Posted: 4/6/2012 6:06:47 PM EDT
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Larue mounts are so repeatable that its hard to measure... So how bout putting a laser pointer in a 30MM housing... walk down and mark where the lasers pointing with a sharpie... Go back and take the mount off... repeat...
That would work for any scope mount............. |
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Larue mounts are so repeatable that its hard to measure... So how bout putting a laser pointer in a 30MM housing... walk down and mark where the lasers pointing with a sharpie... Go back and take the mount off... repeat... That would work for any scope mount............. If you need to do it for your own confidence, go ahead. most of us have taken our scopes, red dots, lasers off and have found the retension of zero to be perfectly intact. There is even a video floating around where the ARF Member took it off and threw it downrange, picked it up cleaned the dirt off, placed it back on the rifle and shot the sam as before he removed it. |
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Larue mounts are so repeatable that its hard to measure... So how bout putting a laser pointer in a 30MM housing... walk down and mark where the lasers pointing with a sharpie... Go back and take the mount off... repeat... That would work for any scope mount............. That's a good idea. There are many varying factors when shooting groups where a laser should be perfect every time. I imagine it goes without saying you would want to clamp the weapon in a solid vice and your target should be perfectly stationary. In the 'Art Of The Precision Rifle' video the instructor said he was skeptical about QD mounts and 'return to zero' so he clamped a weapon, zeroed in on a spot, removed and replaced the optic many times and he said he was still zeroed in on the same spot. I'm not real skeptical about it, but it would be interesting to see. |
Come on guys catch up....  I mean, yous guys can go ahead and do all the testing you want... I seen this several times from several folks that are more in the know than I... What I want Mark and Crew to do is keep the mills Churning out new LT goods as fast as possible... |
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There is a repeatable test pinned at the top of this page. It is the third one down under TOPIC. Or get an independent certified lab to test it for you. Bet it will not be cheap. Yes I'm sure he saw that. They shot for groups and repeatability in that thread. The OP is talking about using a laser in order to eliminate all of the variables & weak links involved with shooting groups (human error, wind, the weapon itself, ammunition, etc...). A lab is going way overboard  . Clamping a rail in a solid vice attached to a solid bench would be plenty. A highly magnified optic 'might' be more accurate than a laser though.
Yes we all know LaRue mounts have been PROVEN to return to zero in real life. It was the OP's proposition to use a laser. Very simple. I think the idea is self explanatory and a good one. |
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Larue mounts are so repeatable that its hard to measure... So how bout putting a laser pointer in a 30MM housing... walk down and mark where the lasers pointing with a sharpie... Go back and take the mount off... repeat... That would work for any scope mount............. If you need to do it for your own confidence, go ahead. most of us have taken our scopes, red dots, lasers off and have found the retension of zero to be perfectly intact. There is even a video floating around where the ARF Member took it off and threw it downrange, picked it up cleaned the dirt off, placed it back on the rifle and shot the sam as before he removed it. The Aimpoint rep at the first Range Day was doing with exact thing with a M4s. Although i had been witness to the repeatability of LaRue's mounts it was still awesome to see an optic get thrown/bounced/skidded across a dirt range and hold zero after everything it went though. It proved just how good the combination of an Aimpoint optic mounted on a LaRue mount can be in harsh conditions. |
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I have read just about everything there is to read about QD mounts. Including the Larue test at the top of the Larue forum... I have tested my OBR mount on my OBR...
WHAT IS THE PROBLEM THEN??? The problem is that i have read comments on snipers hide stating that brand X is more repeatable than Larue (BS IMHO)... I will get to work on this test. I will buy every 30MM QD that there is and test them. I will use a reflective target so that the laser shows up at 300+ yards in the sun. I will use my OBR as the test platform as its got a good quality rail on it. DUH the gun will be clamped down... I understand that you aimpoint guys dont care about 1/10 MOA variability from shot to shot... |
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Quoted: Driving you nuts aint it...I have read just about everything there is to read about QD mounts. Including the Larue test at the top of the Larue forum... I have tested my OBR mount on my OBR... WHAT IS THE PROBLEM THEN??? The problem is that i have read comments on snipers hide stating that brand X is more repeatable than Larue (BS IMHO)... I will get to work on this test. I will buy every 30MM QD that there is and test them. I will use a reflective target so that the laser shows up at 300+ yards in the sun. I will use my OBR as the test platform as its got a good quality rail on it. DUH the gun will be clamped down... I understand that you aimpoint guys dont care about 1/10 MOA variability from shot to shot... Half the time, I think the guys over there, just hate ML... So bad, that if he gave them a 10 oz Brick of Gold Bullion, they'd bitch that the Assay Marks were crooked or the edges weren't smooth enough or something.... Well, I'll read your full report after your done... Sounds like your on a mission... :) |
| None of my LT optic mounts (installed per the factory instructions) repeat exact zero. They always require a re-zero. They're better than bolt-on mounts, but they're still off by a .25-.50 MOA. The same goes for the Bobro mount I've used. I've never used an ADM mount. |