Tell me about Missouri! (Page 1 of 2)
Posted: 1/22/2022 10:57:15 PM EDT
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We are looking to move. One of our possible destinations is Missouri. We are looking for a rural-ish place (lands, house, high speed internet) next to a city of 50k Ish population. We need around that for our business. Tell me about you state!!! How conservative it is? Is it staying red or is it trending blue? Are you getting flooded by liberals like some other states? Are the big cities messing up the state? How are house prices? Tell me about you internet experience! (Added) How are you gun laws? Can I hunt with my suppressed SBR PS90? Can I hunt with my NVG? Or kill pigs or something? Hahah |
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Attached File Just like everywhere else. Stay out of the blue areas. What you see there is Jackson County, MO (Most of Kansas City), Columbia and St Louis. Stay out of Springfield, traffic is horrible. I should hope Missouri will stay red. Biden is a complete fuck up, and our govenor did zero covid lock downs or mask crap. House prices are low, but then again I dont know where you are coming from. Lower then a lot of places. What on earth are you hunting with a 5.7x28? Giant squirrels? Gun laws are good. You can use NVG for coyotes and hogs. |
Her name was Ashli Babbitt.
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Originally Posted By Shootindave: https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/123862/election_JPG-2251055.JPG Just like everywhere else. Stay out of the blue areas. What you see there is Jackson County, MO (Most of Kansas City), Columbia and St Louis. Stay out of Springfield, traffic is horrible. I should hope Missouri will stay red. Biden is a complete fuck up, and our govenor did zero covid lock downs or mask crap. House prices are low, but then again I dont know where you are coming from. Lower then a lot of places. What on earth are you hunting with a 5.7x28? Giant squirrels? Gun laws are good. You can use NVG for coyotes and hogs. Thanks for the info. That was really helpful. I was just kidding about hunting with my ps90. Would love to use my NVG for hogs or something though. |
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Not only stay put of the blue areas but I recommend a decent distance away from them as well. The criminals victimize the surrounding counties as well. There are a lot of cheaper places in rural areas off the beaten path that are great to live in as long as you don't mind needing to drive a bit for shopping and other services. Missouri isn't perfect, but it's pretty damn good. Especially if you like the countryside. |
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Most people moving here seem to gravitate toward the southern half of the state especially southwest mo. In my area rural high speed internet barely exists. I think a lot of people are waiting on starlink, I'm waiting to see what my local electric coop is coming out with. |
Thank you. I just set this thread not to archive, and linked it in the tacked info thread.  Ebolinux - Thanks for starting this thread. We're in the process of rebuilding the info from similar threads, that dropped to archives a while back. |
Properties like that do come up for sale. It's not often, but if you watch you'll eventually find one.  Edit - Here's one that already sold. 28 acres with a cave; https://www.instantacres.com/parcel/er12/ |
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Originally Posted By Ebolinux: Really great info thanks! Now I just need to find a piece of property with a cave on it to turn into my man cave! Haha Just kidding. I didn’t realize how many caves where in MO You will need a cave for brewing shine and playing banjo in colder months. |
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A couple towns/small cities that I think you could like is Pleasant Hill(pop. 10K?) or Warrensburg(pop. 20K?), with the 'Burg being a bit larger with more factories and a very decent college, while PH is more on the farm type large town. PH is about 15-20 miles from Lees Summit/Independance/Blue Springs which are just ajoining eastern side cities of KC. Warrensburg is about 30 miles from the same 3 cities just mentioned and about 20-25 miles from Sedalia which is home to the State Fair every August and about 10 miles from Whiteman AFB where the B2 bomber comes out of. Lots of surrounding farming and land of each town I mentioned. Pleasant Hill is Cass County which is higher costing in taxes and permits needed for doing most anything on the property. Warrensburg is in Johnson County and more conservative with not needing permits to build barns/sheds and other needed buildings on the land, unless you're within city limits, where there's smaller towns like Centerview and Holden. All are very gun friendly and conservative like minds. I live in Johnson County. My wife and I sell products at a farmers market in Holden each year and I wear my sidearm with not a batting of the eye from customers or the police dept. Also, Missouri does have concealed carry without a permit needed, but the permit allows more than without. Firearms don't need locked up when in vehicle. There's also Clinton(pop. 12K) which is Henry County and upper tributory of Truman Lake, Henry County Conservation land where there's about 10K acres to hunt or fish on and also cheaper home/land costs due to being about 20-25 directly south of Warrensburg. It has lots of traffic due to fishing tournaments each year and is a great city for hunting/fishing/atv/camping and other outdoors activities. I hunt there many times, except past couple years. Harrisonville is a semi-large town of about 12K and about 12 miles south of Belton/Raymore(pop. 25K? for both and growing quickly with new homes/businesses), Grandview and a couple other towns just south of KC. Belton/Raymore is Cass County, and just up the road in Grandview is Jackson. I've worked in Warrensburg years ago at Enersys Power where they make batteries of all types from exit signs to submarines around the allied world. They also have a Stahl's plant(worked at their factory also, but the one in Kingsville) where they do forgings and aluminum machining for companies like Catapillar. Also worked in Harrisonville at a couple businesses before retiring. You have lots of small cities or towns to choose from. I would get with a Missouri realtor to see what they have available for the area you want to seek, then determine whether you want to commute or not for the savings in how much you want to spend for the house/land. I have lived here growing up, before going into the military and now live in my grandparents rural home, but growing up during my junior and senior summers, I traveled with my dad where we both worked in KC at a machinist shop 50 miles one way every day. |
Internet is very hit and miss in Missouri.
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Originally Posted By PlaysWithAtoms: Internet is very hit and miss in Missouri. Starlink is available but it's Starlink... EDIT - Starlink has become available in more of Missouri now, and it is awesome! Starlink is available in very limited areas. We have Excede satellite, and are anxiously awaiting Starlink. We're near the center of the state, South of Jefferson City. We live down in some creek bottoms, and to get line of sight internet like Radiowire we'd have to install/power/maintain our own tower, at least 110' tall. Our cost would be over $10,000, and they said that they'd use our tower to sell internet service to others within sight. For doing that, they might give us a discount on our monthly bill.  Before I bought the house, I contacted Centurylink, and they assured me that I'd get good internet service here. After I bought the place, they said that I'm too far from the switch, and they can't sell me service. I asked about dialup, and it's not available here. I got WildBlue satellite, which was eventually bought out by Excede. It's much better, but still sucks. |
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Originally Posted By PlaysWithAtoms: Internet is very hit and miss in Missouri . . . I recently moved from Jefferson City (state capital) to a home just outside of Holt Summit, about 10 miles away. In town, I had internet through my cable company. It sucked. Barely sufficient to stream, and I experienced lots of outages, drops, etc. Now I'm on fiber. It's better than I could have imagined. My wife works from home, online all day. We get TV over the fiber, too. Great service. I mean truly outstanding internet. The key is to buy a home that's served by a rural electric cooperative that has gotten into the fiber internet business. Not all of them have, but the ones that have made the move offer truly wonderful internet. |
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Originally Posted By Ebolinux: How conservative it is? Is it staying red or is it trending blue? Be careful what you wish for, you just might get it. |
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Originally Posted By PlaysWithAtoms: Internet is very hit and miss in Missouri.
Lots of this. Currently my only option is hughsnet and it sucks but is better than nothing. There's no cell service at my house either. Not even 1 little bity bar of connectivity. |
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Originally Posted By GUNGUY148: Lots of this. Currently my only option is hughsnet and it sucks but is better than nothing. There's no cell service at my house either. Not even 1 little bity bar of connectivity. Changes are coming. The infrastructure bill passed by Congress has a boatload of money for rural broadband. It's also something that even conservative Republican legislators in Missouri love to talk up. Last week, the governor made a big deal about rural internet in his state of the state speech. If nothing else, the COVID pandemic convinced rural America it was time to get connected. Some of the the electric co-ops have been stepping up on their own for years, building a fiber backbone to service their transmission system. Others have gladly latched onto the government titty and are milking it for all its worth. Those rural areas of the state with newly built fiber systems have fantastic internet service. I mentioned mine (Callabyte Fiber through Callaway Electric Co-op) in a previous post. I can't imagine internet service being better than what I have. That's the thing about technology . . . the LATE adopters often have the best shit. While the big cities are still struggling with hobbled together DSL and coax based cable systems, the electric co-ops are putting in brand new fiber lines with up-to-date equipment. Sucks when your co-op hasn't jumped in, but when they make the move, it's a glorious thing. All that said, the deepest hollers of the Ozarks will probably be the last in line. It's damn expensive to run line through those hills and there's not many folks on the line to make it work. As others have said, do your research and choose wisely. |
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Originally Posted By Ebolinux: Really great info thanks! Now I just need to find a piece of property with a cave on it to turn into my man cave! Haha Just kidding. I didn’t realize how many caves where in MO Jacob’s Cave is for sale: https://midwestlandgroup.com/wp-content/uploads/2021/10/Morgan223-Property-Booklet-1.pdf |
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My wife and I moved to the Stockton area a couple years ago from the Chicago suburbs. We're about 45 miles N of Springfield. We lived in Illinois all our lives, but taxes, politics and gun rights finally drove us out. We bought a newer, bigger home with a 2000sf shop building on 20 acres for far less than we sold out Illinois house for on it's 1/3 acre lot. I shoot and hunt on our property and there's good fishing right down the road. Our property taxes went from about $4500 to less than $1000. We can't even see any of the neighbors from our house, which is fine. Moving to a rural area took a little getting used to. Everything is further away. Planning shopping trips is a must. Make lists and hit all the stops while you're in town. On the other hand, traffic is nonexistent so travel is faster and less aggravating. I go weeks at a time without seeing a traffic light. Good internet is a drawback. We went from high speed cable to a DSL. I'm retired so it's not a big deal for me but my wife still works from home and occasionally slow internet speed is aggravating for her but it's not often and she's kinda gotten used to it. I am still hopeful for Starlink, but progress seems slow from what I've read. Supposedly, fiber will be coming from our electric co-op but I'm not holding my breath. I know people who have satellite internet, but that's more expensive and may not be much improvement from what I've been told. All in all, I'm very happy we made the move. I spend more time outdoors and get more exercise and fresh air than I would have back in Illinois. I can go outside and shoot on my 200 yd. range any tine I want. I can hook up the boat and launch less than a mile from the house. I wouldn't go back to Illinois for anything. |
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Forgot about the internet thing. I've had HughesNet, Wild Blue, Excede and dial up land-line internet, but I'm now bundled with Consolidated Communications for phone/tv and internet, which doesn't go into all parts of the State. I did have somewhat better satellite service with Excede though as they had newer up to date equipment when I had changed to them years back, but when the weather turned bad, it too went out. Well, it does rely on satellites and if it can't see, it can't relay with heavy cover. With Consolidated Communications(out of Texas, with office in St. Louis) they've ran hundreds/thousands of miles of fiber cable into the rural landscape of my area. Now I have great TV, fast internet, with not one interruption in service in the severest snow/ice/wind or rainstorm, going on 3-4yrs now since the company has installed the fiber cable. Saying they ran fiber cable, but CC could of ran something totally different. Whatever cable they ran, I'm totally pleased as it also works with smart tv's, but I'm not hooked up using my tv as a internet control center for what smart tv's can do now. |
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Re: comments on internet FYI: The state of missouri has huge amounts of money (from the Fed) allocated for rural high speed internet expansion that has to be spent. Contact your state reps, if you are so inclined, to see how they plan on burning through it |
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Originally Posted By Shootindave: Re: comments on internet FYI: The state of missouri has huge amounts of money (from the Fed) allocated for rural high speed internet expansion that has to be spent. Contact your state reps, if you are so inclined, to see how they plan on burning through it Reply: a form letter email stating how important internet access is to the rep while also saying absolutely nothing about actually making it happen. Of course that's not just a misery problem. |
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You can live in The Great Plains, the Ozarks Plateau, the St. Francis Mountains, the Mississippi Delta, the hills along the Missouri River between Washington to Jeff City. St. Charles County has three of those, plus a well off population to support your business. It's really a great place for families, take a look at the county parks - https://www.sccmo.org/615/Find-A-Park Overlay that on the city parks, and overlay the state parks and conservation areas, and it ts remarkable. Like to shoot? We're buried in ranges from free unsupervised Conservation Department rranges, a supervised Conservation Department range, two indoor ranges, and two very nice private ranges. Then there is Missouri wildlife; red horse suckers, deer, turkey, eagles and thousands upon thousands of migratory birds, behinders, hoop snakes, big fish, and on and on. My place will be on the market in a couple of years. Quiet, rural, four miles to the nearest gas station, eight to a major grocery. I wanted to link a place for sale in Hickory County with a neat cave, but I guess it's off the market. Cave property comes up for sale fairly often. There's a place in Henry County that I like, the only fault is vinyl siding on the house and shop. https://www.realtor.com/realestateandhomes-detail/925-NE-231st-Rd_Clinton_MO_64735_M79504-25068 Near Eminence over the Jacks Fork River. A gravel bar is visible in the distance; the river is a couple hundred feet below where I'm standing -  On the Mississippi near Foley (Foley Landing) -  Trail along the levy to Winfield Lock and Dam -  The Gasconade River in north Wright County, looking north and south -   |
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Originally Posted By Bladeswitcher: Changes are coming. The infrastructure bill passed by Congress has a boatload of money for rural broadband. It's also something that even conservative Republican legislators in Missouri love to talk up. Last week, the governor made a big deal about rural internet in his state of the state speech. If nothing else, the COVID pandemic convinced rural America it was time to get connected. Some of the the electric co-ops have been stepping up on their own for years, building a fiber backbone to service their transmission system. Others have gladly latched onto the government titty and are milking it for all its worth. Those rural areas of the state with newly built fiber systems have fantastic internet service. I mentioned mine (Callabyte Fiber through Callaway Electric Co-op) in a previous post. I can't imagine internet service being better than what I have. That's the thing about technology . . . the LATE adopters often have the best shit. While the big cities are still struggling with hobbled together DSL and coax based cable systems, the electric co-ops are putting in brand new fiber lines with up-to-date equipment. Sucks when your co-op hasn't jumped in, but when they make the move, it's a glorious thing. All that said, the deepest hollers of the Ozarks will probably be the last in line. It's damn expensive to run line through those hills and there's not many folks on the line to make it work. As others have said, do your research and choose wisely. Originally Posted By Bladeswitcher: Originally Posted By GUNGUY148: Lots of this. Currently my only option is hughsnet and it sucks but is better than nothing. There's no cell service at my house either. Not even 1 little bity bar of connectivity. Changes are coming. The infrastructure bill passed by Congress has a boatload of money for rural broadband. It's also something that even conservative Republican legislators in Missouri love to talk up. Last week, the governor made a big deal about rural internet in his state of the state speech. If nothing else, the COVID pandemic convinced rural America it was time to get connected. Some of the the electric co-ops have been stepping up on their own for years, building a fiber backbone to service their transmission system. Others have gladly latched onto the government titty and are milking it for all its worth. Those rural areas of the state with newly built fiber systems have fantastic internet service. I mentioned mine (Callabyte Fiber through Callaway Electric Co-op) in a previous post. I can't imagine internet service being better than what I have. That's the thing about technology . . . the LATE adopters often have the best shit. While the big cities are still struggling with hobbled together DSL and coax based cable systems, the electric co-ops are putting in brand new fiber lines with up-to-date equipment. Sucks when your co-op hasn't jumped in, but when they make the move, it's a glorious thing. All that said, the deepest hollers of the Ozarks will probably be the last in line. It's damn expensive to run line through those hills and there's not many folks on the line to make it work. As others have said, do your research and choose wisely. I was all pumped up about starlink but the rona chip shortage has pushed it back until the middle of this year at the soonest. Fiber would be great though, probably a long way out for me though. I live on a dead end road that is the last road in this county, the end of the road is actually in another county and that has posed its own problems. Years ago I knew a guy that owned land at the end, he was having a hard time getting power to his property. He eventually sold that land before getting electric to it. Several years ago my lady inquired about AT&T internet, they sent back an email giving the exact price it would cost us to the cent, it was over $800,000  What's really wonky is that over a decade ago I had US cellular, I could talk, text, face time, hot spot to run my lap top, etc. It worked great. They sold out to Verizon and the service is zero, AT&T is the same. |
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Originally Posted By Ebolinux: How are you gun laws? I really doubt you can find a state with better/fewer gun laws . . . unless some state is providing free guns to their citizens. |
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Originally Posted By AeroE: You can live in The Great Plains, the Ozarks Plateau, the St. Francis Mountains, the Mississippi Delta, the hills along the Missouri River between Washington to Jeff City. St. Charles County has three of those, plus a well off population to support your business. It's really a great place for families, take a look at the county parks - https://www.sccmo.org/615/Find-A-Park Overlay that on the city parks, and overlay the state parks and conservation areas, and it ts remarkable. Like to shoot? We're buried in ranges from free unsupervised Conservation Department rranges, a super used Conservation Department range, two indoor ranges, and two very nice private ranges. Then there is Missouri wildlife; red horse suckers, deer, turkey, eagles and thousands upon thousands of migratory birds, behinders, hoop snakes, big fish, and on and on. My place will be on the market in a couple of years. Quiet, rural, four miles to the nearest gas station, eight to a major grocery. I wanted to link a place for sale in Hickory County with a neat cave, but I guess it's off the market. Cave property comes up for sale fairly often. There's a place in Henry County that I like, the only fault is vinyl siding on the house and shop. https://www.realtor.com/realestateandhomes-detail/925-NE-231st-Rd_Clinton_MO_64735_M79504-25068 Near Eminence over the Jacks Fork River. A gravel bar is visible in the distance; the river is a couple hundred feet below where I'm standing - https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/348/66528.JPG On the Mississippi near Foley - https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/348/66526.JPG Trail along the levy to Winfield Lick and Dam - https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/348/66525.JPG The Gasconade River in north Wright County, looking north and south - https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/348/65692.JPG https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/348/65691.JPG The place north of Clinton is pretty nice even with the vinyl siding. Can't imagine why the shop wouldn't be metal sided from being built. Looks like an outside wood stove. I like clinton, you can get about anything you need there and you're close to truman and the upper end of lake of the ozarks. |
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Originally Posted By defender: The place north of Clinton is pretty nice even with the vinyl siding. Can't imagine why the shop wouldn't be metal sided from being built. Looks like an outside wood stove. I like clinton, you can get about anything you need there and you're close to truman and the upper end of lake of the ozarks. Originally Posted By defender: Originally Posted By AeroE: You can live in The Great Plains, the Ozarks Plateau, the St. Francis Mountains, the Mississippi Delta, the hills along the Missouri River between Washington to Jeff City. St. Charles County has three of those, plus a well off population to support your business. It's really a great place for families, take a look at the county parks - https://www.sccmo.org/615/Find-A-Park Overlay that on the city parks, and overlay the state parks and conservation areas, and it ts remarkable. Like to shoot? We're buried in ranges from free unsupervised Conservation Department rranges, a super used Conservation Department range, two indoor ranges, and two very nice private ranges. Then there is Missouri wildlife; red horse suckers, deer, turkey, eagles and thousands upon thousands of migratory birds, behinders, hoop snakes, big fish, and on and on. My place will be on the market in a couple of years. Quiet, rural, four miles to the nearest gas station, eight to a major grocery. I wanted to link a place for sale in Hickory County with a neat cave, but I guess it's off the market. Cave property comes up for sale fairly often. There's a place in Henry County that I like, the only fault is vinyl siding on the house and shop. https://www.realtor.com/realestateandhomes-detail/925-NE-231st-Rd_Clinton_MO_64735_M79504-25068 Near Eminence over the Jacks Fork River. A gravel bar is visible in the distance; the river is a couple hundred feet below where I'm standing - https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/348/66528.JPG On the Mississippi near Foley - https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/348/66526.JPG Trail along the levy to Winfield Lick and Dam - https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/348/66525.JPG The Gasconade River in north Wright County, looking north and south - https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/348/65692.JPG https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/348/65691.JPG The place north of Clinton is pretty nice even with the vinyl siding. Can't imagine why the shop wouldn't be metal sided from being built. Looks like an outside wood stove. I like clinton, you can get about anything you need there and you're close to truman and the upper end of lake of the ozarks. |
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 The southeast 1/4 of the state is what I'm most familiar with. You'll face challenges getting internet outside of towns in the circled area. It's obviously not impossible, but definitely do your research about the specific property you're looking at. |
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More information about Missouri, albeit most of the posts in the thread are bullshit. https://www.ar15.com/forums/general/Might-ve-bought-a-Meth-Lab-on-5-7-acres/5-2524300/ https://missourilife.com/ |
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Originally Posted By AeroE: We will probably land between Bolivar and Clinton in a couple of years. I don't want to be closer to KC. I've driven across Z hwy between 13 and 7 and that wouldn't be bad. Quick drive to clinton and close to truman both. Much further south and I'd rather be close to bolivar and springfield. Last summer I visited my uncle in Alton in oregon county. I hadn't been there in many years and it's unbelievably remote compared to most places. If you need anything other than groceries or auto parts you're making a winding drive to west plains. Can't believe how that place has grown! |
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Originally Posted By defender: I've driven across Z hwy between 13 and 7 and that wouldn't be bad. Quick drive to clinton and close to truman both. Much further south and I'd rather be close to bolivar and springfield. Last summer I visited my uncle in Alton in oregon county. I hadn't been there in many years and it's unbelievably remote compared to most places. If you need anything other than groceries or auto parts you're making a winding drive to west plains. Can't believe how that place has grown! Originally Posted By defender: Originally Posted By AeroE: We will probably land between Bolivar and Clinton in a couple of years. I don't want to be closer to KC. I've driven across Z hwy between 13 and 7 and that wouldn't be bad. Quick drive to clinton and close to truman both. Much further south and I'd rather be close to bolivar and springfield. Last summer I visited my uncle in Alton in oregon county. I hadn't been there in many years and it's unbelievably remote compared to most places. If you need anything other than groceries or auto parts you're making a winding drive to west plains. Can't believe how that place has grown! I prefer my original plan to move to Ozark or Douglas County, but we'll be closer to the daughters in the western counties. We like Bolivar as it's close to family where we grew up and near enough to KC. Maybe too close to Springfield. |
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Originally Posted By defender: I've driven across Z hwy between 13 and 7 and that wouldn't be bad. Quick drive to clinton and close to truman both. Much further south and I'd rather be close to bolivar and springfield. Last summer I visited my uncle in Alton in oregon county. I hadn't been there in many years and it's unbelievably remote compared to most places. If you need anything other than groceries or auto parts you're making a winding drive to west plains. Can't believe how that place has grown! Originally Posted By defender: Originally Posted By AeroE: We will probably land between Bolivar and Clinton in a couple of years. I don't want to be closer to KC. I've driven across Z hwy between 13 and 7 and that wouldn't be bad. Quick drive to clinton and close to truman both. Much further south and I'd rather be close to bolivar and springfield. Last summer I visited my uncle in Alton in oregon county. I hadn't been there in many years and it's unbelievably remote compared to most places. If you need anything other than groceries or auto parts you're making a winding drive to west plains. Can't believe how that place has grown! Guy I know that lives there says " you can't even buy pants in this town anymore " |
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Kearney, Liberty area is nice, puts you north of the river in God's country. . Good deer hunting.There are a lot of great places in MO. Joplin area is not bad, about 60k pop. St. Joseph area is around 100k but rural surrounding it. The Springfield area is nice, I like the town. Columbia is a lefty town due to the university, but otherwise not bad. South, east, or west of Jefferson City would be okay. |
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Originally Posted By GUNGUY148: Guy I know that lives there says " you can't even buy pants in this town anymore " That's totally true. It's true of a lot of places really. I go to stockton to fish and you basically have woods for groceries and dollar general for whatever else. Alton is the same way, there's a dollar general and a grocery store. If you're fine with that great, just something to consider when moving somewhere. |
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Originally Posted By defender: That's totally true. It's true of a lot of places really. I go to stockton to fish and you basically have woods for groceries and dollar general for whatever else. Alton is the same way, there's a dollar general and a grocery store. If you're fine with that great, just something to consider when moving somewhere. That's probably why all y'all country bumpkins never wear nothing but carpenter jeans, flannel work shirts and chore coats you bought at the local Feed and Ivermectin getting place . . .  |
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@Ebolinux One day a man died and arrived at the Pearly Gates. He could see a man chained to a big rock just inside Heaven. He asked St. Peter about the situation - St. Peter told him, "That feller is a hillbilly from the Ozarks. When the red horse are shoalin' and the dogwoods are bloomin', that is the only way we can keep him here." And that's the truth. |
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Can anyone address my concerns about a possible move to area of Dent - Iron - Wayne - Shannon - Reynolds counties and it's proximity to all the lead mines and smelters. Most worried about residual contamination in the soil and groundwater. One property I'm most interested in is just SE of Centerville about 10 miles, but after our camping trip through southern MO last fall, anywhere in that area is our bullseye for our next and hopefully last move.
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Originally Posted By Rick_NE: Can anyone address my concerns about a possible move to area of Dent - Iron - Wayne - Shannon - Reynolds counties and it's proximity to all the lead mines and smelters. Most worried about residual contamination in the soil and groundwater. One property I'm most interested in is just SE of Centerville about 10 miles, but after our camping trip through southern MO last fall, anywhere in that area is our bullseye for our next and hopefully last move. Thanks! It’s OK. The earthquake will probably kill you before the lead poisoning will. |
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Originally Posted By Rick_NE: Can anyone address my concerns about a possible move to area of Dent - Iron - Wayne - Shannon - Reynolds counties and it's proximity to all the lead mines and smelters. Most worried about residual contamination in the soil and groundwater. One property I'm most interested in is just SE of Centerville about 10 miles, but after our camping trip through southern MO last fall, anywhere in that area is our bullseye for our next and hopefully last move. Thanks! Nothing I'd worry about. A good job will be much harder to find, if that's important to you. |
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Originally Posted By GUNGUY148: Nothing I'd worry about. A good job will be much harder to find, if that's important to you. |
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Originally Posted By Rick_NE: Can anyone address my concerns about a possible move to area of Dent - Iron - Wayne - Shannon - Reynolds counties and it's proximity to all the lead mines and smelters. Most worried about residual contamination in the soil and groundwater. One property I'm most interested in is just SE of Centerville about 10 miles, but after our camping trip through southern MO last fall, anywhere in that area is our bullseye for our next and hopefully last move. Thanks! Shannon county is really poor. I would look more around Gainseville or Ava. Closer to a larger city, so you aren't driving an hour to get to a Walmart. |
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Originally Posted By Rick_NE: Can anyone address my concerns about a possible move to area of Dent - Iron - Wayne - Shannon - Reynolds counties and it's proximity to all the lead mines and smelters. Most worried about residual contamination in the soil and groundwater. One property I'm most interested in is just SE of Centerville about 10 miles, but after our camping trip through southern MO last fall, anywhere in that area is our bullseye for our next and hopefully last move. Thanks! You should drive through Howell, Ozark, Douglas, Taney, Christian, and Stone, and maybe through Wright County on H. 95 to the north end, before making a decision. Property nearer the lakes gets expensive, but 25 miles away makes a world of difference. I wouldn't worry about the lead mining region. |
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Originally Posted By Ebolinux: Thank you all verrry much for all this into!!! Incredible helpful. We run a computer repair shop. High speed good internet is absolutely required for us - to the point of not buying a house if it does not have it. Where do you live now? |
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Originally Posted By AeroE: You should drive through Howell, Ozark, Douglas, Taney, Christian, and Stone, and maybe through Wright County on H. 95 to the north end, before making a decision. Property nearer the lakes gets expensive, but 25 miles away makes a world of difference. I wouldn't worry about the lead mining region. We drove through those counties last fall, very beautiful but also getting to be out of my price range now as I'm trying to get at least 80 acres with a mix of pasture and woods. We're also wanting to be a bit closer to STL for easier and quicker travel to the airport since we travel to the tropics a few times a year. |
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Originally Posted By 67Firebird: That would be past the top left corner of the Judgemental map posted above. Originally Posted By 67Firebird: Originally Posted By Rick_NE: We're also wanting to be a bit closer to STL for easier and quicker travel to the airport since we travel to the tropics a few times a year. That would be past the top left corner of the Judgemental map posted above. |
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