I have kind of an odd request. Has anyone ever mounted on of the Primary Arms Prism scopes on a carry handle?

I am asking because my next AR15 build will be some sort of A2 style AR15. Right now i am leaning towards a 727 clone. The scope would make it easier for load development no matter what i build, and the occasional coyote popped on my buddies farm.

If you have any pictures, please post them so i can get a feel for how it would look.



Honestly, if i was going to have a permanent optic, it would probably be a Primary Arms Advanced 30mm Red Dot untill a aimpoint 3000 or 5000 was aquired for the look above, or a period correct ACOG for the navy SEAL look.

I like this setup, at some point I'll get one for my A2 build.



acog's are too expensive and that eye relief is

That looks pretty good!

Do you happen to know what model and generation that is?

Is that it? Does not have a Prism scope mounted on the carry handle?

I'm pretty sure they all can, PA has a drop down to add the screw to your order. If you want to be sure just email them, although there may be a delay flooding and all

I will email them later then. I am really curious on how the 5x is on the carry handle seeing as it is a good bit bigger than the 3x scope. Plus i like the reticle of the 5x better.

Something else i thought of, is the top rail on the scopes removable? I swear i heard someone say they are permanently attached. Which would suck as i have no need for it.

I run the 2.5x on my retro XM177-something-or-other-ish lightweight AR. I'm a huge fan of the 2.5x, very fast and forgiving, quick to acquire with a wide field of view. For this application it's great, if I need to reach out beyond 200 yards with great accuracy then I'll grab a different AR, but if I want a light-weight walkabout gun with quick acquisition and good target recognition out to 200, this works great for that.



The 5x is some bigger, but you get the idea here at least.

EDIT: I want to add a couple of things here, and these are just my personal opinion, not company policy or anything. I'm not saying this as a marketing guy trying to push a product, I'm saying this as a shooter who owns and uses this product regularly.

1. Having the base of the optic slide right into the carry handle with good fitment is HUGE. You can already see how tall the centerline of the optic is compared to the barrel, up close the height over bore situation becomes super relevant inside 25 yards. If we had to have a Picatinny adapter between the prism scope and the carry handle, the height over bore situation would be so much worse. You would have no chance at a cheek weld, a chin weld, or anything but your whole head just floating 6 inches behind your scope. You can see that we put the scope as low as possible relative to the back of the carry handle, the rear flip cap is almost touching it. It's as low as you can get and you only have to worry about one screw coming loose and ruining your zero.

2. The thumbscrew is great, with some blue locktite on the threads that sucker isn't moving at all with hundreds of rounds fired through the gun. However by the nature of these old mounts, if you take it on and off you WILL have to rezero. So, this optic effectively "lives" on this rifle for the forseeable future and that includes storage in the safe, etc. The carry handle just doesn't make for any kind of decent quick detach system. If you don't want to use the thumbscrew you can use one of the nuts that came on the scope's picatinny mount, but they aren't as good. For the price, the thumbscrew is a no-brainer.

EDIT 2: Forgot to answer your question, the Picatinny chunk on top of these scopes is NOT removable. It's screwed into the body with two screws and sealed up at the factory with sealant. Pull the screws out and the nitrogen purging will escape through the screw holes. One of the first things we put in the user manual is a warning not to try to remove the top rail.

Thanks for that picture! As i just found these pictures and it makes it alot easier to visualize.


2.5x compact prism scope


5x prism scope

Yeah, the 5x is some bigger but not ridiculously oversized. Something abut the design with prism scopes makes them grow exponentially larger with more magnification, and that's why you only see them in low powers. Do a google image search for Trijicon TA-648 and you can see that even at 6x the prism design gets cartoonishly enormous.

Trust me, i know! That is why i was so worried about the 5x scope as that was the one i really wanted if i got one for this 727 clone build.

I always did want one of those 6x ACOGs when i wanted to get a LMT MWS as i wanted to clone the British L129a1.

I've been quite happy with mine so far; I can easily transition between irons and the optic. Weight is not too bad either.

@ SouthernPhantom

That is awesome! I didn't know anyone responded after my last post. Which version of the scope do you have?

The optic in the photo is the 2.5x version; it gives me better target acquisition and a finer sight picture than irons but is still effective closer in.