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Posted: 9/8/2010 4:37:43 PM EDT

Wierd. The wife just asked me what country I would choose to emigrate to in the event "things become untenable here". Wierd for her, I mean.

So, where WOULD you go if it got bad here and you could leave?

Posted: 9/8/2010 4:40:59 PM EDT

[#1]

If it is that bad here it will probably be worse other places. The world economy really relies on the US for stability.

In any case I would look at Panama.

Posted: 9/8/2010 4:48:12 PM EDT

[#2]

In the event of a global economic collapse, I would choose somewhere remote and cold, think Siberia, Gobi, or Northern Canada.

If it was just a case of some fucktard enacting absolute control over the US and other countries remained intact, I would choose either Finland or Chili with Canada or Italy taking distant second place.

Posted: 9/8/2010 4:58:19 PM EDT

[#3]

Quoted:
If it is that bad here it will probably be worse other places.

this,

do you really think any place would be better, and unless you already had papers, you would be a illegal

Posted: 9/8/2010 5:08:07 PM EDT

[#4]

The sovereign republic of me.
its only a small country of 160 ac, but once the US falls we will expand.

Posted: 9/8/2010 5:12:26 PM EDT

[#5]

Quoted:

Quoted:
If it is that bad here it will probably be worse other places.

this,

do you really think any place would be better, and unless you already had papers, you would be a illegal

Nah, our discussion started off with this premise that there probably would not be anywhere else to flee to unless you were looking at gulags or concentration camps like the Jews in the '30s. Then it would depend on where you could live in relative safety. Not likely to be many places like that left if we were to "go under".

What about the Czech Republic or Poland? Maybe a little too close to Russia for my tastes. Pretty free economies and a dislike for the old soviet socialist ways. Belize would be nice if you like tropics. But any third world area is going to be iffy during times of widepsread civil unrest. She liked the whole tropic thing. I would tend to lean towards cooler areas with less tropical diseases and parasites. Jungle fevers and vermin can be a bitch.

The US is a big place and its unlikely the country as a whole would go along with the debauchery like the Nazi's perpetrated in Germany - but........the nation did elect the current admn. I'll reserve further prognostication based on what happens in and after November!

Posted: 9/8/2010 5:14:10 PM EDT

[#6]

Quoted:
The sovereign republic of me.
its only a small contry of 160 ac, but once the US falls we will expand.

I will subscribe to your newsletter sir.

Posted: 9/8/2010 5:44:03 PM EDT

[#7]

Quoted:
The sovereign republic of me.
its only a small country of 160 ac, but once the US falls we will expand.

depending on where youre at, I might help you grow

Posted: 9/8/2010 5:53:17 PM EDT

[#8]

Siberia. There's money to be made due to the energy industry, and modern Russia is FAR from the old Soviet days. I suspect you'd have more freedom in a town in Siberia than you have in most of the Northeast US.

I hope it never comes to that. One of our ancestors signed the Declaration, and I feel a sense of responsibility to work to make things better here unless it becomes entirely hopeless.

Ops

Posted: 9/8/2010 6:01:09 PM EDT

[#9]

My idea was always not so much where I would go to get away, but where WE would send the trouble makers off to.
One of these days, the WE group of people will stand up together and put a stop to this foolishness. Hopefully sooner than later...

Posted: 9/8/2010 6:12:46 PM EDT

[#10]

Czech Republic, no debate or question about it......

Posted: 9/8/2010 7:18:37 PM EDT

[#11]

Texas

Posted: 9/8/2010 7:27:48 PM EDT

[#12]

I always thought New Zealand would be my choice...

but last week's earthquake nixed that...

guess I'll follow the subscription to the "Republic of Me" plans and start on my wall...

Posted: 9/8/2010 8:53:42 PM EDT

[#13]

I've lived in Panama. It sucks. At least around Panama City. You might have better luck in the highlands, up around Boquete. But all in all–– I didn't like the culture. Too much outright poverty. Bad work ethic. Bad attitudes.

Most of Belize is already in SHTF conditions.

Costa Rica, not much better. Bad culture. Polite people, but lying and stealing are part of the culture. If you don't nail it down, it's gone. Bank robberies are common. You can't wear a baseball cap, sunglasses or talk on a cell phone in a bank there. U.S. Embassy people aren't allowed to walk around at night. (Point of comparison: They ARE allowed to walk around in N. Bogota, because it's (seriously) that much safer than Costa Rica.

If I had to choose a country in Latin America, I'd probably go with Chile. Self-sufficient, food-wise. Variety of climates to choose from. Good wine and stable economy.

Wherever you go, remember: You're buying the local culture, not property values, weather or location.

If I had to go to Europe, I'd probably choose Switzerland. But all things considered, I think that if you're in a strong Red State (U.S.) ... our culture is the best. If you could get rid of the bottom 20% of the dregs, we can accomplish pretty much anything–– while the rest of the world takes a siesta, or insists on retiring at 60.

Posted: 9/8/2010 9:36:21 PM EDT

[#14]

if i had to leave the US, I would go to stockholm Sweden or oslo norway...lived in sweden for about a year back in 97-98, and it was great, expensive, but wouldnt mind living there again...

Posted: 9/8/2010 10:42:58 PM EDT

[#15]

Sorry. Not leavin'. They'll have to carry my dead ass out and pitch my carcass in a hole.

I guess what I mean is that, if it gets that bad, it'll be over my dead body.

Posted: 9/9/2010 1:12:11 AM EDT

[#16]

To the othermaninblack. I like the way you think. House cleaning time is coming.

Posted: 9/9/2010 5:58:55 AM EDT

[#17]

Texas. The only state that kicked another country's ass. I could walk there if needed. There would be some riff raff to clear out and a border to secure, but without the Fed's inerference, it wouldn't take long.

Other options would be Alberta, Saskatchawan, New Zealand(if i had a boat).

Posted: 9/9/2010 6:03:42 AM EDT

[#18]

Wouldn't leave. This is my country and I'll be here to rebuild if it gets to that. I've enjoyed the times that I've been to other countries and the wife and I have talked about spending a year or so in Europe for a learning experience. However, I was born in the US and I plan to die in the US.

Posted: 9/9/2010 6:08:21 AM EDT

[#19]

There is no other place. The US is freedom's last stand.

-Slice

Posted: 9/9/2010 6:31:34 AM EDT

[#20]

Quoted:
The sovereign republic of me.
its only a small country of 160 ac, but once the US falls we will expand.

Something like this. And my country would be located in the state formerly known as Wyoming or Montana.

Posted: 9/9/2010 10:20:49 AM EDT

[#21]

REPUBLIC OF LAKOTAH

Posted: 9/9/2010 10:53:05 AM EDT

[#22]

Costa Rica

Posted: 9/9/2010 11:21:59 AM EDT

[#23]

+1 Czech
+1 Texas

SE Asia if you can get there. Very high QoL

Posted: 9/9/2010 12:42:24 PM EDT

[#24]

Tasmania (Australia), New zeland, Chile.

Posted: 9/9/2010 2:24:13 PM EDT

[#25]

Quoted:
If it is that bad here it will probably be worse other places. The world economy really relies on the US for stability.

In any case I would look at Panama.

This guy has the right idea. Panama is amazing I was there spring on 09 and while the US was in a decline, Panama had literally hundreds of sky scrapers being built. They have a currency (balboa's) but often times use the US dollar so its an easy transition for those inside the US.

Amazing place.

Posted: 9/9/2010 5:35:53 PM EDT

[#26]

I'd have to say Texas! Hell we all know that the rest of the south will follow them. All states north and east of IL will be apart of Texas!! Even some of Southern IL will be apart of Texas as we could care less about Chicago.

Posted: 9/9/2010 6:10:05 PM EDT

[#27]

Stayin'.

Posted: 9/11/2010 5:31:33 PM EDT

[#28]

Quoted:

Quoted:
If it is that bad here it will probably be worse other places. The world economy really relies on the US for stability.

In any case I would look at Panama.

This guy has the right idea. Panama is amazing I was there spring on 09 and while the US was in a decline, Panama had literally hundreds of sky scrapers being built. They have a currency (balboa's) but often times use the US dollar so its an easy transition for those inside the US.

Amazing place.

Panama City is like the beautiful girl who looks good on your arm, until she smiles and you realize she's got f––-ed up teeth and a penis.

Posted: 9/11/2010 10:46:26 PM EDT

[#29]

Quoted:

Quoted:
If it is that bad here it will probably be worse other places. The world economy really relies on the US for stability.

In any case I would look at Panama.

This guy has the right idea. Panama is amazing I was there spring on 09 and while the US was in a decline, Panama had literally hundreds of sky scrapers being built. They have a currency (balboa's) but often times use the US dollar so its an easy transition for those inside the US.

Amazing place.

Panama City is like the beautiful girl who looks good on your arm, until she smiles and you realize she's got f––-ed up teeth and a penis.

Yep! That's about the way I remember it.

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