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Posted: 9/2/2017 5:34:12 AM EDT
[#1]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By mettee:
GBPSPE 
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Posted: 9/2/2017 3:21:24 PM EDT
[#2]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Defender3:
I thought we couldn't say that any longer? 
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Posted: 9/2/2017 4:05:40 PM EDT
[#3]
I can see I've got a lot more learning to do..... I'm not even going to try with the acronym, as it wouldn't surprise me in the least if I'm on the receiving end.....
So, correct me if I'm wrong........ Accubonds are a darn good bullet when it comes to expansion, even down to subsonic transition speed, their claims of the unworldly BC have been different to prove, even substantiated. When it come to translating published information to observed performance, one would be best served to stick with the Bergers. Is that pretty close? |
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Posted: 9/2/2017 4:18:44 PM EDT
[Last Edit: Defender3]
[#4]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Carlhwv:
I can see I've got a lot more learning to do..... I'm not even going to try with the acronym, as it wouldn't surprise me in the least if I'm on the receiving end..... So, correct me if I'm wrong........ Accubonds are a darn good bullet when it comes to expansion, even down to subsonic transition speed, their claims of the unworldly BC have been different to prove, even substantiated. When it come to translating published information to observed performance, one would be best served to stick with the Bergers. Is that pretty close? Most of us are shooting paper and long range steel. We've been testing to see what our barrel likes. Most of us shoot the Hornady 130 ELDMs very well. Mine shot the Lapua 139gr scenar well, but not great (need to tweak the load), but my bolt gun loved it. Same for the nosler, berger, barnes, etc., etc. You may want to try a box of the H130s and go from there. Use the thread's index and look at the loads that were posted, and see if your rifle likes them. You can spend a lot of money trying to perfect a load, or you can buy the Hornadys.  YMMV.
Now, with that said, what are you going to do with your rifle, hunt or punch paper and steel? |
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Posted: 9/2/2017 7:42:23 PM EDT
[#5]
My plan is it will make up the other half of my 6.5 hunting outfit. That was the plan for my .260 barrel, but I couldn't get past the exposed gas tube, so I sold it. For Elk, we hunt in pairs and this is going to be the LR tool; anything over 300, maxing out in the 400-600 yd range, depending on wind. When we hunt antelope , there are always an abundance of tags and options to shoot in various conditions.
I like to hunt with monolithics, but you need such high terminal velocities...+2000fps....they aren't suited well here. The Accubond LRs stated expansion all the way down to 1300fps makes them attractive.....before Barnes coppers, we used Noslers exclusively. |
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Posted: 9/2/2017 10:05:32 PM EDT
[Last Edit: mettee]
[#6]
Today: 260
Ejection direction 
Phoenix 
Some holes 
Closer 
Fivers 
Lost count on these, and that jacked with me 
Ten as quick as i could 
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Posted: 9/2/2017 10:11:56 PM EDT
[Last Edit: mettee]
[#7]
I couldn't get comfy at the bench today, irritates me. I did however decide to back way off on the power this time while shooting, big difference. Used 15x to 18x at 100 yards and probably could use even less.
Shot 100% in suppressed mode with no can, rifle shot like budda. So I am slightly over gassed, that sounds like it's a common feature of many of these barrels. Brass still looks really good. Rifle seems to be very gentle on the brass. |
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TX, USA
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Posted: 9/2/2017 10:21:36 PM EDT
[#8]
Is this a public range in Pheonix? Nice shooting. What's the max distance there?
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Posted: 9/2/2017 10:33:17 PM EDT
[#9]
Yes public, Usery mountain range. Public range to 300y, members range to 5-600y.
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Posted: 9/2/2017 10:40:18 PM EDT
[#10]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By mettee:
I couldn't get comfy at the bench today, irritates me. I did however decide to back way off on the power this time while shooting, big difference. Used 15x to 18x at 100 yards and probably could use even less. Shot 100% in suppressed mode with no can, rifle shot like budda. So I am slightly over gassed, that sounds like it's a common feature of many of these barrels. |
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Posted: 9/2/2017 10:46:12 PM EDT
[#11]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Blaster7R:
ammo? Hornady 130 ELDM |
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TX, USA
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Posted: 9/2/2017 10:50:27 PM EDT
[#12]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By mettee:
Yes public, Usery mountain range. Public range to 300y, members range to 5-600y. |
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IA, USA
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Posted: 9/2/2017 11:13:10 PM EDT
[#13]
Those of you with the tranquilo, does it really reduce back pressure and make your brass eject properly? Definitely thinking about getting one if it will fix my issues
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Posted: 9/2/2017 11:56:40 PM EDT
[#14]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Joshpuh:
Those of you with the tranquilo, does it really reduce back pressure and make your brass eject properly? Definitely thinking about getting one if it will fix my issues I got one when I got my 6.5G and will let you know EVENTUALLY But would prefer the words from someone who has done it lol |
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Posted: 9/3/2017 6:49:46 AM EDT
[#15]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By mettee:
Today: 260 http://i.imgur.com/nbePuO7.jpg Ejection direction http://i.imgur.com/f4YBSLs.jpg Phoenix http://i.imgur.com/WhJUaeE.jpg Some holes http://i.imgur.com/iXuJtvP.jpg http://i.imgur.com/jS8Xkv4.jpg http://i.imgur.com/dNqCcq8.jpg Closer http://i.imgur.com/m4rmXtw.jpg http://i.imgur.com/7XME2ew.jpg http://i.imgur.com/LFp0mMa.jpg http://i.imgur.com/a1YsqnL.jpg http://i.imgur.com/tv7s0rm.jpg http://i.imgur.com/tl24Q5V.jpg Fivers http://i.imgur.com/7nYmVQQ.jpg http://i.imgur.com/BMa9WlY.jpg Lost count on these, and that jacked with me http://i.imgur.com/xowNoZA.jpg http://i.imgur.com/ysn5flK.jpg Ten as quick as i could http://i.imgur.com/otgmNNV.jpg It must be hard with rifle bounce on those concrete slabs. |
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Posted: 9/3/2017 6:55:50 AM EDT
[Last Edit: Defender3]
[#16]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Blaster7R:
When I talked to John at LaRue he said that the barrel was built for the Tranquilo and they tested it with Prime and Hornady loads the FGGM was on the hot side (as has been said here before here ) And if you are running a heaver spring and buffer to slow the bolt down with another can and switch to the Tranquiulo you will prob have to switch back to the stock buffer and spring... I got one when I got my 6.5G and will let you know EVENTUALLY But would prefer the words from someone who has done it lol As a side note and I think I mentioned this a few pages back, but I did start to shoot the heavier 140 class rounds so I switched to the H3 buffer, and with no issues using the H3 with the heavier rounds (loaded to 2650-2700fps) or when I went back to the H130s. |
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CA, USA
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Posted: 9/3/2017 3:43:01 PM EDT
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PSA: I bought a case of Hornady 130s for $230 shipped from Buds, cheapest I've seen.
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Posted: 9/3/2017 4:19:06 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Defender3:
Nice range report - thanks! It must be hard with rifle bounce on those concrete slabs. Next time I'll use a prone position for sure. |
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Posted: 9/3/2017 6:06:44 PM EDT
[Last Edit: Defender3]
[#19]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By bfk4lyfe:
PSA: I bought a case of Hornady 130s for $230 shipped from Buds, cheapest I've seen. I went into Bass Pro in Ashland today and they had NO 260 and the 6.5CM Hornady 140s were $37.99 a box. I smiled and walked out. |
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Posted: 9/4/2017 1:35:38 AM EDT
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What is the MV you guys are getting out of the 18inch barrel with a suppressor with 130 ELD-M
I need s starting point for my AB. Should be able to get to a long range to true it in a few weeks. I know it is here but I don't feel like going throe 40 pages lol |
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CA, USA
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Posted: 9/4/2017 2:57:51 AM EDT
[#21]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Blaster7R:
What is the MV you guys are getting out of the 18inch barrel with a suppressor with 130 ELD-M I need s starting point for my AB. Should be able to get to a long range to true it in a few weeks. I know it is here but I don't feel like going throe 40 pages lol |
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Posted: 9/4/2017 8:18:33 AM EDT
[Last Edit: MikeinNC]
[#22]
I was getting ~2640 fps with the factory H130ELD-M out of my 18" .260 barrel and SOCOM 7.62Mini. Factory Gorilla with 130 Berger Hybrids are almost a 100fps slower than the H130s.
I have recently switched over to the 22" barrel. |
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GA, USA
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Posted: 9/4/2017 12:22:50 PM EDT
[#23]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Defender3:
Yes and no. The 260 has more powder capacity while the CM allows more seating options due to a longer neck. JMHO, but the 140s work fine if you load them down a bit to say 2650-2700fps. Push them faster out of a gasser and you'll see pressure issues. YMMV. 2650-2700fps is respectable in a 22" barrel. Most guys running a 26" bolt gun with 142's are in the 2775-2825fps range. Trying to get those velocities in a 22" gas gun is just asking for trouble. Based on the general rule of 25fps per inch reduction, 2700fps seems like a sane max velocity for the heavies in a 22" without running into pressure issues and abusing the brass too much. That said, if I was planning on hitting a specific velocity with the 140 class bullet, I'd figure that a 22" would net 2600-2650 without running into pressure issues. |
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MD, USA
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Posted: 9/5/2017 10:39:59 PM EDT
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Finally, I join the fray, Of course I don't think I'll have any time to get to the range till the end of the month, go figure...
Now I need to get some UDE plastics, and yes crappy scope, most of my $$ is tided up in buying out someones home machine shop so I can get the ball rolling on my gunsmithing shop venture... |
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Posted: 9/6/2017 2:17:14 AM EDT
[#25]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By WolfMetalFab:
Finally, I join the fray, Of course I don't think I'll have any time to get to the range till the end of the month, go figure... https://i.imgur.com/Ms5uhfPl.jpg Now I need to get some UDE plastics, and yes crappy scope, most of my $ is tided up in buying out someones home machine shop so I can get the ball rolling on my gunsmithing shop venture... |
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MD, USA
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Posted: 9/6/2017 2:30:58 AM EDT
[Last Edit: WolfMetalFab]
[#26]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By mettee:
Outstanding choice to do the machine shop! Good luck and break and end mill Gunsmithing work is something I have been thinking about for years, having all the machines + tooling fall in lap was just the push I needed.
and on topic looks like I'll get to see how well I can shoot to beat this one 
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Posted: 9/6/2017 2:38:00 AM EDT
[#27]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By WolfMetalFab:
Haha, Thanks. I'm already pretty good at doing that with my small desk top CNC mills Gunsmithing work is something I have been thinking about for years, having all the machines + tooling fall in lap was just the push I needed.
and on topic looks like I'll get to see how well I can shoot to beat this one
https://i.imgur.com/6Hc08U0m.jpg 
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CA, USA
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Posted: 9/6/2017 4:06:52 PM EDT
[Last Edit: bfk4lyfe]
[#28]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By bfk4lyfe:
I think there's only one mention of it in one of D3's posts at around 2550. I'm going to chrono mine when I go to the range this Wednesday (but I don't have a suppressor). 2619 2624 2609 2554 Av 2610 Es 91 Sd 34 It was about 80 today at 540'. Groups were good but the first shot would go wild, other four in one hole, not sure what's going on with that. Most extreme example: 
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Posted: 9/6/2017 4:14:58 PM EDT
[#29]
To many variables Id have to say. Check all the simple stuff first.
Barrel tight Scope mount tight Then have another person shoot it, see if the same result happens. |
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CA, USA
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Posted: 9/6/2017 4:20:31 PM EDT
[#30]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By mettee:
To many variables Id have to say. Check all the simple stuff first. Barrel tight Scope mount tight Then have another person shoot it, see if the same result happens. |
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Posted: 9/6/2017 4:32:05 PM EDT
[#31]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By bfk4lyfe:
Yeah I will. I'm not overly concerned, I'm sure it's just operator error on the first shot and then I settle into a rhythm after. Have some one watch you next time. Also check paralax, use the head nod technique |
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CA, USA
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Posted: 9/6/2017 4:38:52 PM EDT
[#32]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By mettee:
If you look at mine up a little ways, I throw my third shot. Have some one watch you next time. Also check paralax, use the head nod technique |
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Posted: 9/6/2017 5:04:14 PM EDT
[#33]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By bfk4lyfe:
Ill try having someone record it and see how it looks, good call. |
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Posted: 9/6/2017 5:38:49 PM EDT
[#34]
That reminds me, I wanted to post about the muzzle device I am using. Its not Larue so forgive me
If you are shooting suppressed this isnt for you so much http://www.area419.com/product/hellfire_st/ I am very impressed with the recoil reduction and the sound at the gun. While shooting it is not loud and there is no felt concussive force, out to the sides and behind that is another story . I went this direction because I am not shooting suppressed right now. I have two 260 barrels that I can move this device to with ease, no tools. When and if I do get a suppressor they make taper mounts for specific cans on the market. In addition to being able to move it to other barrels, you can easily remove to clean. Some pics for the pic whores
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CA, USA
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Posted: 9/6/2017 6:17:01 PM EDT
[#35]
That's what I have on mine
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I had it on my 16" 308 barrel. It was beyond night and day for that. Never shot the 260 without it so I can't compare but the gun is pretty soft shooting. The self timing thing is nice (especially compared to the !@;&/@$ shim kit, almost lost my mind installing that). |
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MD, USA
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Posted: 9/9/2017 12:13:06 AM EDT
[Last Edit: WolfMetalFab]
[#36]
Range Report! Found a couple of hours of free time this afternoon so I ran to the range, only 1 box of ammo, no real rear bag
 , shitty china clone bipod but I got to shoot it
All but the last group were shot off bench, last 5rds I got smart and setup prone but still managed to yank a shot 
Was a great day out to shoot 
Ammo: Federal Fusion 120gn Scope: Konus Pro M-30 30mm tube 6.5-25x44mm Mil dot 0.1Mrad click Rife: tOBR .260 22" ETA: Casing off the start were landing at about 1-1:30, towards the end of the box they were going to 2 o'clock . The bench 
Empties After 
First groups after sighters 
So close.... 
Same guy (WTF lol) 
Pulled the 3rd round, SOB... 
I'm itching to get some ammo loaded up and see what I can wring out of this stick now
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Posted: 9/9/2017 5:50:07 AM EDT
[#37]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By WolfMetalFab:
Range Report! Found a couple of hours of free time this afternoon so I ran to the range, only 1 box of ammo, no real rear bag , shitty china clone bipod but I got to shoot it
All but the last group were shot off bench, last 5rds I got smart and setup prone but still managed to yank a shot
Was a great day out to shoot
Ammo: Federal Fusion 120gn Scope: Konus Pro M-30 30mm tube 6.5-25x44mm Mil dot 0.1Mrad click Rife: tOBR .260 22" ETA: Casing off the start were landing at about 1-1:30, towards the end of the box they were going to 2 o'clock . The bench https://i.imgur.com/lOg2M1kl.jpg Empties After https://i.imgur.com/Tr4e1UIl.jpg First groups after sighters https://i.imgur.com/z0zxzfUl.jpg So close.... https://i.imgur.com/cuOr9cul.jpg Same guy (WTF lol) https://i.imgur.com/AcELDxwl.jpg Pulled the 3rd round, SOB... https://i.imgur.com/kW19drJl.jpg I'm itching to get some ammo loaded up and see what I can wring out of this stick now
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Posted: 9/9/2017 2:01:11 PM EDT
[#38]
Nice shooting Wolf. If I have to shoot off a bench I turn it around and shoot off the square end. That way your positioning is similar to prone as far as your upper body goes. It has helped me with consistency.
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Posted: 9/12/2017 6:13:22 PM EDT
[#39]
Wow, 40 pages and over 45,000 views!
I just ordered a LaRue large frame lower to go with my Ultimate 6.5CM kit. I may have to see how the factory built tOBR 260 does against the home built 6.5CM LaRue.
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Posted: 9/12/2017 7:15:19 PM EDT
[#40]
GBPSPE you 260 traitor
You better not be posting 6.5 creedmore stuff in here
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Posted: 9/13/2017 5:53:48 AM EDT
[#41]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By mettee:
GBPSPE you 260 traitor
You better not be posting 6.5 creedmore stuff in here |
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IA, USA
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Posted: 9/16/2017 12:04:29 PM EDT
[Last Edit: Joshpuh]
[#42]
Interesting turn of events In the .260 trashing brass saga. So originally I decided my can (griffin RSTA) was the issue causing loose primer pockets after a few firings because my loads with RL17 did not destroy primer pockets without the can. (Factory loaded Hornady had loose primer pockets as well)
Today I got a wild hair in my ass to try h4350 and the suppressor and sure enough I am on my 6th firing with one lapua case at 41.5 gr of h4350 with the griffin RSTA and I have little to no primer pocket loosening. The RL17 must just have a longer pressure spike and with the suppressor unlocking the bolt sooner it is deforming my primer pockets. Guess I will sacrifice some velocity to save brass life. As a side note I took the RL17 load running 2800 fps to 1018 last weekend and with my last 9 shots I rapid fired and hit the target 8 times, I was getting shots off before you would hear the impact from the previous hit and only missed one time. The guys I went shooting with who weren't behind the spotting scope thought I was shooting 525 yards. They couldn't believe it when the spotter told them it was the 1000 yarder
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Posted: 9/16/2017 3:23:13 PM EDT
[#43]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Defender3:
Wow, 40 pages and over 45,000 views! I just ordered a LaRue large frame lower to go with my Ultimate 6.5CM kit. I may have to see how the factory built tOBR 260 does against the home built 6.5CM LaRue.
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Posted: 9/16/2017 3:36:12 PM EDT
[#44]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Carlhwv:
I think you should send Mark a PM and lobby for a free lower. With all of your effort, I think it's safe to say you have been responsible for promoting his products and providing support that warrants such consideration..... Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Carlhwv:
Originally Posted By Defender3:
Wow, 40 pages and over 45,000 views! I just ordered a LaRue large frame lower to go with my Ultimate 6.5CM kit. I may have to see how the factory built tOBR 260 does against the home built 6.5CM LaRue.
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Posted: 9/17/2017 8:57:39 AM EDT
[#45]
Weather 1 - D3 0.
Thought I'd head to Quantico and loaded up the stuff last night, but when I got up this morning there was a heavy, thick fog; the kind that just hangs there to late in the morning. I didn't feel like waiting hours on the range for it to burn off, and shooting 100 wasn't at the top of the list, so I unloaded and will move to change 1 to plan b.
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Posted: 9/17/2017 9:15:02 AM EDT
[#46]
Went shooting with my old man yesterday. He had expressed interest in getting a LaRue .260, so I brought mine out. Shot a 3 round group for him that measured .36". Pretty sure he will be buying one now.
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Posted: 9/18/2017 1:21:16 PM EDT
[#47]
If anyone is interested, H4350 is back in stock at Reloading Unlimited.
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Posted: 9/18/2017 11:00:21 PM EDT
[Last Edit: LaRue_Tactical]
[#48]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Defender3:
Weather 1 - D3 0. Thought I'd head to Quantico and loaded up the stuff last night, but when I got up this morning there was a heavy, thick fog; the kind that just hangs there to late in the morning. I didn't feel like waiting hours on the range for it to burn off, and shooting 100 wasn't at the top of the list, so I unloaded and will move to change 1 to plan b. Found it when we were setting up. We're doing demos out there during Modern Day Marine this week. |
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Posted: 9/19/2017 12:12:18 AM EDT
[#49]
That sounds like a fun time.
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MD, USA
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Posted: 9/19/2017 1:06:52 AM EDT
[#50]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By LaRue_Tactical:
Some unknown bolt gunner left a nice plle of 7.62 brass on the 500 yard line, along with his lens cap to a Leupold spotting scope .... Found it when we were setting up. We're doing demos out there during Modern Day Marine this week. )
Anyways, thanks to one of the members here, I now have a die set and lapua brass to load, once this current trade show I'm working at is over I'll be ordering the neck bushings (0.288" and 0.289"), and some 123 & 130gn ELD to play with. If I'm off on the bushing size someone let me know
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