Posted: 2/23/2017 1:08:36 AM EDT
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So about three miles south and three miles east of my house, there was a shooting at a bar and grill.
Three people shot. Two "serious" and one "not critical". Shooter on the loose, might be in the neighborhood to the south of the restaurant. LEO might have them surrounded in a house to the south of the primary shooting scene. So what should the action plan be? Would you worry about it? Right now for me, it is check that every door locked, family in one area of the house and I have my CCW with two reloads. This might be normal in some areas, but not in my AO. Thanks |
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Lock all doors, strategically place weapons (if they aren't already) and have a family night it...
I have things like that happen fairly regularly as I live right on a very busy street, on the edge of one of the ghettos of hicksville... Our doors are almost always locked. The dogs are usually pretty good at letting us know if something is awry. We've had strung out broads pounding on our door running from imaginary bad guys, pedestrians casing my garage when I'm out working in it, all kinds of crap.... |
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Lock all doors, strategically place weapons (if they aren't already) and have a family night it... I have things like that happen fairly regularly as I live right on a very busy street, on the edge of one of the ghettos of hicksville... Our doors are almost always locked. The dogs are usually pretty good at letting us know if something is awry. We've had strung out broads pounding on our door running from imaginary bad guys, pedestrians casing my garage when I'm out working in it, all kinds of crap.... I'd double and triple check the 187 mags we've got loaded... |
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Why would you worry???? I would typically agree, however we've had two similar incidents near us. Both were murders and the suspect fled on foot. One traveled through our area (reported as armed and dangerous) and ended up in a small town about 4-5 miles away. Having talked with some local LEOs, this is a common trend: home invasions just to hide or steal a vehicle. Since most are already involved in a violent crime, there is nothing left to lose and homeowners are expendable if home. Fortunately, most of our "violent crime" areas are contained (government housing area...go figure), and most either try to hide in that area or escape by vehicle to an adjacent county (dangerous, but not real competent). Reports are supposedly "up" with home invasions while the homeowners are home...that's pretty serious. I read a report very similar where no one new their neighborhood was even cordoned off and a search was on-going for a violent suspect on the loose...situational awareness is the number one defense. This is where a good police scanner comes in or at least monitoring the local news. We are in a more semi-rural area with really no neighbors but one in sight which could make us vulnerable to a degree; the only good news is that access to our home is limited unless you want to travel through a mile or two of swamp, briars or swim across a lake  Additionally, our home area doesn't allow many options if cornered...it helps to have the terrain as a deterrent, but I doubt most pumped on adrenalin, fear and possibly narcotics will rationally make smart, "tactical" decisions...
It's also a good reminder to keep a firearm nearby if not on your person. I'm lazy and need to get back on board with putting a handgun on when I get home from work. This has been a pretty common practice for me (can't carry at work being military) and not uncommon for our immediate area. Having a dog is also a good option; early warning will often dissuade someone looking for a free ride or place to hide. Or, just follow the more appropriate advice 
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Drink coffee get naked and wait. ROCK6 |
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We had that a couple years ago. Murder in a small town near us, perps on the loose.
We also had a couple armed and dangerous in the run felons spotted around here. Armed up with ccw same as you, had the family in the house. During the day, I would be outside. Since I can see for hundreds of yards around the house, it would be far easier to see anybody coming if I were outside vs waiting for the doorto be kicked in. |
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Me, personally, in that situation I wouldn't worry.
However, if the perp was still unaccounted for and "on the run" I would then verify all doors are locked and make sure I have a gun nearby until it's been verified that the shooter is either in custody or dead. |
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I would typically agree, however we've had two similar incidents near us. Both were murders and the suspect fled on foot. One traveled through our area (reported as armed and dangerous) and ended up in a small town about 4-5 miles away. Having talked with some local LEOs, this is a common trend: home invasions just to hide or steal a vehicle. Since most are already involved in a violent crime, there is nothing left to lose and homeowners are expendable if home. Fortunately, most of our "violent crime" areas are contained (government housing area...go figure), and most either try to hide in that area or escape by vehicle to an adjacent county (dangerous, but not real competent). Reports are supposedly "up" with home invasions while the homeowners are home...that's pretty serious. I read a report very similar where no one new their neighborhood was even cordoned off and a search was on-going for a violent suspect on the loose...situational awareness is the number one defense. This is where a good police scanner comes in or at least monitoring the local news. We are in a more semi-rural area with really no neighbors but one in sight which could make us vulnerable to a degree; the only good news is that access to our home is limited unless you want to travel through a mile or two of swamp, briars or swim across a lake Additionally, our home area doesn't allow many options if cornered...it helps to have the terrain as a deterrent, but I doubt most pumped on adrenalin, fear and possibly narcotics will rationally make smart, "tactical" decisions...
It's also a good reminder to keep a firearm nearby if not on your person. I'm lazy and need to get back on board with putting a handgun on when I get home from work. This has been a pretty common practice for me (can't carry at work being military) and not uncommon for our immediate area. Having a dog is also a good option; early warning will often dissuade someone looking for a free ride or place to hide. Or, just follow the more appropriate advice
ROCK6 "Traveling through your area" and "cornered by police miles away" are two completely different scenarios. In what the OP posted there is pretty much zero cause for alarm or need for anything beyond what ever normal security steps he usually does at that time of the day. |
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You should move.... Lock your doors..keep your sidearm out. Watch the news/scanner. That's if your super worried about it. Besides that. Lock doors and just chill. Next block over...two houses down. Now it's different. So up the game. In many parts of this country what the OP stated IS a block or two over and a few houses down. |
| Happens all the time in central FL. I took measures of home harding because already for daily life. I wasn't going to wait for something to happen to worry about my family's safety. Chances are the shooter and victims knew each other and it was a escalation of a altercation rather the a random attack. |
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Just the basics...lock the doors, let the folks & neighbors know what's going on, turn on scanner.
I'm not a fan of leaving weapons pre-positioned or laying around unsecured when it's possible someone could break into a room that's unoccupied. Too many chances for someone looking in the window to see the scatter gun leaning near a door. Example: Peer in windows, see gun. Run out front, set car alarm off/break window/ring doorbell & run full speed back around and act under the cover of the distraction...fantasy, but possible. Wear one on your person. |
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In many parts of this country what the OP stated IS a block or two over and a few houses down. Quoted:
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You should move.... Lock your doors..keep your sidearm out. Watch the news/scanner. That's if your super worried about it. Besides that. Lock doors and just chill. Next block over...two houses down. Now it's different. So up the game. In many parts of this country what the OP stated IS a block or two over and a few houses down. I understand this. I lived and worked where shootings..stabbings..beatings and other crimes happened daily. Even then. The basic precautions were. Lock all doors..Windows..stay alert ..be ready to repel boarders. It also was the driving force of why I removed myself and family from that area. Permanently. Those are his options outside of complete home hardening inside and out. Along with lifestyle changes to reduce security threats. |
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I live in a nice blue collar neighborhood with no violent crime at all. When I was a police officer I worked the other side of town where shootings were literally almost nightly. In your scenario I would lock up like usual, set the alarm, and go to sleep like any other night.
There's always that tiny chance something crazy could happen (Boston marathon suspects), but from my experience dealing with shooting/robbery suspects most either have a ride standing by or find a house/building to hide in or under within a block or two. If they do keep moving they are going to try to blend in and avoid contact with police or residents. Due to police resources working the shooting, my only concern would be unrelated crime in your area while polI've are busy working the shooting. Level of concern would be based on your usual crime rate and how your home security is. |
