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6/25/2018 7:04:05 PM
Posted: 6/13/2018 5:46:25 PM EDT
Link Posted: 6/13/2018 6:22:53 PM EDT
I think we're supporting ANYONE that runs against her, correct?
Link Posted: 6/13/2018 7:20:49 PM EDT
It would be difficult to find someone running against Claire that I would not vote for....
Link Posted: 6/13/2018 7:48:24 PM EDT
I've never voted for a Democrat, so...
Link Posted: 6/13/2018 9:21:07 PM EDT
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Ok, ok, good point... I guess I'm asking, is he our preferred choice? I've not done any research on any of the other candidates running in the primary.

*ETA* I think I remember reading the primary is in August?
Link Posted: 6/13/2018 9:48:34 PM EDT
Austin Peterson is the guy that wants to legalize machine guns.....so that's my guy! Hawley is going to get it though, he's got trump, the rinos, and all the other big money behind him. Much like the governors race 2 years ago, it's not about who you like the best, it's more about who can beat the the Democrat. That was Greitens back then, and for this race, its Hawley.
Link Posted: 6/13/2018 10:29:17 PM EDT
Hawley isn’t everything I want him to be, but he’s the choice we’re going to have.

Petersen is an ideological opportunist, a political carpetbagger. He’s got a legitimate rape style comment just rattling around in the back of his head, ready to give McCaskill yet another unearned win.
Link Posted: 6/13/2018 11:23:16 PM EDT
I like Austin Petersen myself, but I would vote for Hawley if he shows he's worthy.

Of course anybody running against McCaskill is worthy of a vote.
Link Posted: 6/14/2018 11:01:43 AM EDT
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I'm pretty sure that "legitimate rape" comment came from a dyed in the wool establishment GOP guy.
Link Posted: 6/14/2018 10:27:41 PM EDT
+1. Exactly this!!
Link Posted: 6/15/2018 12:04:42 AM EDT
Link Posted: 6/15/2018 7:28:44 AM EDT
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Originally Posted By PursuitSS:
This guy threw Eric Greitens under the bus when Greitens hadn’t been convicted of ANYTHING!

I will probably vote for him because I stand the thought of McCUNTskil being re-elected.
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He didn't at first.....he was silent. Then when it looked good to throw him under the bus, he did. It was all about his donors and his chances for senator. Total politician. Sucks, but if we get another outsider the dems and rinos are just going to do this again.
Link Posted: 6/15/2018 8:38:27 AM EDT
Voting for Peterson in primary.
Then not Clair in November.
Link Posted: 6/15/2018 8:49:42 AM EDT
^this!
Link Posted: 6/15/2018 9:52:27 AM EDT
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Originally Posted By paul1911:
Voting for Peterson in primary.
Then not Clair in November.
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Bingo.....

This should have been what it was six years ago, but everybody got butt hurt with Akin and didn't vote. This tactic worked with Roy Moore too......it's straight out of the democrat play book now. They know how republicans don't stick behind their party, but their party will. I get it has to with republicans not being sheep, but dammit, gotta stick together to fight for a greater good at some point.
Link Posted: 6/15/2018 1:31:58 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By delorean:
Bingo.....

This should have been what it was six years ago, but everybody got butt hurt with Akin and didn't vote. This tactic worked with Roy Moore too......it's straight out of the democrat play book now. They know how republicans don't stick behind their party, but their party will. I get it has to with republicans not being sheep, but dammit, gotta stick together to fight for a greater good at some point.
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Originally Posted By delorean:
Originally Posted By paul1911:
Voting for Peterson in primary.
Then not Clair in November.
Bingo.....

This should have been what it was six years ago, but everybody got butt hurt with Akin and didn't vote. This tactic worked with Roy Moore too......it's straight out of the democrat play book now. They know how republicans don't stick behind their party, but their party will. I get it has to with republicans not being sheep, but dammit, gotta stick together to fight for a greater good at some point.
If you really believed that, you wouldn’t be voting for the failed libertarian.
Link Posted: 6/15/2018 1:40:19 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By PursuitSS:
This guy threw Eric Greitens under the bus when Greitens hadn’t been convicted of ANYTHING! Yet.

I will probably vote for him because I stand the thought of McCUNTskil being re-elected.
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FIFY.

The case against him for threatening his mistress was a political hit from the D’s.

But his problems with his campaign finance has legs. He’s already confessed to an ethics violation & as more comes out an eventual conviction of some sort is more likely.

Not that it’s surprising. Guys who suddenly switch parties for the sake of an election can’t be trusted and have a habit of causing problems. Let’s see if we’ve learned that lesson with the guy that even Libertarians think is weird.
Link Posted: 6/15/2018 3:37:27 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By JAD762:

The case against him for threatening his mistress was a political hit from the D’s.
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I think it was from the republicans.....once they started it, the democrats moved in for the kill. Follow the money. That newspaper owner who delivered the payments has ties to the wealthy republican donors that stood to lose the low-income housing tax credits.

PLUS, the democrats knew about this BEFORE the election, and wouldn't touch it. Why? Word is, Koster was involved with this chick too.

It was from both sides.
Link Posted: 6/15/2018 5:57:02 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By delorean:
I think it was from the republicans.....once they started it, the democrats moved in for the kill. Follow the money. That newspaper owner who delivered the payments has ties to the wealthy republican donors that stood to lose the low-income housing tax credits.

PLUS, the democrats knew about this BEFORE the election, and wouldn't touch it. Why? Word is, Koster was involved with this chick too.

It was from both sides.
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Originally Posted By delorean:
Originally Posted By JAD762:

The case against him for threatening his mistress was a political hit from the D’s.
I think it was from the republicans.....once they started it, the democrats moved in for the kill. Follow the money. That newspaper owner who delivered the payments has ties to the wealthy republican donors that stood to lose the low-income housing tax credits.

PLUS, the democrats knew about this BEFORE the election, and wouldn't touch it. Why? Word is, Koster was involved with this chick too.

It was from both sides.


Seriously, to think that Scott Faughn is a tool of some amorphous republican shadow organization is perhaps one of the dumbest, tinfoily things I’ve ever read on here, and I’ve read the Saudi purge thread.

Here’s what republicans were actually saying as this all got started.

Link Posted: 6/17/2018 9:06:48 AM EDT
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Originally Posted By SUB_MG:
It would be difficult to find someone running against Claire that I would not vote for....
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This

If Chuck Schumer moved to Missouri and ran against Claire, I might have a dilemma.
Link Posted: 6/17/2018 4:23:52 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By Bladeswitcher:
This

If Chuck Schumer moved to Missouri and ran against Claire, I might have a dilemma.
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Originally Posted By Bladeswitcher:
Originally Posted By SUB_MG:
It would be difficult to find someone running against Claire that I would not vote for....
This

If Chuck Schumer moved to Missouri and ran against Claire, I might have a dilemma.
Well he did say trump was all cattle no hat so he does have that going for him now.

But yes as I said I would vote for not Clair in the general, their is always my standby write in candidate of Alfred E Neuman if the Rs run someone completely bad.
Link Posted: 6/17/2018 4:31:45 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By paul1911:

Well he did say trump was all cattle no hat so he does have that going for him now.

But yes as I said I would vote for not Clair in the general, their is always my standby write in candidate of Alfred E Neuman if the Rs run someone completely bad.
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If Schumer said "All cattle, no hat", then he's so stupid he can't even use the phrase properly. It's "All hat, no cattle."
Link Posted: 6/17/2018 9:18:46 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By Brassaholic13:

If Schumer said "All cattle, no hat", then he's so stupid he can't even use the phrase properly. It's "All hat, no cattle."
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Yes. He's that stupid.
Link Posted: 6/18/2018 12:39:54 AM EDT


Here you go he is that stupid.
Link Posted: 6/18/2018 10:34:45 PM EDT
Yeah I'll hold my nose and vote Hawley in the general but it won't be so much a vote FOR him as much as it will be a vote against Claire.
Link Posted: 6/19/2018 9:45:01 PM EDT
I don’t think we need another Rhino, but even a Rhino is far better than Claire.

Primary vote will be for Peterson.
(Who was not thought of as weird, but rather lost out to the two former state governors ticket in the libertarian race). How many other candidates are clear spoken and regularly raffle off Ar15’s? He is definitely more pro-gun, anti-tax-welfare-bullshit warfare than anyone you can point to.
Link Posted: 6/20/2018 12:41:25 AM EDT
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Originally Posted By Dogma:
I don’t think we need another Rhino, but even a Rhino is far better than Claire.

Primary vote will be for Peterson.
(Who was not thought of as weird, but rather lost out to the two former state governors ticket in the libertarian race). How many other candidates are clear spoken and regularly raffle off Ar15’s? He is definitely more pro-gun, anti-tax-welfare-bullshit warfare than anyone you can point to.
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Agreed!
Link Posted: 6/20/2018 12:59:47 AM EDT
Link Posted: 6/20/2018 6:59:27 AM EDT
The only difference is she doesn't have to wait for Hawley to shoot himself in the foot, he already has. My guess is he will be back at a University in a few years never to be heard from again. Idiot.
Link Posted: 6/20/2018 7:04:34 AM EDT
Peterson has my vote in the primary.

Anybody but Claire in the general.
Link Posted: 6/20/2018 12:29:27 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By Mp40Gunner:
Peterson has my vote in the primary.

Anybody but Claire in the general.
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Whats so special about Peterson? Isnt he one of those weird open borders libertarians?
Link Posted: 6/20/2018 12:34:40 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By LibertyMotors:

Whats so special about Peterson? Isnt he one of those weird open borders libertarians?
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Wants to abolish the NFA and legalize machine guns.
Link Posted: 6/20/2018 12:45:18 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By LibertyMotors:

Whats so special about Peterson? Isnt he one of those weird open borders libertarians?
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He does love himself some unthinking band wagons.

Link Posted: 6/20/2018 2:02:39 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By LibertyMotors:

Whats so special about Peterson? Isnt he one of those weird open borders libertarians?
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Open borders is one of three main issues that divide libertarians. (Intellectual property, and abortion being the other two) His stated preference is the same now as it was when he ran on the libertarian ticket, and doesn’t seem weird (to me anyways).

From his website:

I believe in border security and national sovereignty, and I support cost-effective measures to further secure our border and protect American citizens. I also favor completely eliminating any and all welfare programs provided to illegal immigrants. These welfare programs, while perhaps well-intentioned, provide negative incentives and encourage people to come to this country for the wrong reasons.

The bottom line is this: if we want to solve the problem of illegal immigration, we must fix our legal immigration system. It’s currently too complicated, takes far too long, and costs too much money to play by the rules. This incentivizes bad behavior (i.e. coming here illegally) and over time leads to exactly where we are today.
https://www.austinpetersen.com/priorities
Link Posted: 6/20/2018 4:18:47 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By Dogma:

Open borders is one of three main issues that divide libertarians. (Intellectual property, and abortion being the other two) His stated preference is the same now as it was when he ran on the libertarian ticket, and doesn’t seem weird (to me anyways).

From his website:

I believe in border security and national sovereignty, and I support cost-effective measures to further secure our border and protect American citizens. I also favor completely eliminating any and all welfare programs provided to illegal immigrants. These welfare programs, while perhaps well-intentioned, provide negative incentives and encourage people to come to this country for the wrong reasons.

The bottom line is this: if we want to solve the problem of illegal immigration, we must fix our legal immigration system. It’s currently too complicated, takes far too long, and costs too much money to play by the rules. This incentivizes bad behavior (i.e. coming here illegally) and over time leads to exactly where we are today.
https://www.austinpetersen.com/priorities
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I don't have any issues with the above stated beliefs. Also am in favor of abolishing the NFA.

As for the cost of immigration... I believe that should be complex and expensive. Keeps out the riff raff. We stopped being a nation of all immigrants a long long time ago. We no longer need just anybody and everybody to come in. New immigrants need to be able to provide a value benefit to join the club. We have enough people who are unemployed, homeless, and underfed now. We do not need to contribute more to the problem from people fleeing countries they should be trying to fix.
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