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Posted: 1/25/2006 2:10:23 PM EDT
Who would be up for a machine gun shoot the weekend of May 19-21, 2006, sort of a way to say "Thanks for 20 years" (sarcastically) to the anti's for the '86 FOPA (Firearms Owner's Protection Act) which banned the civilian possession of newly-manufactured machine guns? Possibly at Tom Bean or Sanger or TacPro or Tiger Valley? Just thinking aloud...
Link Posted: 1/25/2006 2:17:39 PM EDT
Link Posted: 1/25/2006 3:05:04 PM EDT
Sounds good.

Let's take pictures for VPC to use!
Link Posted: 1/25/2006 3:12:37 PM EDT
Tac Pro please
Link Posted: 1/25/2006 3:52:03 PM EDT

Originally Posted By DVDTracker:



yea.... what hea said!
Link Posted: 1/25/2006 6:23:44 PM EDT
Would be nice...a big suggestion would be a static firing line.

A static line allows those with a few toys to actually setup a table, canopy, chairs etc...

Access by vehicles should be considered. Ammo is heavy, especially 8mm. Also, it allows those w/ belt guns to setup and not worry about taking them down...

Much like bulletfest.
Link Posted: 1/25/2006 7:53:43 PM EDT
[Last Edit: 1/25/2006 7:54:12 PM EDT by jasondcrum]
Machine guns are for terrorists and FBI agents that are pissed because they missed Waco.

<­BR>

I'm in.


Link Posted: 1/25/2006 8:55:37 PM EDT
what if you dont own machine guns? I hate going to the range by myself....... I would like to go with other people.
Link Posted: 1/26/2006 4:40:30 AM EDT

Originally Posted By rogue007:
what if you dont own machine guns? I hate going to the range by myself....... I would like to go with other people.



You must pre-qualify a bump firing certification... of 30 rounds continuous from the hip and shoulder.... and must bring 1000 rounds of ammo, minimum.... half of which you will donate to the "real" machinegun owners.



Link Posted: 1/26/2006 2:15:15 PM EDT
i can pre qualify ---
i bump with ease from the shoulder and hip. rate of fire is on par with the ''real'' boys.
for 1/100th of the cost. he he.

about donating my ammo? i sell yas some....
Link Posted: 1/26/2006 2:39:02 PM EDT

Originally Posted By FALARAK:

Originally Posted By rogue007:
what if you dont own machine guns? I hate going to the range by myself....... I would like to go with other people.



You must pre-qualify a bump firing certification... of 30 rounds continuous from the hip and shoulder.... and must bring 1000 rounds of ammo, minimum.... half of which you will donate to the "real" machinegun owners.




So I take it you will also be donating 500rds minimum to the "real" machine gun owners!?
Link Posted: 1/26/2006 2:39:49 PM EDT
PS: I take it semi-autos will also be welcome?
Link Posted: 1/26/2006 3:47:03 PM EDT

Originally Posted By mikejohnson:
So I take it you will also be donating 500rds minimum to the "real" machine gun owners!?




Big Mac attack....


Link Posted: 1/26/2006 4:55:39 PM EDT

Originally Posted By frisco:

Originally Posted By mikejohnson:
So I take it you will also be donating 500rds minimum to the "real" machine gun owners!?




Big Mac attack....





DAMN STRAIGHT! Cool saying... Hmmm....



Suppressed 147gr Winchester USA, 50rd mag

Unsuppressed CCI Blazer, 32/38rd mag (forget how many was loaded, and I don't feel like counting the shots...)
Link Posted: 1/26/2006 5:11:05 PM EDT
Link Posted: 1/26/2006 5:19:48 PM EDT

Originally Posted By mikejohnson:

Originally Posted By frisco:

Originally Posted By mikejohnson:
So I take it you will also be donating 500rds minimum to the "real" machine gun owners!?




Big Mac attack....





DAMN STRAIGHT! Cool saying... Hmmm....




Bring some 7.62x39 and some 8mm and I might let you try a "real" machinegun...
Link Posted: 1/26/2006 5:24:57 PM EDT

Originally Posted By frisco:
Bring some 7.62x39 and some 8mm and I might let you try a "real" machinegun...



Hey, at least its a start...

ok, will try and get more ammo that I don't have guns for... depending on how bad I get hit this year on my tax return... I just bought a shitload of ammo recently!

AR47.... 7.62x39.... (what else you got?)

What's the 8mm for?
Link Posted: 1/26/2006 5:40:03 PM EDT

Originally Posted By mikejohnson:
What's the 8mm for?





It ain't a 1919 conversion.
Link Posted: 1/26/2006 5:52:51 PM EDT
Link Posted: 1/26/2006 5:59:59 PM EDT
saw them at Tom Bean, but there was so much going on-- I really want to check out one of your guys' 10-22 autos... I'll bring my 50rd mags...
Link Posted: 1/26/2006 6:36:35 PM EDT

Originally Posted By mojo:

For his M16...




Brian just emailed a new video w/ slow fire mod....seemed closer to 6-700 rpm....
Link Posted: 1/26/2006 6:47:35 PM EDT
Link Posted: 1/26/2006 8:11:05 PM EDT
Hell, I'd like to go just to watch!
Link Posted: 1/26/2006 10:20:30 PM EDT
Link Posted: 1/27/2006 5:44:52 AM EDT

Originally Posted By soowah:
Hell, I'd like to go just to watch!



You can load mags and belts....
Link Posted: 1/27/2006 5:48:46 AM EDT
Are lowly M16s invited, or do you have to have something that requires a trailer hitch to move?
Link Posted: 1/27/2006 6:05:11 AM EDT
I want to come.....but no class III or knowledge of bump fire....

But I do have some Tannerite!!!!!
Link Posted: 1/27/2006 6:40:51 AM EDT

Originally Posted By jasondcrum:
I'm in.



How can you be in? You don't even own a machine gun yourself.


Originally Posted By SP1Grrl:
Are girls allowed?




Yes, of course, because you do own a machine yourself. But you would be welcome anyway.


Originally Posted By mikejohnson:
PS: I take it semi-autos will also be welcome?



Absolutely, this is just another excuse to get together and put lots of lead downrange.


Originally Posted By SmallChange:
Are lowly M16s invited....



It's a machine gun, right?


Originally Posted By SilentRun:
I want to come.....but no class III or knowledge of bump fire....

But I do have some Tannerite!!!!!



Tannerite gets you free admission.

But seriously, this is just another excuse to have a gathering and shoot. And a machine gun shoot on Friday, May 19, 2006, would be a perfect way to get back at the anti's in our own little way for the '86 FOPA.

Seems we have enough interest to hold a shoot, now we just need to vote on a venue. Poll added.
Link Posted: 1/27/2006 7:26:34 AM EDT
hrt4me-

Good range options, just some casual observations:

Tom Bean - Short range, very limited berm, group size can be an issue

Tiger Valley - Good size, several bays for shooting so it's not as crowded. Not great for setting up tables and canopy's ala bulletfest

Sanger - short range, C3 range in a gulley...can be an issue in the event of rain...can get crowded quickly...more remote than Tom Bean

Tac Pro - never shot there, care to elaborate on range setup?

Hun farm- It's the farm....biggest problem is the drive, especially for the south Texas crew....

Link Posted: 1/27/2006 8:36:22 AM EDT
Link Posted: 1/27/2006 10:11:02 AM EDT
I will call TJ and get his thoughts on hosting this at Tiger Valley on Friday, May 19, 2006. I checked the Tiger Valley schedule and they already have a 3-gun match that weekend, May 20-21, 2006, so what better reason to go down to Tiger Valley and celebrate our freedoms and shoot in a 3-gun match and the same weekend.
Link Posted: 1/27/2006 10:26:05 AM EDT
My only requirements are:

1) Safe environment...

2) I can back my vehicle up to the line....unless Mojo's willing to carry cases of 8mm and 308 to the line for me...Each case of 8mm weighs 55lbs.



Distance and reactive targets are a plus...
Link Posted: 1/27/2006 10:44:44 AM EDT
Link Posted: 1/27/2006 11:16:26 AM EDT
hrt-- are you "shooting" for a HUGE event?
Link Posted: 1/27/2006 11:18:09 AM EDT

Originally Posted By DVDTracker:
Last time I was shooting a Mac with a collapsible stock, my hand rode up too high, hit the button to collapse the stock and it whacked me in the face.




Got any pics? was it automatic?
Link Posted: 1/27/2006 1:34:31 PM EDT

Originally Posted By mojo:

Originally Posted By frisco:
My only requirements are:

1) Safe environment...

2) I can back my vehicle up to the line....unless Mojo's willing to carry cases of 8mm and 308 to the line for me...Each case of 8mm weighs 55lbs.



Distance and reactive targets are a plus...



Sure....Been doing manual labor all my life.
BTW, we have always driven into and parked and unloaded our stuff at those bays all the time.



I can help you out:


Link Posted: 1/27/2006 1:49:38 PM EDT

Originally Posted By RenegadeX:

Originally Posted By mojo:

Originally Posted By frisco:
My only requirements are:

1) Safe environment...

2) I can back my vehicle up to the line....unless Mojo's willing to carry cases of 8mm and 308 to the line for me...Each case of 8mm weighs 55lbs.



Distance and reactive targets are a plus...



Sure....Been doing manual labor all my life.
BTW, we have always driven into and parked and unloaded our stuff at those bays all the time.



I can help you out:




Now, just need Mojo to move the cases into the mule!



Seriously, I know we did not park cars near the bays at the first gunstock....must have been the mud. If we can park @ the bays then no problem.



Link Posted: 1/27/2006 1:50:38 PM EDT

Originally Posted By RenegadeX:

Originally Posted By mojo:

Originally Posted By frisco:
My only requirements are:

1) Safe environment...

2) I can back my vehicle up to the line....unless Mojo's willing to carry cases of 8mm and 308 to the line for me...Each case of 8mm weighs 55lbs.



Distance and reactive targets are a plus...



Sure....Been doing manual labor all my life.
BTW, we have always driven into and parked and unloaded our stuff at those bays all the time.



I can help you out:

tradecraft.us/Ranch/ORV/PolarisTM.jpg




BTW...just occured to me. You need a pintle mount for that mule....

Then we can run and gun!!
Link Posted: 1/27/2006 2:17:32 PM EDT
Mojo could always valet our vehicles for us...
Link Posted: 1/27/2006 3:45:13 PM EDT

Originally Posted By frisco:

Originally Posted By RenegadeX:

Originally Posted By mojo:

Originally Posted By frisco:
My only requirements are:

1) Safe environment...

2) I can back my vehicle up to the line....unless Mojo's willing to carry cases of 8mm and 308 to the line for me...Each case of 8mm weighs 55lbs.



Distance and reactive targets are a plus...



Sure....Been doing manual labor all my life.
BTW, we have always driven into and parked and unloaded our stuff at those bays all the time.



I can help you out:

tradecraft.us/Ranch/ORV/PolarisTM.jpg




BTW...just occured to me. You need a pintle mount for that mule....

Then we can run and gun!!



Oh yeah! And I know just the machinist who can do it!
Link Posted: 1/27/2006 7:17:31 PM EDT
Link Posted: 1/28/2006 9:33:05 AM EDT
Link Posted: 1/28/2006 10:48:10 AM EDT

Originally Posted By mojo:
I was thinking about your ride when frisco was concerned about carrying all his toys and ammo.



He has got more belt guns "on order" than anyone I have ever known. if they ever come in, we will need the truck to haul them. But for now, the Polaris will suffice.
Link Posted: 1/28/2006 11:09:53 AM EDT
Link Posted: 1/28/2006 11:32:34 AM EDT

Originally Posted By mojo:
It looks like frisco is another of my long-lost brothers.

BTW....Are these for M16 lower?




Just call me a first class sucker...
Link Posted: 1/28/2006 8:08:07 PM EDT
Where is the Hun farm? Dallas/Fort Worth area?


I would've made the drive last year but it was smack dab in the middle of finals...
Link Posted: 1/29/2006 5:21:31 AM EDT

Originally Posted By 1Andy2:
Where is the Hun farm? Dallas/Fort Worth area?


I would've made the drive last year but it was smack dab in the middle of finals...



3 hours northwest of DFW
Link Posted: 1/29/2006 6:46:09 PM EDT

Originally Posted By mikejohnson:

Originally Posted By 1Andy2:
Where is the Hun farm? Dallas/Fort Worth area?


I would've made the drive last year but it was smack dab in the middle of finals...



3 hours 4 hours northwest of DFW



Fixed it with a realistic answer for ya.
Link Posted: 1/29/2006 7:46:31 PM EDT

Originally Posted By FALARAK:

Originally Posted By mikejohnson:

Originally Posted By 1Andy2:
Where is the Hun farm? Dallas/Fort Worth area?


I would've made the drive last year but it was smack dab in the middle of finals...



3 hours 4 hours northwest of DFW



Fixed it with a realistic answer for ya.



Not everybody drives like TXLewis...
Link Posted: 1/30/2006 2:03:00 AM EDT
Tagged......
Link Posted: 1/30/2006 4:07:15 AM EDT
[Last Edit: 1/30/2006 4:11:35 AM EDT by mikejohnson]

Originally Posted By FALARAK:

Originally Posted By mikejohnson:

Originally Posted By 1Andy2:
Where is the Hun farm? Dallas/Fort Worth area?


I would've made the drive last year but it was smack dab in the middle of finals...



3 hours 4 hours northwest of DFW



Fixed it with a realistic answer for ya.



going the speed limit, it is exactly 3 hours from my house in McKinney, so using Decatur as a hub from DFW, if you are about 60 minutes from Decatur it will take 3 hours total to get to the farm


eta: just googled the path - it says 1:01 to Decatur and 2:30 to the farm, so maybe the speed limits are not updated on google or I go over the posted limit just a tad.... (hey, that is only prima facie evidence of speeding in TX)
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