Originally Posted By TroyIndustries:
I appreciate having the opportunity to speak to members of this forum. Troy Asymmetric, part of the “World of Troy,” is a business entity with a director who until this past week, held exclusive hiring authority. I am its owner, it bears my name and as we have witnessed in recent days, effects public opinion of all Troy divisions. Earlier this week, I terminated an instructor who did not support the Second Amendment as ardently as I and members of the community do.
Troy Asymmetric provides training to military and law enforcement personnel. If you spend 5 seconds on the website you’ll see a graphical depiction of a bomb explosion - the primary focus of the company. Take a moment to read the course list and you’ll note a common theme: training pertaining to explosions, bomb threats, post-blast crime scenes, incident command and crisis management. Instructors’ primary areas of expertise lie in the “bomb world,” with EOD experience, critical incident response, and tactical decision making. Some posters on the forum have said we only train “Jack Booted Thugs” and there is a secret agenda. These same posters conveniently ignore Troy Prepared: www.troyprepared.com. Troy Asymmetric to this date has offered no firearms training for Gov’t and LE, but in comparison, Troy Prepared has always offered firearms training to qualified civilians. From a factual, non-emotional context, it is impossible to draw the conclusion that we somehow do not support the Second Amendment and are only training “secret army”.
On August 22, 1992, Dale was an HRT Operator tasked to a mission in which he found himself facing armed adversaries. His thoughts were not only on the situation at hand, but the tragic death of a child and a U.S. Marshal. During this type of confrontation when people die, you don’t have the ability to pick sides, they are drawn before you arrive. Dale did what he was trained to do as a sniper / observer. He was fortunate not to have to take a life at this engagement. Special Agent Horiuchi made the regrettable shot, a mistake for which he will never be forgiven. Of the FBI Agents assigned to the Ruby Ridge tragedy, Dale has been one of the most outspoken. He has delivered dozens of presentations to more than 1000 civilians titled “Mistakes and Lessons of Ruby Ridge”. I weighed carefully the decision whether or not to retain Dale and could find no ethical or moral reason to remove him. Dale has not committed a criminal act, he answered all questions honestly, he did not cover anything up and he did not shoot anyone at Ruby Ridge. Dale was asked to join TA for his critical incident management expertise. Dale was never slated by TA for firearms instruction.
We all know from our biggest failures come the greatest lessons in life. Providing training that is relevant with experienced, qualified instructors can prevent a tragedy like Ruby Ridge. Dale will be able to deliver this powerful message and lessons learned in crisis management and incident command. I am driven and passionate about bringing effective change through pertinent training and speakers that have lived through these nightmares. Many times I have seen posts in forums that state “if you weren’t there then SDASTFU”, with that same school of thought, there is no one better than Dale to speak about tragedies like Ruby Ridge.
I have been a longtime and outspoken supporter of the Second Amendment. I always choose to do what’s right, even if my stance goes against others opinion. I will not throw this man to the wolves as he has demonstrated throughout his life high integrity and honor. I know most of those who would disagree are using this forum to voice your anger towards the United States Government. In some cases that anger is justified. The Ruby Ridge tragedy and the loss of life there make no bigger example of abuse of power and Government gone wrong. However, I disagree with your personal attacks on my family and company as we are not the Government and we are not training “Jack Booted Thugs”. I am a patriot and I swore to uphold and defend the Constitution of The United States, all of it. Those who have taken that same oath recognize the importance of keeping it. Thank you. -Steve Troy
With all due respect Mr. Troy, my experience with your products & customer service has been beyond fantastic. So much so that I actually felt I owed you more purchases of your products. Case in point: a few years ago I purchased a Ruger SR556 that came with the Ruger branded Troy BUIS. I called up your company and asked how much to get the HK front post replaced with the winged front post & for the tritium bits, guy quoted me couple hundred bucks - I sent my parts in, they were promptly returned just as I'd hoped but I wasn't billed. I called up to pay and was told "don't sweat it"! How's that for awesome? After the Dick's fiasco I'd been chomping at the bit to find one of your carbine's for sale to purchase because 1) it appeared to be an excellent rifle, and 2) I felt a certain debt needed to be neutralized, and 3) I felt you were royally screwed over and I wanted to show support the only way I could: with my hard earned $$$...
However, as a civilian with a particular mindset (pro liberty, anti excessive gov't overreach in all manners) I buy rifles, training, ammo, components etc so as to be as prepared as I possibly can be to at least have a chance against JACK BOOTED THUGS (who are just following orders) who might decide my meager daily activities equal some sort of foul play in some bafoon's fantasy land. Shooting, hunting, self defense, family defense, camping, work, loving my family are my pursuits. I do not commit crimes. I do not incite violence. I do not
for shtf or zombie apocalypse.
If a civilian were to assist another civilian in the killing of yet a third civilian - and then defended his actions under oath: HE'S AN ACCOMPLICE! And a guilty one at that.
I have a 7 week old daughter at home and the thought of her being held in her mothers arms while her mother is murdered by gov't people makes me absolutely sick to my stomach, gut wrenchingly so! In 1992 I was 15 years old and still remember this event. I've studied as much publicly available information as I can find regarding Ruby Ridge in recent weeks and am even more aghast at what took place. The killings, the taunting and even the events that precipitated this tragedy.
I just can't fathom how you can reconcile the superb customer service you are responsible for, the suberb products you are responsible for - and the employment of a confessed accomplice to murder. Friend or not, I just can't wrap my arms around this.
I recently returned to Brownell's a Troy Delta Rail, I ate the upcharge and bought a Daniel Defense FSB RIS II.
I recently found a Troy Carbine at the local Sportsmans Warehouse for $1,300.00...this is where it will remain as it relates to my wallet.
My brother-in-law bought my Ruger last year. I extolled the virtues of the aforementioned sights. Until recently he was blissfully ignorant as to the direction your company is apparently going. At great cost to him he's replacing the sights & working on a solution for replacing the OE supplied Troy rail.
"Just following orders" has caused the death of millions upon millions of innocent people and at this point it seems you're now Lon H's Dale Monroe given your continued support.
I refuse to participate.
Ask yourself, would you have hired Dale Monroe if he'd been next to the man who murdered your wife?