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Posted: 10/20/2004 9:02:46 AM EST
Wholesale hunter seems to think its illegal to sell high caps to virginia and so does taurus. You guys have got to get on this before everybody gets this misguided info.
Link Posted: 10/20/2004 11:27:20 AM EST
Link Posted: 10/20/2004 11:37:58 AM EST
yea
Link Posted: 10/20/2004 1:57:43 PM EST
I saw the other thread on this topic. Any idea where the problem originated? Was it from the cancelled Wholesale Hunter order, a note on the WH or Taurus web site?
Link Posted: 10/20/2004 3:11:51 PM EST
I've squared him away on pre-ban. Ask him again.
Link Posted: 10/21/2004 12:41:50 PM EST
[Last Edit: 10/21/2004 1:20:43 PM EST by repub18]
here is WH list of restricted areas


California - 10
Hawaii - 10
Maryland - 20
Massachusetts - We cannot ship handguns or magazines to
New Jersey - 15
New York - 10
Virginia - 15
Cincinnati, Ohio - 15
Cleveland, Ohio - 20
Columbus, Ohio - 20
Toledo, Ohio - 10
Aurora, Illinois - 15
Chicago, Illinois - 12
South Bend, Indiana - 15
Wichita, Kansas - 20


exactly what law limits you guys to 15 rounds???
Link Posted: 10/21/2004 2:10:39 PM EST
Do you have a link for this info? Thanks!


Originally Posted By repub18:
here is WH list of restricted areas


California - 10
Hawaii - 10
Maryland - 20
Massachusetts - We cannot ship handguns or magazines to
New Jersey - 15
New York - 10
Virginia - 15
Cincinnati, Ohio - 15
Cleveland, Ohio - 20
Columbus, Ohio - 20
Toledo, Ohio - 10
Aurora, Illinois - 15
Chicago, Illinois - 12
South Bend, Indiana - 15
Wichita, Kansas - 20


exactly what law limits you guys to 15 rounds???

Link Posted: 10/21/2004 4:16:47 PM EST
Link Posted: 10/21/2004 4:40:55 PM EST
Thanks!
Link Posted: 10/21/2004 5:15:17 PM EST
Someone better tell all those VA gunshops with imported highcaps. I know 6 offhand that are gonna get sued.

If they dont want to sell to us we dont want to buy from them. If they got hungup on the 15 round thing they really dont want to sell to us. They could have called the VCDL or a gunshop and asked.
Link Posted: 10/21/2004 5:20:16 PM EST
they have other states messup up too, NY can have preban High Caps but not Postbans
Link Posted: 10/21/2004 5:43:35 PM EST
[Last Edit: 10/21/2004 5:50:16 PM EST by Hydguy]
I just posted a response in the link above.

I spoke with Ms. Lee Powers, the supervisor of the Firearms Transaction Center, and they were quite clear on what the law said, and there is no requirement for a 3rd form of ID when buying an AR, because of the lack of a state level AWB, which was the ONLY refrence for making 20's and 30's illegal in the first place.

I'm going to e-mail this link to VCDL, and see what they can do....

ETA, just e-mailed VCDL. Let's see what happens...
Link Posted: 10/22/2004 3:54:01 AM EST
Last night I sent them an e-mail to NRA/Legal.
They now have all the info they need.
If they still cant get it --use Natchez or someone who cares!!!
Link Posted: 10/22/2004 5:41:56 AM EST
This must have been a typo. IIRC Wholesale Hunter is the retail side of CMMG and I've bought a dozen or so 30 rounders from them. Must be a mistake.
Link Posted: 10/22/2004 6:25:41 AM EST
[Last Edit: 10/22/2004 6:25:54 AM EST by repub18]

Originally Posted By M4arc:
This must have been a typo. IIRC Wholesale Hunter is the retail side of CMMG and I've bought a dozen or so 30 rounders from them. Must be a mistake.




no, if you read through the whole ad they keep on saying they checked with the state police about this matter.
Link Posted: 10/22/2004 6:36:02 AM EST

Originally Posted By repub18:

Originally Posted By M4arc:
This must have been a typo. IIRC Wholesale Hunter is the retail side of CMMG and I've bought a dozen or so 30 rounders from them. Must be a mistake.




no, if you read through the whole ad they keep on saying they checked with the state police about this matter.



It appears that several of their sources are wrong. Doesn't matter because everyone and their brothers are selling mags now so there is no shortage of sources. Too bad for Wholesale Hunter.
Link Posted: 10/22/2004 7:36:50 AM EST
Link Posted: 10/22/2004 7:47:28 AM EST
What are hi-caps? Do you mean standard capacity magazines? As opposed to reduced capacity mags? We gotta get off this bullshit lingo, same with calling semiautomatic military rifles ASSAULT WEAPONS. It's a BS vocabulary the antis are trying to make the norm.
Link Posted: 10/22/2004 7:50:36 AM EST

Originally Posted By AdrianUSP9:
What are hi-caps? Do you mean standard capacity magazines? As opposed to reduced capacity mags? We gotta get off this bullshit lingo, same with calling semiautomatic military rifles ASSAULT WEAPONS. It's a BS vocabulary the antis are trying to make the norm.




yeah I know, its hard to shake off though
Link Posted: 10/22/2004 8:01:30 AM EST

Originally Posted By AdrianUSP9:
What are hi-caps? Do you mean standard capacity magazines? As opposed to reduced capacity mags? We gotta get off this bullshit lingo, same with calling semiautomatic military rifles ASSAULT WEAPONS. It's a BS vocabulary the antis are trying to make the norm.



AMEN brothter!
Link Posted: 10/22/2004 8:37:56 AM EST

Originally Posted By M4arc:
It appears that several of their sources are wrong. Doesn't matter because everyone and their brothers are selling mags now so there is no shortage of sources. Too bad for Wholesale Hunter.



Agree with you in part, but if they were given incorrect info by the VSP then that source needs to be corrected immediately. I'm not worried if they decide not to sell in VA just to be on the safe side, but I am worried if VSP or another gov't source is giving incorrect info.


Originally Posted By M4arc:


Originally Posted By AdrianUSP9:
What are hi-caps? Do you mean standard capacity magazines? As opposed to reduced capacity mags? We gotta get off this bullshit lingo, same with calling semiautomatic military rifles ASSAULT WEAPONS. It's a BS vocabulary the antis are trying to make the norm.




AMEN brothter!



+2
Link Posted: 10/23/2004 3:50:13 PM EST
Wouldn't the 20 round limit, IF you are carrying it on a CCW make it an Assualt Weapon, or something to that effect?

But, that still doesn't preclude them from selling.

Just something I remember.

John
Link Posted: 10/25/2004 9:46:12 AM EST

Originally Posted By Hydguy:
I just posted a response in the link above.

I spoke with Ms. Lee Powers, the supervisor of the Firearms Transaction Center, and they were quite clear on what the law said, and there is no requirement for a 3rd form of ID when buying an AR, because of the lack of a state level AWB, which was the ONLY refrence for making 20's and 30's illegal in the first place.

I'm going to e-mail this link to VCDL, and see what they can do....

ETA, just e-mailed VCDL. Let's see what happens...



Just getting through my email, I saw this in the VCDL Newsletter (from 10/22):



******************************­******************************
12. VA State Police telling some dealers that 30 round magazines
cannot be sold to citizens
*****************************************­*******************

I am not sure who in the State Police has been saying that, but they
apparently don't know that the AWB sunset. If you run into a dealer
who has been told this misinformation, have them contact Donna Tate
in the Virginia State Police's Firearms Transaction Center (Richmond)
and she will set them straight. Her phone number is: 804-674-2210

Link Posted: 10/25/2004 10:19:24 AM EST

Originally Posted By PrivateJoker:

Originally Posted By Hydguy:
I just posted a response in the link above.

I spoke with Ms. Lee Powers, the supervisor of the Firearms Transaction Center, and they were quite clear on what the law said, and there is no requirement for a 3rd form of ID when buying an AR, because of the lack of a state level AWB, which was the ONLY refrence for making 20's and 30's illegal in the first place.

I'm going to e-mail this link to VCDL, and see what they can do....

ETA, just e-mailed VCDL. Let's see what happens...



Just getting through my email, I saw this in the VCDL Newsletter (from 10/22):



******************************­******************************
12. VA State Police telling some dealers that 30 round magazines
cannot be sold to citizens
*****************************************­*******************

I am not sure who in the State Police has been saying that, but they
apparently don't know that the AWB sunset. If you run into a dealer
who has been told this misinformation, have them contact Donna Tate
in the Virginia State Police's Firearms Transaction Center (Richmond)
and she will set them straight. Her phone number is: 804-674-2210




yeah but it still doesnt matter that the AWB sunset, 30 rounders were legal before it did.
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