 and . ran together lol.
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What's the bottom left group size?

1.513


Looked like 6153. The 1 and . ran together lol.


Fortunately I shoot better than I write! Yes it was 1.513.
Link Posted: 12/13/2014 5:17:38 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By blk00ss:


Looked like 6153. The 1 and . ran together lol.
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Originally Posted By RyJones:
Originally Posted By blk00ss:
What's the bottom left group size?

1.513


Looked like 6153. The 1 and . ran together lol.

yeah, I had to open the full size version. Looks like a drop of water or sweat or something
Link Posted: 12/14/2014 6:10:27 PM EDT
I've been raving about Savage's out of the box accuracy for a while now and it's about time I back it up.

Savage 11 Hog Hunter, .223 Rem in a Choate Tactical Stock, Primary Arms 4-14x44 FFP Mil/Mil Scope, Burris Signature Zee Rings and Burris XTM 2 pc Base. Entire setup is sub $900.

Ammo is my own hand loads, 69gr SMK over 25.2gr IMR4320, Lapua Brass, CCI BR4 Primers. I seat about 0.010" away from the lands, which makes for a long cartridge at 2.385" COAL, too long to feed reliably from the mag in fact.

Range Photo
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5x 5 Shot Groups


Best Group


Photo of Gun and Setup


Rear sock is literally a pair of tube socks balled up.

Bolt Division at 100 yards

reshp1: Savage 11 Hog Hunter .223 - Primary Arms 4-14x44 FFP - Hand loads: Groups - 0.760"/0.545"/0.712"/0.567"/0.674" = 0.622 MOA
Link Posted: 12/14/2014 7:03:26 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By reshp1:
I've been raving about Savage's out of the box accuracy for a while now and it's about time I back it up.

Savage 11 Hog Hunter, .223 Rem in a Choate Tactical Stock, Primary Arms 4-14x44 FFP Mil/Mil Scope, Burris Signature Zee Rings and Burris XTM 2 pc Base. Entire setup is sub $900.

Ammo is my own hand loads, 69gr SMK over 25.2gr IMR4320, Lapua Brass, CCI BR4 Primers. I seat about 0.010" away from the lands, which makes for a long cartridge at 2.385" COAL, too long to feed reliably from the mag in fact.

Range Photo
http://i.imgur.com/tL4sNXe.jpg:

5x 5 Shot Groups
http://i.imgur.com/tXMmpDd.jpg

Best Group
http://i.imgur.com/niNj0HI.jpg

Photo of Gun and Setup
http://i.imgur.com/buDL45q.jpg

Rear sock is literally a pair of tube socks balled up.

Bolt Division at 100 yards

reshp1: Savage 11 Hog Hunter .223 - Primary Arms 4-14x44 FFP - Hand loads: Groups - 0.760"/0.545"/0.712"/0.567"/0.674" = 0.622 MOA
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I think the front sand bag is a no go?
Link Posted: 12/14/2014 7:35:22 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By blk00ss:


I think the front sand bag is a no go?
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Anything goes on the front as far as I know:

"5. OK TO USE sandbag, rest, ruck, bipod, rock with a hat, sling etc. on forearm of the rifle."
Link Posted: 12/14/2014 8:44:41 PM EDT
akethan, just want to give credit where credit is due! best thread on arfcom sir!
Link Posted: 12/14/2014 10:51:10 PM EDT
[Last Edit: 12/14/2014 11:16:25 PM EDT by AR-180]
I thought I was on here, but my entry disappeared.  So, here goes again.  The group sizes are clearly visible in the pictures.  The Savage is bolt division.  The AR would be SPR division.  

I shot two rifles today.  The first was a Savage in .223.  This is the range and rifle set up.  


Here is my group with caliper.


Bolt Division at 100 yards, AR-180: Savage .223, BSA Scope, 1.526" / 1.211" / 0.894" / 0.734" / 0.642" = 4.997" / 5 = 0.9994"

It just snuck under the limit at .9994".

The second rifle was an AR-15 I assembled.  


Here is the group and caliper.


SPR Division at 100 yards, AR-180: Stag Lower with a Varmint parts kit, Bushnell Scope, 0.618" / 0.994" / 0.560" / 1.143" / 1.116" = 4.431" / 5 = 0.8862"

This one was a little better at .8862".  

The Savage has a BSA 14x FFP scope.  The AR has a Bushnell HDMR 21x FFP with the Horus reticle.  The ammunition is 77gr Nosler reloads with XBR.  I used a Harris bipod on both with a MidwayUSA flat squeeze bag at the rear.  

I tried to fit as much into each picture as possible to save uploads.
Link Posted: 12/19/2014 10:23:28 PM EDT
Well I didn't quite make it,  Had a few really good ones,  but on the average was about 1/4 over.  (50 yards) Will keep practicing.  

Target one Five shot average was .697  , (.345, .653, .927, .972, .592)

Target two was .461 (this target only 20 rounds left,  so kept at it, but 5 rounds short. { .252, .652, .722, .262, .417}  The missing fifth shot for the smaller groups.  

So a few pictures,  









77 SMK handloads,  and 12 degrees in the mountains,  Nice day to be out.  

Ill keep after it, and get the groups tighter.    

Link Posted: 12/22/2014 4:46:21 AM EDT
[Last Edit: 12/22/2014 4:52:05 AM EDT by taco2000]
Bolt Division with magnified optics, taco2000, SSG3000 - Precision Armament muzzle break - Ammo168gr SMK+ Varget 44.5gr. Groups: 0.41"/0.54"/0.84"/0.42"/0,43" = avg. 53" = .51 MOA




Link Posted: 12/22/2014 5:26:43 AM EDT
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Originally Posted By tetonrvr:
Well I didn't quite make it,  Had a few really good ones,  but on the average was about 1/4 over.  (50 yards) Will keep practicing.  

Target one Five shot average was .697  , (.345, .653, .927, .972, .592)

Target two was .461 (this target only 20 rounds left,  so kept at it, but 5 rounds short. { .252, .652, .722, .262, .417}  The missing fifth shot for the smaller groups.  

So a few pictures,  

http://i132.photobucket.com/albums/q18/bigskytrapper/IMG_1419_zps67d8aa06.jpg

http://i132.photobucket.com/albums/q18/bigskytrapper/IMG_1424_zps30acbd58.jpg

http://i132.photobucket.com/albums/q18/bigskytrapper/IMG_1423_zps8e42fec7.jpg

http://i132.photobucket.com/albums/q18/bigskytrapper/IMG_1421_zps217a504f.jpg

77 SMK handloads,  and 12 degrees in the mountains,  Nice day to be out.  

Ill keep after it, and get the groups tighter.    

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Nice first post!  Also kudos to you for shooting in those conditions when most would never lay in the snow to attempt this challenge
Link Posted: 12/22/2014 7:23:40 PM EDT
Thanks,  Not quite laying in the snow, did have a white tarp, to keep the wet off.  Will keep after it.
Link Posted: 12/22/2014 10:57:57 PM EDT
Larue is dominating this thread.

Looks like I'll have to finally reload some rounds to compete.  
Link Posted: 12/26/2014 6:18:16 PM EDT
Link Posted: 12/27/2014 4:40:27 PM EDT
[Last Edit: 12/27/2014 4:41:35 PM EDT by SpeyRod]
OK, This submission replaces my last submission.

SpeyRod, SPR, LaRue Tobr 5.56, 77OTM Berger over 22.5gr Varget and Rem 7 1/2, (.649, 1.017, 1.039, .778, 1.072)=.911-.224=.687/1.047=.656moa






I have been spending a lot of time reading this section on how to shoot properly. I lost the fundamentals a couple times on this go and the groups opened up.

Thanks to Mark LaRue for making a truly exceptional gun!
Link Posted: 12/27/2014 4:50:24 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By LaRue_Tactical:
^^^

That puts you in 3rd place and me one more further from the top.





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I haven't even started shooting my Stealth yet. I doubt very much I can out shoot the #1 spot but I sure am going to try!

I must say, it would be kind of cool to get 4 LaRues in the top 5…

I better start saving for a 7.62 Tobr.
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